M1RAG3

Is anyone running a 10 inch rear? I know 9.5 can fit with rolled fenders....but I cant remember anyone with the 5th gen running a 10 inch rear. I need something to fill out my rear wheel wells.

I was thinking of running a 275/30/19 tire (I beleive this would be the "correct" width for a 10" wheel) but I am wondering if a 255 is safe to run on such a wide wheel since I may have to reduce the tire width depending on rubbing issues.

These are the wheels: TENZO GF-7

IHAVEA2KMAXIMA

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Yes it will fit with the right offset which I believe it's in the 40s.

NiZMo1o1

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wouldnt 255 on a 10 inch width make the tires stretch like them Vdub guys ?

Eg2707

wow 10 thats wide

Norm Peterson

A 10" wide wheel is considered acceptable for 255/35 tires (just barely - 10" is generally the upper end of tire mfr acceptable width for that size). 10" is probably OK for most 255/40's and 255/30's as well, if perhaps a very mild stretch at ~1/2" above mfr recommendations for some tires.

In any case, there won't be much sidewall extending past the wheel flanges, so it might not be a good wheel/tire combination for people who may be more likely to scrape curbs or hit things/holes in the road.

45 and lower profile tires are not supposed to have a bulge-y sidewall shape that looks like 1960's Cadillac style (78 or taller profile) tires on the skinny rims of the time.


Norm

digitalbow

That's crazy talk, particularly for a low profile tire. I don't understand why anyone would want to take a risk like that. 255/35-19 are the appropriate tires for my wheels, which are 19x8.5. A taller tire could get away with 265, but maybe in a 40% height on a smaller diameter rim.

How about a 295/30-19 for a 10" rim? That's more reasonable. If he can't fit the right tire (and I imagine that's the case), that should be an indicator of something...

essential1

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Hi guys.

19x10 with a 22 offset here.

tires are 235/35/19

Never had a problem and I drive daily. I regularly see speeds up to and over 80mph. A friend of mine that drifts is currently running a 225/35 on his 10" wide drift setup and has never had a problem.

Stretching is not dangerous guys.

Norm Peterson

Not crazy talk at all. What I posted is based on a bit more familiarity with tires than you might suspect, longer familiarity with tires than you have, and some very specific research that I actually did just before posting. Crazy talk is talk that is based on emotional response rather than technical content. More to the point, crazy talk is calling technical talk "crazy talk".

Tell you what, go over to tirerack.com and look up 235/35-19. Then report back on what you find. Hint: look at the range of recommended widths, not just the "measuring width". Or check over on discounttiredirect.com, if you prefer.


Unless you're a rather new driver, you ought to have some idea whether or not you're likely to give your wheels a case of curb rash. For those of us who don't (and after 45 years or so driving experience I think I can include myself in that group), any risk is pretty much theoretical. Yes, some risk is there (and I did hint that rim protection is something to consider), but for some of us it is not at all likely.

As a side topic/rant, it does seem that people are becoming unreasonably fearful about a lot of things in the automotive world.


All tires are approved for fitment to a variety of width wheels. The OE wheel width was chosen by the mfr to suit the chosen tire size and his philosophy for the car (among other considerations). What that means to you is that while 19 x 8.5 is an acceptable width wheel for that size tire, it is by no means the only legitimate width wheel for that tire. Actually, 8.5" is on the "soft riding, soft cornering response" end of the wheel width spectrum for that particular size.

That may well be your preference, maybe you just haven't experienced anything different, or maybe you think that the way that 1960's tires looked is the way that tires should still look. At any rate, you don't have enough information or understanding to make such absolute-sounding statements.

Did you know that one US domestic manufacturer specifies a 235/50 tire on 8.5" wide wheels in some models, and 9.5" wide wheels for 255/45's? Should you care to relate those little pieces of information into the discussion of 19's at hand, keep in mind that as the profile drops, the wheel width range tends to shift "upward" (think 10" vs 9.5" here, as the profile drops from 45 to 35).

Do you know that there are stability benefits to be had when fitting tires to wheels up at or toward the maximum recommended width? It's true, and you don't have to be road-racing or autocrossing for that benefit to be of real use. I'm not kidding.


A 295/30-19 generally belongs on wheels between 10" and 11" wide, so once again you're on the narrow end of the spectrum. I'm not trying to claim that you're wrong, just that the range of choices is wider than what you're apparently willing to accept.


Norm

Norm Peterson

I won't go so far as to endorse any absolute statements concerning stretching, either.

I'll go half an inch "above spec" in many cases, which is where your 235/35-19 on 10's is. And drive on it daily, though not for having any appearance factor in mind for doing so. As "stretches" go, the half inch out of spec here is relatively mild.

I'm a lot less sure about going a whole inch wider. Maybe for a dedicated competition tire that is not expected to see street duty, but not generally.


Norm

nismopc

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Now that's some good stuff from the man himself...










j/k - Good information!!

J2FRESH

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whoaa nice.... 19x10 yea would work w/ the right offset of course, most likely a high offset in 40's range like mentioned above (ihavea2kmaxima), & i had a camrao z28 & had 20x10 in back w/ a 255/35/20 tires i would peel out, & donut like everyday no problems & no im not exaggerating & it was my daily driver, not to mention a gas guzzler, just my .02

Pullin3RD

Great info.

McSteve

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I think the OP wanted those specific wheels for cosmetic purposes and not necessarily performance wise... Considering a 19x10 wheel must weigh quite a lot. Also the reason people choose (or I would) that wide of wheels is for the nice thick lip on those. If you get that wheel in the right offset, does it still retain that lip? I have the G35 19s with a 5mm spacer and they sit almost flush, thus filling out the wheel well.

Grand_hustle17

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well seeing as though you already reffered yourself, im done here

essential1

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I forgot to tell you that I saw you the other day. The max looks clean rolling.
I was in my girls thunderbird though. lol


I give you permission to reffer me...



Please....




Do it...

Grand_hustle17

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Hey OP i believe essential1 is running 19x10 and it seems to be working for him, looks great to be honest, you might wanna hit him up to see whats the exact setup and tips he has to offer...

essential1

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Thanks, I'll elaborate...

Hi guys.

19x10 with a 22 offset here.

tires are 235/35/19

Never had a problem and I drive daily. I regularly see speeds up to and over 80mph. A friend of mine that drifts is currently running a 225/35 on his 10" wide drift setup and has never had a problem.

Stretching is not dangerous guys.

Grand_hustle17

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answer thread/ lol

phatboislim

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i'm dying to put some 10" wheels on my mine

Gemner

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this is only true if you dont consider the danger of looking like a tool

Norm Peterson

Beauty - or for that matter "looking like a tool" - is in the eye of the beholder. And there are no standards for individual "taste".

A mild stretch may look all wrong to somebody who chooses wide tires for narrow rims. But that doesn't necessarily make mounting tires out at or around the max recommended width technically wrong. Not even if the wheels are enough wider to differ noticeably from more typical Maxima wheel choices.

I'll question the choices of those who mount tires on under-spec rims, as in why would anyone bother to spend money for wider tires and then throw a lot of that extra performance potential away by squeezing them down onto too-narrow rims? A very common 5th Gen forum topic a few years ago was 235/45's on 17 x 7 OE wheels, actually. And half an inch below spec. Suggesting different solutions was a reasonable way to proceed there. Calling the people wishing to do wide tires on narrow rims names wouldn't fix the technical issue, so you wouldn't have ever caught me doing that.


Norm

hot_wax_tree

c6 corvett has on the base model 19x10" wheels with 285/35 that give you a hint of the proper size...why would you even want wheels that wide in the rear only? it makes no sense AT ALL

nismopc

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I had a set of Nexen n7000's 235/45-17 on my OEM SE rims and purchased them based solely on price alone knowing that speed would be off slightly due to smaller overall diameter of tire. They were much cheaper than the stock 225/50-17 size at the time and unfortunately looked much smaller due to height. I learned my lesson...

I am now running 245/45-17 Firestone Firehawk GTz's on the OEM and love them. Fit good, overall diameter is almost identical to stock and speed is almost dead on and they do not bubble or appear to be too big for the width of the rim.

I prefer the straight up metric look. Rim and tire almost equal width up and down. Felt 225/50-17 seemed too small for the OEM wheels.

Again, personal preference.

Gemner

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235s look alright on the OEM rim, but 245s are definitely too wide. I have 245 DRs on the stock wheels and I definitely would not feel that they are the right size for my everyday tires

nismopc

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Again personal preference, but I see nothing wrong with...

Gemner

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those are some skinny 245s. mine bow quite a bit more

nismopc

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Not sure if you cared, but specs are:

245/45R17
Load Index 95 = 1521lbs (690kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 95W SL
Treadwear: 400
Traction: AA
Temperature: A400 AA A
Max load 1521 lbs.
Max PSi 51 psi
Tread Depth 11/32"
weight 27lbs.
Width Range 7.5-9"
Measured Width 8"
Sect. Width 9.4"
Tread Width 8.1"
Overall Diameter 25.7"
Revs per Mile 811
Country of Origin "JP" = JAPANJP

M1RAG3

Thanks for all the info, guys! A lot of people have chimed in with really good opinions and information. The reason I want to go with such a wide rear wheel is because the competition on the show circuit down here in Toronto is really heating up and my wheels are just not cutting it anymore compared to some of my competitors in the maxima class, IMHO. I realize how heavy a 19x10" wheel is, and also the fact that having a wider rear wheel in a FWD car serves no real purpose. Right now I could buy new 19" inch wheels and add a z32 tt BBK, or go S/C...either way I'm kind of torn between whether I want to drop about $2000 CDN more on the maxima or just put it towards getting another ride next spring....ugh

Deckdout2

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275/30/19 on a 9.5 in the rear here, +42 offset. see ya.

nismopc

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And looks d@mn good too!!!

Gemner

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275 is way too wide, you should be running a 225

glockfanbob

glockfanbob

Because he has a super limited edition rear wheel drive maxima with 525 hp so he needs it for traction purposes.

WhoDatBuuL

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wow ... to wide !!!

e-subliminal-2

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Damn, never new you were running 275's. I was just about to post if possible to run 275's in our rears with 9.5. There goes my answer.

Deckdout2

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You're right, cause this is only my 8th set of wheels. I don't know what I'm talking about.

That's cause I wasn't before. I just got my new set from the Powder coating shop this past Tuesday. Will be mounting them on the car this weekend.

Deckdout2

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Actually, this is not even on the Millie's you see in my sig. Even though those did look good, I'm running that size on another set I picked up.

essential1

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I cant wait to see how the 275s look out back in your car bro. I happen to love the fat meaty tire look out back with wheels like yours. (contrary to popular belief) I wanna see how close it comes to the strut mainly

e-subliminal-2

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+1^. Post pics paramy if you would.

Deckdout2

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There will be a thread dedicated to that.