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Old Oct 19, 2001 | 02:55 PM
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Need opinion on Stillen Supercharger... DO or Dont?

I have a 2001 Anniv. Max 5 speed and Im thinking of getting the Stillen S/C. But I wanted to get some opinions on it. Is it worth the price? And does it give a lot of problems? Do you recomend this upgrade??? Thanks
Old Oct 19, 2001 | 03:01 PM
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At this moment I say hold off on this purchase. It looks like by next spring we may have a few more options for forced induction. Yo_its_ok has something in the works as well as My4DSC. If I had the $$$ to buy Stillens SC right now...I would wait for the spring and spend my cash prepping the Max with other mods like an intake/catback/exhaust for now.
Old Oct 19, 2001 | 03:16 PM
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At this moment I say hold off on this purchase. It looks like by next spring we may have a few more options for forced induction. Yo_its_ok has something in the works as well as My4DSC. If I had the $$$ to buy Stillens SC right now...I would wait for the spring and spend my cash prepping the Max with other mods like an intake/catback/exhaust for now.
That would be my plan as well. I have an auto, so I gotta do tranny work like VB & TC, but since I already have the intake and exhaust stuff minus the R/T cat, the tranny stuff is it. My car is going to stay bone stock on the outside. So far only a couple of people have had decent luck with the Stillen, and I think Kev had a little he had to fix still. In addition to another s/c, Adam was working on a turbo last time I heard. So if you can wait a bit, you'll probably be a lot better off. Get your intake & exhaust work done now, and you'll be good to go once you get the s/c or turbo, not to mention get to have a little extra fun in the meantime.
Old Oct 19, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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It depends how you feel about your warranty? You might want to get some miles on the car before voiding it.
Old Oct 19, 2001 | 04:11 PM
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There are a couple more things to consider before dropping any kind of cash on a mod like that. Do you do your own engine work? What upgrades to the fuel system will you do? What about some engine and tranny coolers? How about brakes? You are really changing the car's operating levels when you add forced induction, how will you handle the air fuel ratios? It could get costly if you took your car into a shop everytime the check engine light came on because of any little mis-hap the ECU sees, unless you know what your doing. All these things are not totally necessary, but will help your car be more trouble-free once forced induction is added. The stillen SC is not really a "unreliable" product, aside from the cheap plastic pulley, but rather it is the other components that fail or do not work right. Supercharging is a science that needs alot of research and hard work to make work right, just ask Kev.
Old Oct 19, 2001 | 04:23 PM
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Definitely get a y-pipe first & then an exhaust. I'm assuming you'll probably get these parts regardless if you get a SC. Intake & UDP can wait 'cuz you won't be needing them if you get a SC. Ehhhh, on second thought, intakes do make a significant difference on N/A cars & it does complement the y-pipe/exhaust combo & it's relatively inexpensive, so why not get that, too! hehe =D Who knows? Perhaps you'll be satified with the performance of your Max after the intake, y-pipe, exhaust and won't want the SC afterwards!
Old Oct 19, 2001 | 11:42 PM
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I agree with Brett (Confused) and Matticus on this one. Put some more miles on your car before dropping in the blower. You might also want to prep the car before force feeding it.

No major problems from my SC kit... yet, but I can't say the same for other SC owners. Make sure you do some research before plopping down the huge chunk of change.
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 06:16 AM
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do the exhaust mods now and wait until next spring to see what happens with the kits in development.... you will have more choices by the hopefully....
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 07:18 AM
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Actually, if you have to ask then it's not for you.
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 07:38 AM
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Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by 2000 SE
Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".

depends on how much boost you want to run.... 2.5" exhaust should be fine unless you go to a really small pulley....
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 10:27 AM
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depends on how much boost you want to run.... 2.5" exhaust should be fine unless you go to a really small pulley....
2.5" should work fine.
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 11:48 AM
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2.5" should work fine.

not for jOO tho..
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 11:53 AM
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Y2KevSE--> what kind of numbers are you pullin in with your s/c? hp, torque, 1/4...what other mods do you have? btw, your engine looks tight! im lovin the wires!
Old Oct 20, 2001 | 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE



not for jOO tho..
Yeah yeah yeah...

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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by lilrocket
Y2KevSE--> what kind of numbers are you pullin in with your s/c? hp, torque, 1/4...what other mods do you have? btw, your engine looks tight! im lovin the wires!
Thanks for the compliment.

Don't know what I'm pulling, but an estimate would be mid to high 13's at the track (with some practice on launching). HP... probably about 270-300 at the wheels. Torque... probably about 230-250.

Check out my site to see the mods: http://maxima.cardomain.com/id/y2kevse
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 09:27 AM
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Hey guys, if he intends on getting the S/C, then would you recommend that he gets a 3" Y-Pipe? I thought some of you were saying that you could benefit from 3" over the 21/2".
3" Ypipe actually produced less power than the 2.5" pipe. They were tested a while back on a SC car back to back. The 3" is more turblent, and caused less hp.
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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Here are some videos (as requested by a member) to help influence your purchase:

http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul08_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...ul08_start.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul10_rev.mpg
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Here are some videos (as requested by a member) to help influence your purchase:

http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul08_rev.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...ul08_start.mpg
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...1Jul10_rev.mpg

thats evil
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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Hogan where ya been bro?
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


I say wait til next year...

Things got interesting w/ 2.70" pulley, and IMPUL A33 ECU.
2.7" ?
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE



thats evil
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Simple # 322 to the wheels, PowerDyne w/ 2.70" Pulley, IMPUL Tuning ECU, other misc equipment, on L10 tranny.
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Simple # 322 to the wheels, PowerDyne w/ 2.70" Pulley, IMPUL Tuning ECU, other misc equipment, on L10 tranny.
That sounds about right for the pulley size you're using. Does the ECU allow you to retard the timing? Hehehehe retard.... hehehehe
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Nice! Good luck!
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 08:09 AM
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BTW, I'll be monitoring your ECU project.
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Kev, no problem, but the ECU is matched for the S/C Kit w/ Powerdyne blower, I never got into the Vortech blower research, I just went with the gamble and played around with the Powerdyne blower, so I'm not certain how it will adapt to the Vortech's characteristics.
Only time will tell, maybe I'll look for a used STILLEN Kit, and send that out to have mapped, and produce an ECU.

-Peace
It might be similiar enough to use. Carry on with the project
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 12:20 PM
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I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
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Originally posted by SFMax20SE
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
NOS + SC?
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 12:31 PM
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NOS + SC?
= BOOM!
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Mmm...NOS...

Originally posted by SFMax20SE
I am also waiting anxiously for yo_its_ok's s/c kit. Keep up the great work! Haven't heard great things about the Stillen kit... and support from those guys are a joke... no offense to those that have the Stillen kit, but you know what I am talking about. In the mean while.... NOS anyone?
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OK... fix your leaning out problem first...
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i need boost
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i need boost
But I think I need 5spd first...
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 12:55 PM
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This is the plan
How about you Kev???

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


NOS + SC?
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
i need boost
yes
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 02:15 PM
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Agreed.... the engine can handle it... but the drive train is toast! But I plan on doing the drive train anyways

Originally posted by yo_its_ok


*faint*

I brushed off the opportunity to get an used '01 BMW ///M5 to build 3 project cars for my business, this better be worth it.
I don't think I wanna find another crashed or stolen recovery 4th gen.
I was lucky enough to find the the white '01 SE AE.(Canadian)
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Nitrous and Boost will work, its the drivetrain I'm worried about. Beefing up a tranny, and getting custom axles is not cheap. Either way 5spd or Auto, it will cost almost 3Gs to beef up a drivetrain to handle upwards of 400whp.

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Oh yeah... I am planning Level10 tranny and custom shafts. What else do you recommend? Is there something better then Level10? I wanted to change the gearing in the tranny as well. We all know about the excellent gearing on these Nissan automagic trannys

Originally posted by yo_its_ok


More than a VB, Tranny Cooler, and TC...
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So Level10 is good for the auto stage 3 rebuild? Where to get the CV joints? Thanks Hogan!

Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Cryo-Treated Gears in both of my 5-spds.
Full rebuild w/ Nissan Genuine Parts.
As for the Auto Stage 3 rebuild, and custom CV Joints were made for HD apps.
As for gearing, no choice, but with S/C, the powerband is broad, and torque is abundant anywhere in the rpm range, so the gearing is fine. Most noticeable starting at 4000rpm to redline where the engine pulls like a mad animal.



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