Need opinion on Stillen Supercharger... DO or Dont?
Need opinion on Stillen Supercharger... DO or Dont?
I have a 2001 Anniv. Max 5 speed and Im thinking of getting the Stillen S/C. But I wanted to get some opinions on it. Is it worth the price? And does it give a lot of problems? Do you recomend this upgrade??? Thanks
At this moment I say hold off on this purchase. It looks like by next spring we may have a few more options for forced induction. Yo_its_ok has something in the works as well as My4DSC. If I had the $$$ to buy Stillens SC right now...I would wait for the spring and spend my cash prepping the Max with other mods like an intake/catback/exhaust for now.
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Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
At this moment I say hold off on this purchase. It looks like by next spring we may have a few more options for forced induction. Yo_its_ok has something in the works as well as My4DSC. If I had the $$$ to buy Stillens SC right now...I would wait for the spring and spend my cash prepping the Max with other mods like an intake/catback/exhaust for now.
At this moment I say hold off on this purchase. It looks like by next spring we may have a few more options for forced induction. Yo_its_ok has something in the works as well as My4DSC. If I had the $$$ to buy Stillens SC right now...I would wait for the spring and spend my cash prepping the Max with other mods like an intake/catback/exhaust for now.
So far only a couple of people have had decent luck with the Stillen, and I think Kev had a little he had to fix still. In addition to another s/c, Adam was working on a turbo last time I heard. So if you can wait a bit, you'll probably be a lot better off. Get your intake & exhaust work done now, and you'll be good to go once you get the s/c or turbo, not to mention get to have a little extra fun in the meantime.
There are a couple more things to consider before dropping any kind of cash on a mod like that. Do you do your own engine work? What upgrades to the fuel system will you do? What about some engine and tranny coolers? How about brakes? You are really changing the car's operating levels when you add forced induction, how will you handle the air fuel ratios? It could get costly if you took your car into a shop everytime the check engine light came on because of any little mis-hap the ECU sees, unless you know what your doing. All these things are not totally necessary, but will help your car be more trouble-free once forced induction is added. The stillen SC is not really a "unreliable" product, aside from the cheap plastic pulley, but rather it is the other components that fail or do not work right. Supercharging is a science that needs alot of research and hard work to make work right, just ask Kev.
Definitely get a y-pipe first & then an exhaust. I'm assuming you'll probably get these parts regardless if you get a SC. Intake & UDP can wait 'cuz you won't be needing them if you get a SC. Ehhhh, on second thought, intakes do make a significant difference on N/A cars & it does complement the y-pipe/exhaust combo & it's relatively inexpensive, so why not get that, too! hehe =D Who knows? Perhaps you'll be satified with the performance of your Max after the intake, y-pipe, exhaust and won't want the SC afterwards!
I agree with Brett (Confused) and Matticus on this one. Put some more miles on your car before dropping in the blower. You might also want to prep the car before force feeding it.
No major problems from my SC kit... yet, but I can't say the same for other SC owners. Make sure you do some research before plopping down the huge chunk of change.
No major problems from my SC kit... yet, but I can't say the same for other SC owners. Make sure you do some research before plopping down the huge chunk of change.
Originally posted by 2000 SE
Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".
Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".
depends on how much boost you want to run.... 2.5" exhaust should be fine unless you go to a really small pulley....
Originally posted by lilrocket
Y2KevSE--> what kind of numbers are you pullin in with your s/c? hp, torque, 1/4...what other mods do you have? btw, your engine looks tight! im lovin the wires!
Y2KevSE--> what kind of numbers are you pullin in with your s/c? hp, torque, 1/4...what other mods do you have? btw, your engine looks tight! im lovin the wires!

Don't know what I'm pulling, but an estimate would be mid to high 13's at the track (with some practice on launching). HP... probably about 270-300 at the wheels. Torque... probably about 230-250.
Check out my site to see the mods: http://maxima.cardomain.com/id/y2kevse
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".
Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".
Here are some videos (as requested by a member) to help influence your purchase:
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul08_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...ul08_start.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul10_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul08_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...ul08_start.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul10_rev.mpg
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Here are some videos (as requested by a member) to help influence your purchase:
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul08_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...ul08_start.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul10_rev.mpg
Here are some videos (as requested by a member) to help influence your purchase:
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul08_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...ul08_start.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul10_rev.mpg
thats evil
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Simple # 322 to the wheels, PowerDyne w/ 2.70" Pulley, IMPUL Tuning ECU, other misc equipment, on L10 tranny.
Simple # 322 to the wheels, PowerDyne w/ 2.70" Pulley, IMPUL Tuning ECU, other misc equipment, on L10 tranny.
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Kev, no problem, but the ECU is matched for the S/C Kit w/ Powerdyne blower, I never got into the Vortech blower research, I just went with the gamble and played around with the Powerdyne blower, so I'm not certain how it will adapt to the Vortech's characteristics.
Only time will tell, maybe I'll look for a used STILLEN Kit, and send that out to have mapped, and produce an ECU.
-Peace
Kev, no problem, but the ECU is matched for the S/C Kit w/ Powerdyne blower, I never got into the Vortech blower research, I just went with the gamble and played around with the Powerdyne blower, so I'm not certain how it will adapt to the Vortech's characteristics.
Only time will tell, maybe I'll look for a used STILLEN Kit, and send that out to have mapped, and produce an ECU.
-Peace
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
Originally posted by SFMax20SE
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
Mmm...NOS... 

Originally posted by SFMax20SE
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
Agreed.... the engine can handle it... but the drive train is toast! But I plan on doing the drive train anyways 

Originally posted by yo_its_ok
*faint*
I brushed off the opportunity to get an used '01 BMW ///M5 to build 3 project cars for my business, this better be worth it.
I don't think I wanna find another crashed or stolen recovery 4th gen.
I was lucky enough to find the the white '01 SE AE.(Canadian)
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Nitrous and Boost will work, its the drivetrain I'm worried about. Beefing up a tranny, and getting custom axles is not cheap. Either way 5spd or Auto, it will cost almost 3Gs to beef up a drivetrain to handle upwards of 400whp.
-Peace
*faint*
I brushed off the opportunity to get an used '01 BMW ///M5 to build 3 project cars for my business, this better be worth it.
I don't think I wanna find another crashed or stolen recovery 4th gen.
I was lucky enough to find the the white '01 SE AE.(Canadian)
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Nitrous and Boost will work, its the drivetrain I'm worried about. Beefing up a tranny, and getting custom axles is not cheap. Either way 5spd or Auto, it will cost almost 3Gs to beef up a drivetrain to handle upwards of 400whp.
-Peace
Oh yeah... I am planning Level10 tranny and custom shafts. What else do you recommend? Is there something better then Level10? I wanted to change the gearing in the tranny as well. We all know about the excellent gearing on these Nissan automagic trannys 

Originally posted by yo_its_ok
More than a VB, Tranny Cooler, and TC...
More than a VB, Tranny Cooler, and TC...
So Level10 is good for the auto stage 3 rebuild? Where to get the CV joints? Thanks Hogan!
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Cryo-Treated Gears in both of my 5-spds.
Full rebuild w/ Nissan Genuine Parts.
As for the Auto Stage 3 rebuild, and custom CV Joints were made for HD apps.
As for gearing, no choice, but with S/C, the powerband is broad, and torque is abundant anywhere in the rpm range, so the gearing is fine. Most noticeable starting at 4000rpm to redline where the engine pulls like a mad animal.
Cryo-Treated Gears in both of my 5-spds.
Full rebuild w/ Nissan Genuine Parts.
As for the Auto Stage 3 rebuild, and custom CV Joints were made for HD apps.
As for gearing, no choice, but with S/C, the powerband is broad, and torque is abundant anywhere in the rpm range, so the gearing is fine. Most noticeable starting at 4000rpm to redline where the engine pulls like a mad animal.




