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Old 11-06-2001, 07:43 AM
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new M5

No, I am not going to start out this thread by saying I smoked a new M5. But I bet that is what some of your thought when you read my subject.

So almost every day I head to work, I see this guy in his late 50's driving a brand new M5...ice blue in color (why would anyone pick that color for such an amazing car?). Today, we were on a wide open stretch of road with a decent speed limit and I was hoping to get to a red light next to him. We actually got 3 green lights in row. That never happens to me...ever.

I tried to egg him on so he would nail it, but he wouldn't. I am not hinting for a second that the Max could keep up...but it would be fun trying. Why is that once you can afford to buy such an amazing car, you no longer have any interest in driving it as it was intended? I love the M5 and hope to own one someday (as I am sure most of us do).

I bet if I still had my Supra TT and was next to him, he would have played...

Maybe I will get him to demonstrate that 400hp monster to me someday in the future. If so, I will let you know.
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kind of like when we were all in my friends 1.8T Jetta and saw a brand new 6speed firebird ws6 and we revved it for fun and took off only to see the guy lay rubber when he downshifted and hear that beautiful gas guzzler scream buy (I want one so bad just for the sound and straight line ability for 31K!). It was nice to see someone drive one hard and humble my friend in his chipped German automobile. We were down from the get go, 150hp, 200 lb/ft torgue, 1 gear in tranny, +2 passengers, but still fun. Hopefully that old man will open her up on you someday just so you can see how nice it would be to own one.
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There's a guy at my work with a manual 540 and radar detector. Occasionally I end up behind him in traffic and I can guarantee you that he isn't afraid to use his car.
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My brother also has a 540i and drives it like a nut. The car is fast. The Max is not match for it. But the 540i is not even in the same league as the M5. That is a serious enthusiast car! You can tell it means business by the 4 exhaust tips and the very wide, low profile 18" tires.
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I would have a seriously hard time believing that any Maxima could run with a M5. Being FWD and shy by about 150hp, it would be really unlikely. Everything I have read said that the new M5 consistantly runs 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. That is Vette/M3/993 territory.
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Originally posted by carguyrob
I would have a seriously hard time believing that any Maxima could run with a M5. Being FWD and shy by about 150hp, it would be really unlikely. Everything I have read said that the new M5 consistantly runs 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. That is Vette/M3/993 territory.
OH CRAP. Take it easy on the newbie, Yo_its_ok! He doesn't know any better! Please don't tear him a new one.

Carguyrob: Certain individuals have been working on custom force induction setups for the Maxima that will help it beat your beloved M5 (that's the rumor anyways).
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OK, sounds interesting... I still would be amazed how you could get enough traction out of a FWD car to pull a 13.0 second 1/4 mile.
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I am not embarrassed...thank you very much. I may be a "newbie" to this site, but I am definately not green when it comes to cars. There is no reason at all to berate or belittle others just because they don't know what you are driving.

Yes, I have heard of slicks. Yes, I have driven on them. I have actually been to Skip Barber Racing School and did very well. You cannot race someone at a stoplight with slicks because they are not street legal. The vast majority of the Civics you are talking about are also not street legal.

My original post was just a nice comment about meeting up with a M5 on the STREET...not the strip. And the performance numbers I was referring to were with stock tires on blacktop.

If you ever plan to market this amazing technology, you are going to have to work on your people skills. A little kindness goes a long way!
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I asked him to take it easy on you! Dang sailors.
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Thanks Tanmann9.
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this reminds me...

just 200 miles into the 2k2 i was driving in a rather clear stretch of highway when all of a sudden from behind me was this Black M5 (as i later found out when it just zoomed past by me). It was probably doing upwards of 100mph already given i was doing 80 and he seemed to zoom by as if i was at a standstill.

Here's the kicker, just a couple of seconds after he zoomed by, on my right zoomed one of those racing bikes.

THEY WERE RACING!

I was like, "crazy biker".

hehehehe

I would have loved to join in, but with 200miles on the car and being it was a public highway it just didn't feel responsible.
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After reading this thread (especially Yo_its_ok's descriptions of his custom killers) a (probably irrelevant) question occurs to me...
At what point in the modification process does a Maxima (or any other car) cease to be a Maxima? Is it still a Maxima simply because the shell somewhat resembles the original car? Can you still brag that "My Maxima kicked *insert name of super car here* butt." if the engine, drivetrain, suspension etc. has been so modded and/or replaced as to bear little or no resemblance to the original car? I realize I'm splitting hairs to the extreme here, but still...
As much as I'd like to dream that an "actual" Maxima could blow-off an M5, it's obvious that, to do so, one would have to modify the thing to the point where you're running something closer to a purpose-built racer than a bona-fide Maxima.
But, I suppose, this has been the case ever since the first two cars met up at the first stop light, right?

Still...I'd love to see that TurboMax run!
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Looks bone stock w/ cut out bumper to house a custom sized intercooler. Chasis has been beefed up to handle the stress expected, a full rollcage is being built now since it will run 11s w/o a question. Purpose built, for those that have "conventional" thinking. The advent of technology and tuning potential behind basic principles of auto mechanics has created these monsters.
The motor displaces the same as before, there is a HKS Turbo by Garrett Turbos w/ ceramic bearings, and an ECU tuned to pull everything together as a system, ignition has been upgraded to a prototype unit, street-a-bility is perfectly fine, there is lag, but once the car opens up past 3500-4000 rpm, the car transforms into a velocity monster, as for suspension, full coilovers, full polyurethane bushing, delrin bushing cross referenced w/ NISMO's application chart to dimensions of factory units, and even a halon fire exinguishing system underhood as well as around the fuel cell in the trunk. Chasis bracing consists of overtower braces front and rear, lower tie brace up front, and as mentioned before, a full rollcage to tie it together. Still retains factory dash w/ original gauges, original center console, factory carpeting, carbon fiber reinforced plastic(cfrp)seats by SPARCO, SABELT 5 point harnesses, rear seat was ditched, and is home to the halon fire extinguishing system, as well as battery box.
No tube chasis crap or anything to mistake that its not a Maxima.
As for my S/C'd one, retains full interior of any 2K SE~! and will run high 12s low 13s on street tires w/ mid 12s on slicks.

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I'm actually surprised to hear the bike was 2 sec back from the M5. My background is sportbikes on street and race tracks (roadracing). There is very little out there that could touch me 0-100 km/h on my ZX-6 Kawi. I was easily running mid 3's. On my new 2001 GSX-R 600 FI low 3's is more like it. The great thing is that it only took a front sprocket (one tooth down) of about $30 to achieve this. 1/4 M times are in the high 10's too, with a top speed of about 150 mph . Not bad for a little 600cc with a weight of around 400 lbs and 100 rwhp. I have to say I'm going to miss my bikes (if for finacial reason I have to sell them next spring) but I'm really looking forward to my new 6spd HLS Max, which will hopefully be arriving before the new year.

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Originally posted by soundmike
this reminds me...

just 200 miles into the 2k2 i was driving in a rather clear stretch of highway when all of a sudden from behind me was this Black M5 (as i later found out when it just zoomed past by me). It was probably doing upwards of 100mph already given i was doing 80 and he seemed to zoom by as if i was at a standstill.

Here's the kicker, just a couple of seconds after he zoomed by, on my right zoomed one of those racing bikes.

THEY WERE RACING!

I was like, "crazy biker".

hehehehe

I would have loved to join in, but with 200miles on the car and being it was a public highway it just didn't feel responsible.
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Re: new M5

Originally posted by carguyrob

I bet if I still had my Supra TT and was next to him, he would have played...

What you had SupraTT? What the heck are you doing with a Maxima?!
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I actually had a motified '95 Supra TT (6 speed) and my current Maxima. My Maxima was my daily driver and my Supra was my fun weekend and nice day car. I only sold the Supra because I had it over 3 years and realized I could sell it for what I paid for it. To add to that, I managed to put 12K miles on it and did virtually nothing but oil changes to it. In the end, it was the cheapest car I have ever owned! I figured that would all end if one of the turbos went or some other major expense came up.

As for racing street bikes, I had that opportunity to do that a few times in my Supra. Those bikes were the only thing that could touch the Supra. But if I caught them off guard on the expressway or in a race, they had a really tough time catching up. I raced many new Vettes, Porsches, Cobras, SS's, M3's and other Supras...but never lost a race to a car. In that car...everyone wants to race you...even the kid in the Escort GT.

There is nothing like driving down the expressway with the targa roof off on a nice summer evening at 75mph and having a crotch-rocket come up next to you egging you on to race. Just put it in 3rd gear and stomp on the gas! Turbos are at full boost with the greatest engine and turbo sound...being pressed into the seat harder than an rollercoaster could ever do. So cool.

Thanks for reminding me...now I miss my Supra again.
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Originally posted by carguyrob
Thanks for reminding me...now I miss my Supra again.
I miss your Supra too... and I didn't even own it.
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LoL it seemed fairly "stock" try being one w/ 600+hp not even BPU++ cars could touch it...actually read it about...

www.teamkyogo.com

My old team...moved on tho since no one meets up...
Where be da Supra?
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok
http://www.geocities.com/mspeed65/bigboost.htm

Sorry...you had to enter the site and all... and look around ...here is the direct link to his page...
1.5 bar
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Did I mention 1.5 bar = ?
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Dark Matter can run 1.4 bar on CAM2 Race Fuel
Turn the ****. More boost! More boost! More boost!
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No more turn the ****...hit it once with the knee while shifting...Apexi AVC R
OK then... press the up arrow.
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*** Will ***** for boost ***
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Don't worry, you'll be one in the spring
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UMD_MaxSE is there something you forgot to say to us...."you'll be one in the spring"...hehe
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Dark Matter can run 1.4 bar on CAM2 Race Fuel
Could you explain what 1.4 bar boost means?

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Could you explain what 1.4 bar boost means?

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bar is a measurement unit of pressure.... just like psi...
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Ask any Maxima owner who boosts, it doesn't matter if you boost 6psi or up to 12Psi...boost is boost, and its intoxicating...once you go boost, you never go back, only for more...

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Looks bone stock w/ cut out bumper to house a custom sized intercooler. Chasis has been beefed up to handle the stress expected, a full rollcage is being built now since it will run 11s w/o a question. Purpose built, for those that have "conventional" thinking. The advent of technology and tuning potential behind basic principles of auto mechanics has created these monsters.
The motor displaces the same as before, there is a HKS Turbo by Garrett Turbos w/ ceramic bearings, and an ECU tuned to pull everything together as a system, ignition has been upgraded to a prototype unit, street-a-bility is perfectly fine, there is lag, but once the car opens up past 3500-4000 rpm, the car transforms into a velocity monster, as for suspension, full coilovers, full polyurethane bushing, delrin bushing cross referenced w/ NISMO's application chart to dimensions of factory units, and even a halon fire exinguishing system underhood as well as around the fuel cell in the trunk. Chasis bracing consists of overtower braces front and rear, lower tie brace up front, and as mentioned before, a full rollcage to tie it together. Still retains factory dash w/ original gauges, original center console, factory carpeting, carbon fiber reinforced plastic(cfrp)seats by SPARCO, SABELT 5 point harnesses, rear seat was ditched, and is home to the halon fire extinguishing system, as well as battery box.
No tube chasis crap or anything to mistake that its not a Maxima.
As for my S/C'd one, retains full interior of any 2K SE~! and will run high 12s low 13s on street tires w/ mid 12s on slicks.

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With all due respect.... It is my opinion that this car no longer qualifies as a Maxima. I have come over from a different camp with my recent purchase of a '02 Max and I have seen this done to Mustangs MANY times.... Sure, guys get there street-driven Mustangs in the 10's or even high 9's but they are hardly a memory of what the Mustang originally was... A fun-to-drive, air conditioned, CD playing, smog test passing, Big Gulp cup holding, transport module that will run a high 13 or low 14 second quarter mile on the way home from the grocery store. Your Max's seem to be quite awsome.... but are they really still Maximas?

Just an opinion.
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about how much money you spend modifying those cars...damn..turbos,supercharges,collivers= $$$
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wasn't all that bad... 3 Maxima cost me around $45G's altogether... like I said ... I gave up a lightly hit 2001 ///M5 w/ some 8K mi on it for the 96, 98 and 2K. Parts and stuff most are protoypes and one offs, hand built and assmebled by myself. Tuning and ECU provided by IMPUL Tuning in Japan w/ the help of Tomei. I just had to really cover air freight, water freight, and some labor costs to IMPUL and Tomei. Beyond that, the cars were assembled w/o much fuss.
Lots of "contributions" by other companies since they were our original designs or concepts.

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Hey Hogan,

Would the ECU work in a regular 2K or 2K1 and what kinda gains would it provide. I'm assuming it would also remove the speed limiter. I'm thinking, if it works maybe, we could purchse these through you.
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wasn't all that bad... 3 Maxima cost me around $45G's altogether... like I said ... I gave up a lightly hit 2001 ///M5 w/ some 8K mi on it for the 96, 98 and 2K. Parts and stuff most are protoypes and one offs, hand built and assmebled by myself. Tuning and ECU provided by IMPUL Tuning in Japan w/ the help of Tomei. I just had to really cover air freight, water freight, and some labor costs to IMPUL and Tomei. Beyond that, the cars were assembled w/o much fuss.
Lots of "contributions" by other companies since they were our original designs or concepts.

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man all this talk about these maximas gets me excited!!!

but seriously yo its ok where did you learn to do all this? I mean I know the very basics but thats it..Im only 23 and havent started any type of career or anyting..would you recomend that I take a mechanic course at a vo-tech and get ase certified? I LOVE cars and racing but I dont wanna get ase certified and end up workin on beaters on a car lot somewhere! is there any thing you would suggest to get into this field?? thanks for your help!!!
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And in the end it's still not a BMW.
You save your money and mod your car(s) and whoop on cars that are more expensive.
But guess what? Different strokes, for different folks. Though the guy has spent more on his stock BMW, he could have easily bought a cheaper car and modded it...but he didn't. Did you ever think there was a reason?
So what ahppens if you mod a BMW?
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok


Already built 3 monsters.

E34 525 w/ M50tu german spec motor w/ german 6 spd, supercharger by Vortech V2S..total cost: $32,400
Best Time: 12.42 @ 110 mph

E30 M3 w/ M50 3.0~>3.4 stroker M3 motor w/ custom Garrett Turbo w/ Spearco intercooler, Dinan Stage 2 mods.
Best Time: 11.48 @ 121 mph

E36 325i w/ M50tu german spec motor(3.4L stroker) Dinan stage 2 S/C Kit w/ FMI, dual stage NX N20 system.
Best Time: 11.89 @ 98 mph (broken driveshaft)

4th in progress
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LOL. I sure wish you were on the West Coast, so we could be partners once I open my shop. I'll be in Michigan for 10-15 yrs. before that, so maybe I'll like it enough over there to stay. Otherwise, I'm going to Cali.

Question? How do you stroke a 4.4L to a 5.5L? You meant 5L or bore/stroke/etc. right?
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Re: new M5

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No, I am not going to start out this thread by saying I smoked a new M5. But I bet that is what some of your thought when you read my subject.

So almost every day I head to work, I see this guy in his late 50's driving a brand new M5...ice blue in color (why would anyone pick that color for such an amazing car?). Today, we were on a wide open stretch of road with a decent speed limit and I was hoping to get to a red light next to him. We actually got 3 green lights in row. That never happens to me...ever.

I tried to egg him on so he would nail it, but he wouldn't. I am not hinting for a second that the Max could keep up...but it would be fun trying. Why is that once you can afford to buy such an amazing car, you no longer have any interest in driving it as it was intended? I love the M5 and hope to own one someday (as I am sure most of us do).

I bet if I still had my Supra TT and was next to him, he would have played...

Maybe I will get him to demonstrate that 400hp monster to me someday in the future. If so, I will let you know.

cause.he.knew..hecould.have..easily..burn.u.
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