Which would you go with? Why?

1)Ground Controls w/Koni struts(Adjustable height)

2)KYB AGX with Eibach Prokits

3)Cattman Adjustable Coilover perches w/KYB AGX(Adjustable height)

My choice is either 1) or 3), since the 1" drop of 2) isn't low enough and I like the adjustable height option. I've heard the GC ride is harsh, but I wonder how harsh compared to 3). I want a lowered stance with minimal body roll and without a back breaker ride. Is this possible?


Kev,
How's the ride and handling of your GC/Koni setup? How much drop do you roll with? How low can you go before you need camber plates? Are they easy to adjust?

 

Ride can be harsh on bad roads, but it's not bad once you get used to it. Handling is superb and cannot be topped. Go to my site and check out the suspension page to see how low my car is. You'll need camber plates for anything that gives you 2"+ drop.

They are easy to adjust... jack the car up so the wheel is off the ground, take the supplied hex key, loosen the perch, turn perch up or down, tighten hex, lower car, move to next one, lather, rinse, repeat, condition, dry...

 

What are camber plates? what do they do?

 

camber plates allow you to adjust wheel camber. When you lower the car, your wheels will have some negative camber. If you lower it a lot, you will need to correct the negative camber using these camber plates.

Ice: I am going with setup #2 for now and then maybe later on get GC's in place of the Eibachs if I feel up to it...

 

Ice: I have the Eibachs on right now, but need shocks. As of right now, like UMD-MaxSE, I am waiting on the KYBs to come out in October. If I get the $ later on, I may opt for the coilovers.

 

I'd pick the cattmans cuz it's one of the better looking ones ive seen...but i still don't have them on cuz he still hasn't fixed the rear mounting piece...

 

Kev
Thanks. I've been to your site at least 10x in the past couple weeks, but thanks for the tip anyways. Describe harsh, please. Would you choose AGXs over Konis if you could do it over? Do you know what the specs are on the Eibach Prokits? I know a shop that says they can get ANY length Eibach springs made, but I need to know what length and lbs. rating to get.

How do you know when all four are adjusted to the same height? How much was it for everything? (Koni=$520 shipped) + (GC=$400) Total = $920. Aren't GC camber plates are around $400?

 

Konis are more like $500 shipped.... i got a quote from shox.com last week and they were $518 shipped.

 

What's a good price for konis?

 

Thanks. I'll edit above.

 

Harsh... when you hit bumps on the road, the effect is multiplied by about 2-3 compared to Eibachs. If you hit bumps or dips really fast, you'll actually right out of your seat. Sort of fun... to me at least. On smooth roads, the ride quality is smooth (just like stock).

If I had to do it over again, I'm not sure which I would choose. Konis are proven to perform well on the Max and the AGX performance is still up in the air. It's nice to have external adjustability, but the Konis have this also (the rears are a bit harder to adjust). One advantage Koni has is adjustable height for the rear. From what I've seen on the Cattman gen2's, the shocks aren't height adjustable.

How do I know if all four are adjusted to the same height... you wouldn't want that because your butt will look like it's sagging. I paid $440 for Konis + $399 for GC... planning on getting the Stillen camber plates soon.

 

They're $480 on CustomMaxima.com incase you haven't ordered yet($450 + $30shipping).

 

I checked that out too.... thats a pretty good price.. So are you getting the Konis then? I am still going to wait for the KYB's that Cattman is going to make available...

 

Not Konis. It will be awhile before I get $900-$1000 saved.

I'm pretty sure I will get AGXs struts. However, I have not decided on the springs. If I decide I want adjustable heigh I will go with Cattman adjustable perches. If I don't then H&Rs or maybe custom Eibach springs like the Prokits but shorter in length.

I don't think 1-1.4" drop from the Prokits will look how I want with 18" rims and a 40-series tire.

 

sounds like you are going through the same thing I was thinking last week. I couldn't decide whether to get coilovers or just eibach springs. But, I have decided to get the pro-kit for now, and then get coilovers if I want later on. You can always sell your springs and move up to coilovers later on...

 

I have Eibach Spings with Tokico Premeium Performance Struts and my ride is great even on bad roads...i admit im not slammed but then again its all in the area you will be doing your driving. I also would like to add having Front/Rear Strut Braces with Rear Sway Bar helps the ride alot in my opinion.

 

That's a given. I plan on getting those too. Thanks.

 

But how do you know when they're properly adjusted? When do you know that camber is good for that height?