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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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5.5 front engine mount

on the 5.5 max the front mount is electro-hydraulic.
I was wondering if i could use a reg rubber mount?
And if so will the rubber cause more vibration....???
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by maxs4life
on the 5.5 max the front mount is electro-hydraulic.
...for AT only.

Originally Posted by maxs4life
I was wondering if i could use a reg rubber mount?
Yes, but you'll need a MT mount, or you'll have to customize a spacer around the replacement bushings. Both have been done, lots of info in the forum... somewhere.

[edited] Here you go. Lots of good info:
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And if so will the rubber cause more vibration....???
Most definitely. Some like it. Some don't. Either way, the gains from this mod are certainly worth it, IMO.

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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Can you not buy after market non - electro mounts that bolt right in? Seems to me I remember seeing them somewhere. Like this one.

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/200...ine_mount.html

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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spock
Can you not buy after market non - electro mounts that bolt right in? Seems to me I remember seeing them somewhere. Like this one.

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/200...ine_mount.html

suppose so, but where's the fun in that? ... plus it will cost you alot more
Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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No fun, I suppose, but they are available. Personally, I'd go with the electro on my car. Cost is similar and I'm not lookin' to go back to the muscle car era. At least not for my daily driver.
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No fun, I suppose, but they are available. Personally, I'd go with the electro on my car. Cost is similar and I'm not lookin' to go back to the muscle car era. At least not for my daily driver.
That's a valid consideration, Spock. I will honestly admit, there are moments when I regret modding my Maxima. The visceral nature of the engine, the vibrations, the exhaust and intake roar... it can really make you weary sometimes, when all you want to do is relax.

I feel like that maybe 2% of the time. The rest of the time I'm grinning from ear to ear.
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 07:05 AM
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how do we replace this front engine mount? do we have to support the engine while taking it out, or will the other 2 mounts hold everything together white the front mount is out? i have a 6 speed
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wyche89
how do we replace this front engine mount? do we have to support the engine while taking it out, or will the other 2 mounts hold everything together white the front mount is out? i have a 6 speed


The ES mounts come with instructions, also.
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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how do we replace this front engine mount? do we have to support the engine while taking it out, or will the other 2 mounts hold everything together white the front mount is out? i have a 6 speed
http://forums.maxima.org/7443392-post5.html
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wyche89
how do we replace this front engine mount? do we have to support the engine while taking it out, or will the other 2 mounts hold everything together white the front mount is out? i have a 6 speed
let me type out a page length of instructions with pictures for you.. just wait ok.. it's coming...... don't search.. just wait for someone to tell you..
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by junglee Z
let me type out a page length of instructions with pictures for you.. just wait ok.. it's coming...... don't search.. just wait for someone to tell you..
Dude, if you don't want to help or contribute, that's fine, move along and don't post. To do otherwise just makes you small, regardless of how humorous you think you're being... all evidence to the contrary.

Fail.
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max


The ES mounts come with instructions, also.
Originally Posted by junglee Z
let me type out a page length of instructions with pictures for you.. just wait ok.. it's coming...... don't search.. just wait for someone to tell you..
don't give me that "search" crap and sarcastic tone.. the es instructions and all other how to's i found on this site deal with replacing ALL the mounts.. my bottom mounts have already been replaced, and i just need to know if it's possible to replace just the front side one without supporting the engine.. not a whole freakin tutorial on replacing motor mounts smart@$$.. completely unnecessary
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wyche89
...my bottom mounts have already been replaced...
Bottom mounts? What are bottom mounts?

Originally Posted by wyche89
.. completely unnecessary
If you searched you would have seen a few "recent" posts about just doing front or rear using tranny and passenger to support the engine. I know cuz I was involved with and started one or two of the threads.

All this sarcasm and internet b*tching is ridiculous...

...Support the d@mn engine with a jack and small block of wood under the tranny as a safety precaution. That's a given!

Unbolt the crossmember front and rear (4 bolts) and the mounts, front and rear (1 bolt per mount). Drop the crossmember with mounts attached, remove front mount (2 bolts). Replace the front mount. Install crossmember back in reverse order.

Not that d@mn hard. Takes NO time at all...

..enjoy!

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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wyche89
don't give me that "search" crap and sarcastic tone.. the es instructions and all other how to's i found on this site deal with replacing ALL the mounts.. my bottom mounts have already been replaced, and i just need to know if it's possible to replace just the front side one without supporting the engine.. not a whole freakin tutorial on replacing motor mounts smart@$$.. completely unnecessary
It's also completely unnecessary for me to type out a tutorial when they are fully available. Sorry.
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nismopc
All this sarcasm and internet b*tching is ridiculous...
agreed.. that's why people shouldnt have b*tched at me for simply asking if its possible to replace only the front mount without engine support.. wasn't asking for a tutorial on how to do all the mounts as everyone seems to think.. thanx for your post though

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It's also completely unnecessary for me to type out a tutorial when they are fully available. Sorry.
again.. wasn't looking for a tutorial.. the things i found in my search, as well as the things in this thread pertained to replacing all the mounts.. not only the front side mount, as i've said multiple times now.. so i did search before asking the question, and it was a valid question.. also, defending myself when somebody misconstrues what i said and b*tches at me does not constitute as crying
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wyche89
pertained to replacing all the mounts.. not only the front side mount, as i've said multiple times now..
I see. Well did you consider just looking at the part of the instructions that pertained to that mount, and logically consider whether you need to brace the engine (you'll need to move it anyway to reinstall...)?

On another note, have you seen a tutorial to remove my passenger headlight? All the freaking threads I find about changing headlights are for BOTH!!!!?!!?!!!?!??!!
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nismopc
Bottom mounts? What are bottom mounts?
Probably the mounts that are on the bottom of the engine...

Also thought I'd point out that the "Front" mount is the mount that is on the transmission, on the driver's side of the car. The "Rear" is on the passenger side.

Many people refer to the side mounts as "Front" and "Rear", but they technically aren't.

The names for many engine parts were created assuming the engine was longitudinally mounted.

And I might as well say that the side mounts are the only ones that ES makes inserts for, as these are the main torque mounts.

This might help avoid some confusion in the future.

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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Unklejoe
Also thought I'd point out that the "Front" mount is the mount that is on the transmission, on the driver's side of the car. The "Rear" is on the passenger side.

Many people refer to the side mounts as "Front" and "Rear", but they technically aren't.
The mounts on the front (nose) and back (firewall) are the torque mounts. Those are the ones that get the most stress, and consequently the ones that wear out. I consider them the "side mounts", regardless of transverse orientation. In other words, the front of the engine is what defines "front"... not the car. IMO.

But to your quote here, I consider the driver-side mount as the "rear". I mean, if the engine were properly oriented, that would be the rear mount, yes? Am I backwards on this?

I suppose it really doesn't matter as long as you refer to them as sets: torque mounts, and non-torque mounts. Is there a better term for the non-torque mounts?
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Originally Posted by Unklejoe
Probably the mounts that are on the bottom of the engine...

Also thought I'd point out that the "Front" mount is the mount that is on the transmission, on the driver's side of the car. The "Rear" is on the passenger side.

Many people refer to the side mounts as "Front" and "Rear", but they technically aren't.

The names for many engine parts were created assuming the engine was longitudinally mounted.

And I might as well say that the side mounts are the only ones that ES makes inserts for, as these are the main torque mounts.

This might help avoid some confusion in the future.
No confusion here...

This is specifically on the 2002-03 Maxima MT6

Nissan Fast refers to the tranny mount as FRONT LH engine mount insulator, the front torque mount as FRONT RH engine mount insulator, pasenger mount as FRONT engine mount insulator, and rear torque mount as REAR engine mount insulator.

So your telling me even Nissan has it wrong?



By the way, I fully understand longitude and latitude mounting and that the front of a FWD engine is not actually facing forward.

There is no such thing as "bottom mounts" on a VQ.

This might help avoid some confusion in the future.
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Originally Posted by nismopc
No confusion here...

This is specifically on the 2002-03 Maxima MT6

Nissan Fast refers to the tranny mount as FRONT LH engine mount insulator, the front torque mount as FRONT RH engine mount insulator, pasenger mount as FRONT engine mount insulator, and rear torque mount as REAR engine mount insulator.

So your telling me even Nissan has it wrong?



By the way, I fully understand longitude and latitude mounting and that the front of a FWD engine is not actually facing forward.

There is no such thing as "bottom mounts" on a VQ.

This might help avoid some confusion in the future.
That actually doesn't help avoid any confusion at all. There are three Front mounts listed. And I was mistaken on my previous post, the front mount is on the passenger side, by the timing cover, not on the transmission side. The transmission side would be the rear mount.

And the way Nissan describes it makes it hard to visualize. The transmission mount is called Front LH and the passenger is just called Front. They are on opposite sides of the motor, so that just doesn't make sense to me. You would think LH and RH would be on opposite sides of each other, no?

And as far as bottom mounts go, a person can use their own reasoning to determine which mounts another person is referring to when they say "bottom mounts."

We are using names to talk to each other in terms that are easily understood. If we referred to everything the way Nissan does, a lot of things would not make sense. Nissan sometimes refers to the transaxle as a transmission, but we don't have a transmission, we have a transaxle, but I bet more people would understand what I was referring to if I called it a transmission.

Nissan also refers to the transverse link as a control arm, but more people would understand "control arm" than "transverse link".

Originally Posted by Rochester
The orientation of the motor is what defines front-to-back and side-to-side, not the car. NWP's torque link mounts to the front of the motor. It's kind of funny, because I just wrote how these concepts gets ef'd up with a transverse engine.

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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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That actually doesn't help avoid any confusion at all. There are three Front mounts listed....
That was my attempt at sarcasm by repeating a comment that was posted by wyche89. Failure attempt...

Originally Posted by Unklejoe
And the way Nissan describes it makes it hard to visualize. The transmission mount is called Front LH and the passenger is just called Front.
Not sure why all three are referred to as front, but I can say that most FWD manuals, tech, etc. that I have read, looked over all refer to the front as passenger, rear as tranny and sides as front and rear. They base it on the orientation of the chassis/frame, not the oritentation of the engine.
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I see. Well did you consider just looking at the part of the instructions that pertained to that mount, and logically consider whether you need to brace the engine (you'll need to move it anyway to reinstall...)?

On another note, have you seen a tutorial to remove my passenger headlight? All the freaking threads I find about changing headlights are for BOTH!!!!?!!?!!!?!??!!
nice try on the headlight comparison, but it's perfectly logical to think that the mounts attached to the crossmember (hope that's clear enough for everybody, lol) would provide sufficient support for the engine if the other mount was removed (especially considering the fact that my mechanic just dropped the crossmember without any support while installing my headers, and everything turned out fine).. not to mention the fact that i don't just have random pieces of wood laying around, so i would have to go out of my way to go to the store and buy one.. so if it's not necessary, then i will save myself that trip and $

people are so quick to play the "search" card and call people lazy, that they don't take the time to consider whether or not the question actually makes sense
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