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Klutch 02-02-2009 10:19 PM

6th gen brakes on a 5.5 HOW TO?
 
Is there a definitive thread anywhere on upgrading to 6th gen brakes on a 5.5" I'm sure there is a 1000 threads about it but am looking for the survival guide if you will.

CustomLowz 02-03-2009 06:39 AM

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...-straight.html

n3985 02-03-2009 06:55 AM

Here is your abbreviated how to:

1. Remove old calipers, rotors, and line from caliper
2. Bolt on new caliper, rotors, and install line to caliper
3. Bleed brakes
4. Done

:hide:

Klutch 02-03-2009 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by n3985 (Post 6850424)
Here is your abbreviated how to:

1. Remove old calipers, rotors, and line from caliper
2. Bolt on new caliper, rotors, and install line to caliper
3. Bleed brakes
4. Done

:hide:

Any idea if I use used calipers if I need to flush them somehow first in case there is junk in the line?

n3985 02-03-2009 07:02 AM

Ya just press the piston back, it will squeeze out all the old fluid.

Klutch 02-03-2009 07:05 AM

Sweet! I can get calipers and rotors off an 06 for less than $100, might as well give it a shot right?

I assume people just change the fronts and don't mess with the rear?

Puppetmaster 02-03-2009 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by n3985 (Post 6850424)
Here is your abbreviated how to:

1. Remove old calipers, rotors, and line from caliper
2. Bolt on new caliper, rotors, and install line to caliper
3. Bleed brakes
4. Done

:hide:

Also be sure to have on hand lots of shop towels and something on the floor to catch all the brake fluid spills. Nitrile gloves help too.

And bed in the pads, if necessary.

Btw, moved to 5th Gen forum before Blehm gets here, because he may not consider this "Advanced"... :D

Klutch 02-03-2009 08:17 AM

Do most just change the fronts and leave the stock rear?

Puppetmaster 02-03-2009 08:25 AM

AFAIK, yes.

diverdown3 02-03-2009 08:31 AM

Has anyone experienced a brake bias issue? I'm thinking that the greater stopping power of the larger 6th gen pads will change the braking bias. Maybe the change is not significant enough to warrant modifying the bias, but it seems the possibility exists.

Puppetmaster 02-03-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by diverdown3 (Post 6850707)
Has anyone experienced a brake bias issue? I'm thinking that the greater stopping power of the larger 6th gen pads will change the braking bias. Maybe the change is not significant enough to warrant modifying the bias, but it seems the possibility exists.

Not with 6th Gen brakes, to my knowledge. While there is an improvement in stopping, it isn't enough to cause significant bias.

Someone just told me that with the Wilwood kit on his 2000, the ABS kicks in before you've even stomped on it all the way.

Klutch 02-03-2009 12:47 PM

Alright you bastages, I ordered a set of 2007 rotors and calipers with brackets, car had 17K on it. $125 shipped!

diverdown3 02-03-2009 01:12 PM

May I ask where you sourced those? New or used?

Klutch 02-03-2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by diverdown3 (Post 6851185)
May I ask where you sourced those? New or used?


Used 17K on them

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat....car-parts.com network of late model salvage yards across the country. Just don't go after the ones in North Carolina, they are SOLD!

diverdown3 02-03-2009 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6851188)
Used 17K on them

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat....car-parts.com network of late model salvage yards across the country. Just don't go after the ones in North Carolina, they are SOLD!

Sorry. I guess I was just skimming the sentence.

Thanks.

HotshotVQ35 02-03-2009 01:20 PM

what kinda pads you going to run?


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6851145)
Alright you bastages, I ordered a set of 2007 rotors

and calipers with brackets, car had 17K on it. $125 shipped!


Puppetmaster 02-03-2009 01:20 PM

I got mine from a junkyard too... $90 shipped for the front calipers... I also made sure the car wasn't totaled because of brake failure :hide:.

Klutch 02-03-2009 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Puppetmaster (Post 6851207)
I got mine from a junkyard too... $90 shipped for the front calipers... I also made sure the car wasn't totaled because of brake failure :hide:.

HAHA, alright man, it worked, I'm a little worried now

No idea on the pads yet. I was thinking about getting the rotors turned out the gate but I'll wait and see how everything looks.

Klutch 02-03-2009 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Puppetmaster (Post 6851207)
I got mine from a junkyard too... $90 shipped for the front calipers... I also made sure the car wasn't totaled because of brake failure :hide:.

Oh and if a 2007 w/17K would have been totalled because of total brake failure I'm certain shortly after the lawsuit Nissan would have had the car destroyed, especially the brake components.

Puppetmaster 02-03-2009 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6851267)
HAHA, alright man, it worked, I'm a little worried now

No idea on the pads yet. I was thinking about getting the rotors turned out the gate but I'll wait and see how everything looks.

Oh I didn't mean that to get you concerned, just saying whenever you get junkyard parts, make sure you ask the right questions.

I'm using Hawk HPS pads along with RTP blanks from Auto-Max and I love the set-up, esp. for what it cost.

dizmax96 02-03-2009 05:42 PM

jus dont get oem pads.. they will make the rotors warp. somethings about the pad material. youre better off just gettin new rotors. imo. ive got akebono proact pads in the front. has a nice bite to it. no noise and low dusting.

jeff5347 02-03-2009 08:03 PM

paid 85 for mine shipped, bracket, rotors and calipers. YOu can check my car domain page i have a write up on how to transfer them to the 5.5.

Klutch 02-03-2009 08:23 PM

What year were your guys' off of? I was trying to get as new as I could and keep the price down.

Also, if you bought used rotors did you have them turned?

Puppetmaster 02-04-2009 06:55 AM

I got mine off a 2005, but I don't think it really matters as long as it is in good working order. I mean, to put it into perspective, people are refurbishing brakes from Z32s with no issues. Just make sure you clean everything up, replace typical wear/rust items like the boot, shims, etc and you should be all set.

Personally, I'm averse to used rotors, so I just got some new ones.

Klutch 02-04-2009 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Puppetmaster (Post 6852268)
I got mine off a 2005, but I don't think it really matters as long as it is in good working order. I mean, to put it into perspective, people are refurbishing brakes from Z32s with no issues. Just make sure you clean everything up, replace typical wear/rust items like the boot, shims, etc and you should be all set.

Personally, I'm averse to used rotors, so I just got some new ones.

Yeah, I was just curious. I figured since I was doing it I might as well get as new as possible, there really wasn't a price difference to speak of. Mine were off a 07 so that's a couple of years of wear, weathering and brake dust that I won't have to clean up. I have $15 in the rotors per side, I figured what the hell.

Puppetmaster 02-04-2009 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6852274)
Yeah, I was just curious. I figured since I was doing it I might as well get as new as possible, there really wasn't a price difference to speak of. Mine were off a 07 so that's a couple of years of wear, weathering and brake dust that I won't have to clean up. I have $15 in the rotors per side, I figured what the hell.

That's a great deal, no harm in that.

Okay, I'll admit that I did partly for the shiny new rotor look... lol. Hard to see here, but the calipers were spray painted flat black while they were off the car.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../Tracks021.jpg

Klutch 02-04-2009 07:22 AM

Looks great, thats partly why I may have the new ones turned to get a fresh look and make sure they are straight from day one. Now I need to figure out what to do about pads. I care about braking but honestly it's a daily driver for me on a long commute. I want the car to stop but not about any real performance. I just want them to not squeal and not crap all over my wheels... $100 pads seem excessive for what I do with the car.

Puppetmaster 02-04-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6852303)
Looks great, thats partly why I may have the new ones turned to get a fresh look and make sure they are straight from day one. Now I need to figure out what to do about pads. I care about braking but honestly it's a daily driver for me on a long commute. I want the car to stop but not about any real performance. I just want them to not squeal and not crap all over my wheels... $100 pads seem excessive for what I do with the car.

My Hawk HPS cost about $85. Can't remember where I got them though. They are a little noisy when cold, but after 2-3 stops, they are fine.

Klutch 02-05-2009 12:24 PM

WOW... got my tracking info for my brakes coming... 75 lbs!!

Herofmine 02-07-2009 06:43 PM

6th gen brakes will work* with 2001 Maxima?

AEMAXIMA01 02-07-2009 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Herofmine (Post 6859452)
6th gen brakes will for with 2001 Maxima?

Huh? english please

Herofmine 02-07-2009 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01 (Post 6859538)
Huh? english please

sorry =) 6th gen brakes will work* with 2001 Maxima?

Klutch 02-08-2009 08:25 AM

Yes but I believe the issue is the wheels. From my searches even the stock 17's have backspace issues with clearance. Stock 17" 02-03 wheels fit fine though. 16's are definitely a no-go

Herofmine 02-08-2009 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6860029)
Yes but I believe the issue is the wheels. From my searches even the stock 17's have backspace issues with clearance. Stock 17" 02-03 wheels fit fine though. 16's are definitely a no-go

Then i will change my brakes when i'm gonna get 18" OEM wheels :)

AEMAXIMA01 02-08-2009 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6860029)
Yes but I believe the issue is the wheels. From my searches even the stock 17's have backspace issues with clearance. Stock 17" 02-03 wheels fit fine though. 16's are definitely a no-go

I thought the 00-01 17s were the same size as the 02-03, just a bit of a different look from the outside? :gotme: I'm going to have to replace my brakes soon as they are warped, and would be looking into getting a set of front 6th gen brakes.

Klutch 02-08-2009 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01 (Post 6860202)
I thought the 00-01 17s were the same size as the 02-03, just a bit of a different look from the outside? :gotme: I'm going to have to replace my brakes soon as they are warped, and would be looking into getting a set of front 6th gen brakes.

Don't take my word as gospel since I don't have a 00-01, just reading through threads and seeing others ask about it this is what I seem to recall the answer being. I seem to remember it being said that while the 17's were similar the backspacing was different on the 00-01 17's. I think I also recall it being said that a spacer can fix that though.

pmohr 02-08-2009 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Klutch (Post 6860245)
Don't take my word as gospel since I don't have a 00-01, just reading through threads and seeing others ask about it this is what I seem to recall the answer being. I seem to remember it being said that while the 17's were similar the backspacing was different on the 00-01 17's. I think I also recall it being said that a spacer can fix that though.

They're both the same width and offset, so the backspacing should be the same as well (roughly). +45 offset on a ~7.5" wide (actual, taking into account the inner lip) wheel should be ~5.5" backspacing.

Haven't done math like that in forever, so there's probably an error there.

AEMAXIMA01 02-08-2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by pmohr (Post 6860261)
They're both the same width and offset, so the backspacing should be the same as well (roughly). +45 offset on a ~7.5" wide (actual, taking into account the inner lip) wheel should be ~5.5" backspacing.

Haven't done math like that in forever, so there's probably an error there.

So since they're the same size, there should be no problem with fitment, as long as I have all of the proper accessories?

pmohr 02-08-2009 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01 (Post 6860264)
So since they're the same size, there should be no problem with fitment, as long as I have all of the proper accessories?

That's my guess, yes.

CustomLowz 02-08-2009 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by AEMAXIMA01 (Post 6860264)
So since they're the same size, there should be no problem with fitment, as long as I have all of the proper accessories?

Maybe take into consideration the shape of the spokes? If they cut in too soon on the 00-01 and not on the 02-03 they can hit the caliper??? I am not sure, as I have an 03, but if everything is the same, thats what I think might be the problem


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