Anybody seen factory invoice information on the '02's?

 

Yep, go to www.kbb.com .

 

Thanks for the link. I was wondering if anyone has purchased a '02 Maxmia and would be willing to share the details in the purchase. We are in the market for a 02 Maxima and are looking to get the best deal.

I know it might be early but I'd thought I'd start early.

Thanks.

 

Right now there is not much discounting going on. I mean in my area (Washington DC), they are practially selling them all at MSRP or maybe $500 less than MSRP. IT is a HOT seller right now and the dealers know that they can get what they want.

You might want to hold off for a few weeks or so until it cools down and the dealers begin to want to negoiate.

Unless you in an area where they are aleary negoiating.

 

If you are seriuos about saving money, go to Canada! I have been researching buying a car from Canada for the last few days. The MSRP of a FULLY loaded 2002 6spd Maxima is $23,589
US funds. When I say fully loaded I meen everything! Leather, Bose, sunroof, everything except for the GPS system. All in all theere is A $190 Terrof tax and is it{except for the ride }. I calculated the whole thing out to the dot and after R.I. tax and $1000 under MSRP it will come out to 24,110, which is a HUGE savings. If you want to learn more just ask and will be glad to help you out.

 

wowsers. but then i have to worry about the car not gettin jacked up getting shipped here.

 

I am not worried about that because I will be getting a rental car from thrifty and I plan to drive it up to Ontario Canada{7 hour ride} and then pick up my new max and drive it back home. I will just leave the rental car there and some one will pick it up at a local thrifty in Ontario. It will definatly be a long day but I know when I wake up the next moring it will be well worth it . I whould amagine it whould be a much bigger hassle for people who live far away from Canada, I personaly live only 6 hours from the border. I have the whole thing planed out, all I have to do now is haggle with a Canadian dealers{about 10 to choose localy} and sell my cars.

 

i probally live 1000miles from there.. i dont feel like driving 2000miles round trip.

 

If you have a relative in a non-sales tax state (Oregon, for example) you can get them to buy the car for you, or you can put it in their name. That will save you a good deal of money.

 

Doesn't work like that. I live in Delaware, no sales tax, but when buying a car there is a tax on a car. We could only wish there wouldn't be any tax on a car. Also buying a ride from Canada would be a pain in the ****, you would also pay a US tax, along with the tariff when doing that, I think, it is probably like buying anything from out of the country and bringing it back across. Also, you might get your self in trouble since the main speedo numbers are in KPH, not MPH. It would take a little getting use to. Good luck.

 

Thanks for the responses. You guys have brought up some good points. I saw the recent posts on buying a car in Canada and it really intrested me. I am going to look further into it. Some things that worries me:

-> Financing the vehicle, how that would work.
-> The Spedo in km.
-> Import Taxes or Duty Rates
-> Differences in US and Canadian spec cars.
-> Willingness of US Dealers servicing a Canadian Car and acknowledge the warrenty.


Purchasing a car in Canada seems very intresting and worth looking into. I will be going to Toronto in October and will be looking more into it when I get there and possibly even bring home a car j/k

Thanks again.

 

All taxes are 100% fully refunadable. You will have to pay 7% up front but you get it all back shortly after. The speedo will of course be in KM, all you will probably have to do is put a US gauge in{takes 20 minutes}. The only thing that is not refunadable is the terrof tax, it is 2.5% , but there is a $400 exeption so the tax is under $200.

Other differences between the car's is the thermometer will be in Celcius rather the F., but that can easaly be changed.
Canadian Max's come with a engine block heater, full size spair and in the past a VLSD.

The warranty is backed by Nissan on a glogal level, so warranty work is not an issue.


As for finacing, I whould amagine it whould be the same. Just contact a Canadian dealer and work out a final price, get the VIN # and bring it to your bank nad they should give you a loan just like they normally whould. I don't see a issue here.


Heres a few links on all the info, http://www.canadasalestaxrefunds.com/ And another,
http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/imp-e...formal/car.htm
Check out www.nissancanada.com for dealer locations a such.


Matticus, a $190 terrof is hardly an issue.

 

emax95,

Thanks for the detailed reply. This option looks better and better by the minute. Does anyone know when the 02 Maxima will be fully released in Canada (maybe it already is but Nissan Canada hasn't updated)?

thanks again.

Phi

 

u keep spelling TARIFF wrong!

 

Not all Canadian cars come with block heaters... only those ones in colder communites. If you are buying from Vancouver, BC, there wont be a block heater.

Another concern that you might consider is how are you going to break in the car if you are driving it at highway speeds for up to seven hours?

 

I picked up my '02 Max SE a few weeks ago. Its black/black,
leather, Meridian, Bose, sunroof, front side airbags, traction control, Nav system.
MSRP- $32,580
Invoice- $29,200
Paid- $29,500

I think I got a pretty good deal considering the dealer still has a handful of '01s on the lot.

 

Hi Phi,

We just purchased a '02 SE, has everything 'cept for the navigation. We paid $28,100.
The thing is that we bought this through Autoplace Nissan/infiniti here in Buffalo, NY, and have previously purchased a few Infiniti's in the past, so we got a somewhat reasonable deal. (I think it's about $300 or $200 over invoice, I'd have to check).

 

I don't think that is a big concern. I believe the car needs to be driven lightly for the first 500 miles because of the clutch and brakes etc. Of course engine is a concern so I will alternate from 4,5,6 gear while remaining at the same speed. The key is to make sure the RPM's don't stand stil for a long time, by switching gears I will be able to cruise but allow the RPM's to fluctuate. BTW I personaly could care less about the engine block heater becuase my climate is not to extreme, it whould be cool to have one though .

 

Emax95: If you are buying a car from Ontario, you have to pay a 15% tax on the car at time of the sale. This tax is applied on the car price + a/c tax + gas tax + luxury car tax + freight + registration + and some more. Basically they tax you on the taxes.

I think you will only get back 7% at the dealer, not all 15%, I could be wrong though. Also how are you going to deal with the registration of the car? Will you get an Ontario license plate and then change it to a RI one once you get back?

Also have you talked to dealers about this yet?

 

I know every last detail about importing the car. Basicaly all tax's are fully refundable! The only thing not refundable is a small tarrif{2.5%} tax and a $100 AC charge.
As for registration I know all about it and it is identical to my regular registration. I recieved a complete info package from a very nice guy who imported his 01 Pathfinder & has helped 50 other people import there new nissans from Canada.

I just found out that leather is a $3000 option on Canadian SE maximas! This means the MSRP 02 loaded{except leather & GPS} costs $22,371 US. I also have contact info on a dealer in Toronto who will give me a price right around invoice so my new max will only cost me about $21,000! This is incredible! I don't need a loan anymore either .

 

kewl bud! but why don't u like leather? I luv it now!!!

 

emax,

Were you able to contact that person to see if he had any problems with you passing on the documentation that you recieved from him? I tried going to the link on edmunds townhall but the message board was way too slow.

You can email me at phitruon@yahoo.com

Thanks.

 

I love leather, I don't see why I should spend $1200 on it though. I will just get custom leather seats for about $600. That way I save $600 and get custom seats .

 

Kewl Bud ... that's actually a good idea ... which dealership r u getting it from? Is it in Toronto? If so ... we'll set up a mini-meet so we can meet in person!

 

There are quite a few dealerships I am interested in. A Toronto dealership is one of them. If I go there I will let you know. I still have to sell my cars so it won't be for a little while.

 

Be careful guys, it isn't always as easy at it looks!

I know a guy very well, a U.S. citizen, who was coming to Canada for a couple of years, the wife & kids, the whole nine yards.

He had a Benz that he tried to bring into Canada and he couldn't get a Canadian registration & license for it. I think it was something stupid like the bumpers didn't meet Canadian standards. He drove it from Arkansas to Ottawa. So he was heading towards having it modified when he just said the heck with it and drove it back home and put it in storage. He leased another car in Ottawa. On top of all this, it took him MONTHS to get straight answers from the bureaucrats on both sides of the border.

So the money deal might look great, but you KNOW government -- you think you have researched everything and talked with everyone and surprise!

By the way, I think the 15% tax is all refundable (you need forms from the federal and provincial governments).

I would NOT be so sure about the warranty being valid outside of Canada. When you buy in Canada, you buy from Nissan Canada. Until recently, there was something called the "autopact" which protected the U.S. and Canadian autoworkers (e.g. from either side dumping excess inventory into the other country). I have read lots of U.S.-based material that indicates that if I bought a car in the U.S., then the warranty would not be covered in Canada. Keep in mind too that some warranties ARE different. Partly because of the harsher weather in some parts of Canada, partly because of marketing. A good example if Hyundai -- 10 years in U.S., 5 years in Canada.

Bottom-line: if the deal appears to be too good to be true, it probably is.

 

go to www.carpoint.com and choose "new cars", Nissan Maxima..they posted 2k2 info just 2 weeks ago

 

Hi,

I bought my 2k2 max for invoice in the chicago area.

Tjz

 

What kind of car is the one in all your posts? It looks like a nissan but wtf is it? It looks really cool.

Dr.Omed HID #4.

 

jjgaspard,

I just bought a 02 SE w/sunroof in southern Va. for just about invoice. Just a few weeks before dealers were telling me at least $1000 over. I started researching, calling and found my best deal. I drove 120 miles to get the car. A good starting point would be cardirect.com which currently shows $900 over which includes the Adv. fee paid to Nissan.

GoodLuck

 

After a serious internet search and with Cars.com and others I was able to order a 2002 SE with 6 speed and LSD for invoice. I gave the dealer "internet mgr" a deposit in Aug but Nissan has yet to process the order due to availability of the LSD. I can be very patient. Maybe DEC?

 

I'm the guy that emax95 has been mentioning. I bought from Canada and am fully willing to share all the details. It's not difficult but will save you lots. Over 60 people have written me back saying they have done it too for Max's, Pathfiners, QX4's, and I30/35's. Here's what I've heard lately about prices for 2002's...
SE 6spd, cloth, heated seats $21,800
SE 6spd, leath, bose, sunroof $23,500
GLE auto, heated seats, sunroof $23,500

These are not too much over invoice, but we've been able to find some dealers willing to sell like this without hassle. Toronto and Vancouer are best.

The exchange rate just keeps getting better for the US. The paperwork for Customs is rather easy.

Yes, the warranty is valid in the US (I had some minor work done without trouble). Yes, the Max meets all US and California emmissions and safety. All the taxes you pay in Canada they refund by mail. You pay your regular state tax when you get home. You don't need to register it in Canada.

Just drop me a line if you want the info. I'm glad to help others.

-Jon
jonlofquist@aol.com

 

Here is what I paid as a Canadian in Canada:

2002 Maxima GXE price quote - Canadian dollars only - no sunroof, heated seats, cloth, reg audio

MSRP $32,900
Invoice (excluding holdbacks) $29,866
Dealer price before freight/etc = $30,900
All-in price (ie. include freight/admin/licensing/etc) = $32,200

In addition to this price, Nissan is offering a 6.8% lease rate and a $18753 36-month residual, so the monthly payment is about $600 with tax, zero down ($600 Cdn = $381 US)

Converting the vehicle price to U.S. dollars:
Exchange rate as of Oct 29 is $1 Cdn = $0.635 US (UGH!!!)
All-in price = US$20,447 for a 2002 GXE

It sounds like the prices quoted in the previous post are pretty darn good -- do they include freight/etc? Freight in Canada is a complete ripoff, if you pay $500 freight in the U.S., we'll pay $900 in Canada, which makes no sense whatsoever.

 

CanadaRocks,
Looks like you got a good price too. Yes, the prices I mentioned above include the freight. The dealers that I know about are selling not too much over invoice and also don't tack on admin fees.

But who in the US would ever think you could get a Max for just over $20K?? Sorry that your dollar is low right now. I guess the best thing we can do is have all the Americans come to Canada to buy a Max and boost your economy!

BTW, how did you find the invoice cost? I usually know what they are approximately, but not exact.

Again, those of you in the US can do this. I'm having fun helping others - it's not a business for me.

-Jon

 

I got my 02 SE for $27 under invoice. The processing fee was $369 and a $40 prep fee so I estimated I got the car for around $200 over inv. (Dealers hide profit everywhere so be sure to inquire into all fees, Also I had to travel 120 miles to get mt best deal) This was in southeast Va. The best I could do in my immediate area was around $600 to $1000 over. Cardirect.com has a price of $900 over which is to include the Adv. fee. paid to Nissan. Also watch when they quote 'over invoice'. Which invoice ? Edmund's or the Dealer's - the dealer's invoice includes the Adv. fee which on my car was $480 - I got a copy of the invoice.

GoodLuck

 

Re: your question about invoice cost.

Well, initially I paid for the invoice information through http://www.carcostcanada.com. I believe there are similar services in the U.S...like edmonds.com, carpoint.com, etc.

Once I had an initial quote from a local dealer, I also requested a quote from http://www.cars4u.com. It's a really good Canadian car site -- I probably would have bought through them if I lived in Toronto, partly because I liked the way they disclose a ton of pricing information. They sent me their quote in a spreadsheet with all of their calculations!...including markup, invoice, admin fees, etc. Their price was pretty much the same as the dealer price I got.

Now, of course we all know that "invoice" is not really the dealer's cost. At the very least, there is a 3% dealer holdback. The data that I received when I paid for the invoice information indicated that the average markup on a Maxima GXE is 5-8%.

Here are some Canadian links which some of you might find helpful when comparing/pricing cars in Canada. And yes, please do bring your big American dollars to the Great White North, eh?

auto123.com
canadiandriver.com
nissancanada.com (slow to update, but check the special promotions)
carpoint.msn.ca
autotrader.ca (good to compare regional differences in weather effects on car prices)

 

anyone knows anything about buying in Japan and Mexico and bringing over to US?

 

I think this thread should be a sticky

 

CanadaRocks,
Thanks. When I bought I already knew the invoice so I did not want to pay for more info. I can also figure it out within a few dollars anyway. The managers at the dealers in Canada that those of us from the US have been buying from will fix a price not too much above invoice. It's a bonus sale to them with little work involved. But not all Canadian dealers have the knowledge on how to sell to US customers and get the paperwork right.

I see you have about the same list as I of good web sites to check out. The buying services will not work with US people. No real need though, since these managers are so good with prices and no hassle too.

Oh, and importing from other than Canada (like Mexico or Japan).... Not a chance! They don't meet US safety or emmissions like the Canadian vehicles do. You will never get past customs. There are only RARE exceptions to this, like over 25 yrs or exotic cars for display only.

-Jon

 

As a matter of interest.....I know a guy who tried to bring his U.S.-bought Benz into Canada (he was planning to work in Canada for 2 years). He did all his homework (or so he thought), so he drove the car from Little Rock, Arkansas to Ottawa, Ontario. Once in Ontario, he had to register/license the vehicle. After several weeks of paper chase, he was told he would have to have the bumper assembly changed to meet Canadian standards. He didn't want to do that, so he put the car in storage. So Jon is right, having a real, knowledgeable person in front of you, walking through the export-import stuff is worth the time.

I wonder, however, if this will continue to be possible. Once the Maximas are manufactured in the U.S., I would bet that the trade pacts between the US and Canada kick in -- you may not be able to do this so easily in the future. Ditto for other Nissan or non-Nissan vehicles -- where and how they are manufactured or assembled may make a difference.

Check out today's US-Cdn exchange rate...the way it's going, why not buy one of each colour, to suit your mood on any given day.