you notice a big differance on a se with rearswaybar and front strut tower brace???????thinking of adding these....also putting on i30t wheels from a 2k1 ...what do you think? will i notice a big differance in handleing????

 

big difference from the rsb on turns. the fstb, i felt nothing, but i had put that on last.. after the rsb, tokicos, and eibach pro kits.

kafene.

 

big difference in handling deffinatly a must for the mods list!

 

Sway bars and Strut tower bars are a necessity for any car concerned about side-2-side performance...
I plan on adding these soon too!!!

 

these are two of the best mods you can do... you will feel them instantly...

 

I have both!!! They are great mods

 

did anyone had his alignment screwed up after installing FSTB/RSB?

 

no. They will not affect alignment.

 

running over a curb at 20mph will mess up your alighnment

 

With RSB finally installed, all i look for when i drive is nice turns. But with repeated complications with Addco RSB, i'd advice to get a Stillen one.
Peace

 

I noticed a difference when I inistalled my FSTB first. But when I added the RSB, it was like night and day. Handling was greatly improve as well as cornering. Less body roll and flatter in the turns. One of the best bang for the buck mods. Great combo.

 

To date, I've only added the FSTB; will eventually add RSB, particularly after the difference the FSTB has made. Much tighter all around...I feel it most in the steering response and it is definitely more rigid. It is a "must do" mod for all Max's...a shame this feature is not standard. I opted for the less expensive Courtesy FSTB from Courtesy Nissan via courtesyparts.com. Not only does it work, it looks cool under the hood!

srm

 

I got a Courtesy FSTB and car hadles noticeably better.
I think Don sells bars too: http://www.mobiletek.net/stb.html haven't heard anything about how they fit/install ...nice price though

Max

 

im lowered, fstb, rsb.

turning at high speeds, so much fun, just make sure no1 is crossing the street

and drifting

 

yes it will.... it may also break other things

 

Ditto.

 

With both an RSB and FSTB there's a major improvement in turn-in handling. High-speed lane changes are so sweet when you do 'em real quick-like! Sweeping turns at high speed (free-way interchanges) are also a dream... just want to keep pushing that accelerator down all the way through the turn.

I have mine on a GXE... 17" (18"???) wheels and better tires would be even nicer as I know the tires are limiting things now.

BuddyWh

 

add some springs to that list and you will like it even better

 

What problems are you experiencing with the Addco RSB? I'm was planning on getting the Addco vs. Stillen...

 

the stillen bars seem tougher and better made to me...

The addco fstb is a tube while the stillen is solid. If you get a ding in the tube, it will eventually break or become dented...

The stillen uses brackets to clamp on the frame and the addco uses bushings to attach the bar to the car at various pts. Again, the stillen seemed a lot more solid.

You will notice an improved ride for sure. The best way to describe it is the bars keep the car's inside (to the turn) down.

I was a newbie once and I got the mod-bug, but I only went as far as the bars...I'm content with what I have.

 

Just installed the Courtesy FSTB this weekend. WOW!!! What a difference. Car feels more "planted" on the highway with little or no drift. I had thought the drift was just due to the lousy stock 17" rubber that came with the car. Car feels more solid all around. Get this mod!!!

 

I just put on the FSTB this past weekend and noticed an immediate difference. I'm ordering the RSB today (I will go with Stillen over Addco based on the .org advice).

 

The Addco rear sway bar is solid, heavy, steel, it is not hollow. It works very well... and, not commonly known, is adjustable.

Don't think Addco makes a FSTB. Courtesy sells one, though, that is polished heavy aluminum tubing, but that doesn't seem to affect it's performance. It is quite strong, would be hard to damage.

I definitely agree the Stillen units (both FSTB and RSB) are better looking.

 

I still don't see how the Addco RSB is adjustable...please tell me how and what improvements can you get from adjusting it.

 

The Addco RSb is adjustable by moving the side bushings with brackets either to the end or to the back.
Not mentioning that a Addco bolt broke on me being to small, it says to position the 2 middle bushings as close to the bends, but when i did it was hitting the suspension arm on the passanger side, so i had to move that bushing 3-4 inches away from the corner.
but it does work, and i do feel the difference, and i love it.
peace

 

my bad, I was referring to the Courtesy fstb...

 

Slide the two inner bushing brackets towards the bends and the two outer bushings towards the ends of the bar and you get stiffer control action with more neutral (almost oversteer) handling. Slide the outer bushings in and the inner busings towards the center and the understeer returns with more roll.

Also, if the inner bushings are slid too far out towards the bends, the right bushing can interfere with the lateral link and "clunk" when you hit a bump... have to be careful. I have read of a guy who modified the bracket by grinding off some excess to clear the link.

Installing is not always a snap, though. Many of us have had problems sliding the u-bolt over the transverse link arms. Some have damaged the threads trying to force it. If you do, you could break the bolt when tightening down the nut over the buggered-up threads. I opened the bend of mine in a vise which made it easier to install.

BuddyWh

 

Good place to buy.. and good cost?

I know alot of you have spent alot more than you probably should have.. some of you bought the stillen ones.. and i hate to say I think its all for just the name...
but i am looking at getting a rsb and fstb.. but want to find ones out there.. that are good with a resonable price tag...
this way i don't get ripped off.. and im not paying for a name..

websites.. and stuff?
prices.. to NOT exceed?


Thanks ahead of time

 

then you want non stillen parts. courtesy fstb-90 bucks + shipping, addco rsb-dunno how much this costs now. i have this set up and it work great. there all the same. just the name.

 

All the past posting on this site suggests that the Courtesy FSTB and Stillen FSTB have no functional difference, however the Courtesy is about $150 less in cost and can be ordered from http://www.courtesyparts.com

The RSB story is different. The Addco has had some negative reviews. Based on past posting, I have decided to go with the Stillen despite the higher cost and have ordered it from http://www.avalonracing.net as they offer a good break off of the Stillen MSRP.

 

I can't wait to get my FSTB installed. Placing my order today.

 

Can't comment on the addco bar but the Stillen RSB is NOT solid, it's a hollow tube. But that doesn't matter, it's effect on the handling is splendid.

 

theres nothing wrong with the addco rsb. you just have to KNOW how to install it CORRECTLY.

 

exactly, the FSTB is solid while the RSB is a tube...

 

I just installed my FSTB and it makes a HUGE difference. The car is more responsive in fast turns.

 

Well yeah, there is a big PLUS in handling. AS for the wheels. i wanted to do that same thing... but someone told thats "ghetto"
Go with the Courtesy FSTB and the Stillen RSB, unless yo_it_oks models are out soon enough.

Roger

 

I'm running courtesy/addco too. I didn't need the show quality of the stillen fstb and I didn't need the price of the stillen RSB.

 

exactly what i think and have.