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Old Sep 23, 2001 | 06:38 PM
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racing with an auto trans

I have a 02 black SE. I was wondering when I run it if there is a diference in manually shifting with the auto or should I just leave it in drive.

Old Sep 23, 2001 | 06:42 PM
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By shifting manually you can get up to redline. I don't know if the '02 redline is the same as the 00-01, but people say to shift at about 6300 (i think) and the tranny will then shift at redline. Can anyone verify the 6300 rpms, I have never tried it. Or maybe it was something like 6100.
Old Sep 23, 2001 | 06:55 PM
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1=6000, it moves so fast it needs 500 rpm to "think" about it.
2=6300
3 O/D off= 4500, then turn on O/D


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Old Sep 23, 2001 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Rob'sAE
1=6000, it moves so fast it needs 500 rpm to "think" about it.
2=6300
3 O/D off= 4500, then turn on O/D


Pedal to the metal all the way baby!
Third gear stops at 4500 if you have O/D off??? I didn't know that.
Old Sep 23, 2001 | 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE


Third gear stops at 4500 if you have O/D off??? I didn't know that.
It doesn't stop, it's the best time to hit the O/D button. Something happens inside the magical little box under your dashboard and VROOOMMMM.... acceleration and rpm's shoot up to shift point.
Old Sep 23, 2001 | 11:14 PM
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Re: racing with an auto trans

Originally posted by jderry3
I have a 02 black SE. I was wondering when I run it if there is a diference in manually shifting with the auto or should I just leave it in drive.

So I take it it is better to manually shift then.
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 05:46 AM
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either torque brake or flash the TC.... then shift manually the rest of the way..
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
either torque brake or flash the TC.... then shift manually the rest of the way..
3 questions:
When torque-braking is it possible to use the handbrake?
How hard on the transmission is it to have my beast straining to move forward but being held back by the brakes?
What does flashing the TC mean?
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by BlackAE


3 questions:
When torque-braking is it possible to use the handbrake?
How hard on the transmission is it to have my beast straining to move forward but being held back by the brakes?
What does flashing the TC mean?
1. Well, you will be spinning your front tires then.... so don't do that...

2. Torque braking puts a lot of stress and heat on the TC. Don't do it for more than a second or two.

3. Flashing the TC is better and puts less wear than brake torquing. Hold in the brake hard with your foot resting on the gas or just feathering the throttle. Push the gas pedal in hard and fast. Release the brake a split second later.
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 07:15 AM
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hmmmm...interesting

has anyone actually track tested manually shifting vs. letting the computer do the work on th 5th gens? I've done testing on the 3rd gen and letting the computer shift proves to be the best option every time. When manually shifting it takes about 300RPM or so for the tranny to actually shift...
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by Chris91SE
hmmmm...interesting

has anyone actually track tested manually shifting vs. letting the computer do the work on th 5th gens? I've done testing on the 3rd gen and letting the computer shift proves to be the best option every time. When manually shifting it takes about 300RPM or so for the tranny to actually shift...

the 5th gen makes peak hp at redline.... the tranny only allows you to go up to 6k rpm... manually shifting makes a difference for sure...
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE



the 5th gen makes peak hp at redline.... the tranny only allows you to go up to 6k rpm... manually shifting makes a difference for sure...
thanks for the clarification...
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by Chris91SE


thanks for the clarification...
no problem, fellow permanent resident
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by Chris91SE
hmmmm...interesting

has anyone actually track tested manually shifting vs. letting the computer do the work on th 5th gens? I've done testing on the 3rd gen and letting the computer shift proves to be the best option every time. When manually shifting it takes about 300RPM or so for the tranny to actually shift...
I have noticed the samething. When you shift manually, there is a lot more lag and takes the tranny even longer to shift. Why not let it do its job.. shift itself. I have tested this with a 4th gen auto. Leaving it in "D" has improved my time between .1-.2 in the 1320. I fyou ahve VB mod, dont even bother manualy shifting it b/c your not getting the full potential out of it. Just my .02 cents.
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 09:04 AM
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I have noticed the samething. When you shift manually, there is a lot more lag and takes the tranny even longer to shift. Why not let it do its job.. shift itself. I have tested this with a 4th gen auto. Leaving it in "D" has improved my time between .1-.2 in the 1320. I fyou ahve VB mod, dont even bother manualy shifting it b/c your not getting the full potential out of it. Just my .02 cents.
BINGO, oh and I agree with my other housemates too.
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 11:10 AM
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BINGO, oh and I agree with my other housemates too.
heh...well your "housemates" semi disagreed i guess it's a generation difference with the auto transmissions
Old Sep 24, 2001 | 11:11 AM
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heh...well your "housemates" semi disagreed i guess it's a generation difference with the auto transmissions
yes.... 4th gen makes peak hp before redline, so you are probably better off letting it shift on its own... 5th gen is different however....
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