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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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What color light should a pair of Brand New Xenon

I bought some original, same xenon bulbs on my 02 maxima, I put them on they seem white? Is it because there new or what?
There the xenon 4300k
Old May 9, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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4,300k would be bright white. You really don't get into the blue color spectrum until you get up to around 8,000k. For the BMW blue that everyone goes for, those are around 12,000K, and purple is around 30,000K.
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One of my Stock bulbs busted. So i bought a pair. I put a new one on and compared it with the old one. The old one looked blue while the new one looked white. Do you think it takes time to for the new bulbs to get blue?
Old May 9, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ZGadson
4,300k would be bright white. You really don't get into the blue color spectrum until you get up to around 8,000k. For the BMW blue that everyone goes for, those are around 12,000K, and purple is around 30,000K.
i dunno what you talking about, 4300k and 5K is white, 6K already has a hint of blue, 8k is more bluish
Old May 9, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by killer00
One of my Stock bulbs busted. So i bought a pair. I put a new one on and compared it with the old one. The old one looked blue while the new one looked white. Do you think it takes time to for the new bulbs to get blue?
Yes, over the years, the quality of the bulb diminishes and becomes more blue. I had the same think happen with replacement OEM bulbs.
Old May 10, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NIGHTMAREuki
i dunno what you talking about, 4300k and 5K is white, 6K already has a hint of blue, 8k is more bluish


Though I don't doubt they exist, I've never even heard of 30k HID's. A friend of mine had 12k, they were pinkish/purple and looked absolutely ridiculous. The stock HID's in my 01 740i sport were 4300k.
Old May 10, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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What brand bulbs did you get? Philips 85126? Or cheapo kit bulbs?

The 85126 starts off as pure white (4300k) and colorshifts over time to bluish white (5000k).

It is because the electrodes are slowly vaporizing, and the electrodes emit blue light, so the shape of the electrodes as they shrink will put more blue light into the output.

The overall brightness of the bulb, however, decreases over time.

You should always replace HID bulbs in pairs unless you have had a premature failure with relatively new bulbs.

If these are the factory bulbs, they have probably gone from 4300k 3000lm bulbs to 5000k 2000lm bulbs, which is why your brand new ones look brighter and whiter.
Old May 10, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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there new phillips 4300k.oem
Old May 10, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Wow there is some interesting info in this thread.

OEM bulb temperature is 4300k. That is what the manufacture sends out with the cars. The reason some car models lights seem different in color is due to their projectors. That is where most of the "color" is seen. Ever notice how when you see them coming at you the lights appear white/blue/purple but the road is always white? (OEM)

After market bulbs produce the colors that you normally see a projector causing but at the level of the bulb. That is why you can order different bulb temperatures, usually between 3000k-12000k. The lower being yellow and going into white-blue-purple. Aftermarket HID kits do this because most of the headlights these are going into are not projectors and people prefer a certain color. No matter what anyone tells you, 4300k is the rating at which the most lumens (light output) are infront of you onto the road. Whether that temperature appears the brightest at oncoming traffic or puts light onto the road is where the misconception usually happens.

Like someone else stated all ready, the bulbs over time will go through a color shift. That is the nature of the bulbs and will happen naturally. That is why when you replace 1 bulb they will look like different colors, because they are actually emitting a different color visually.

Hope this helps.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NIGHTMAREuki
i dunno what you talking about, 4300k and 5K is white, 6K already has a hint of blue, 8k is more bluish
Yup yup.


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30k hid's..........
Old May 10, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NIGHTMAREuki
i dunno what you talking about, 4300k and 5K is white, 6K already has a hint of blue, 8k is more bluish
Yes Sir got my 8000k off HIDextra.com after one bulb died and Nissan wanted 190 dollars and Napa 90 dollars and HID 32 bucks for the pair installed and was instantly blue and factory is white.
Old May 10, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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4300k is the only way to go if you want the maximum amount of light on the road. I don't know how these people running around with 8-12k bulbs can see jack at night. My lights overwhelm their's when I am next to them.
Old May 10, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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I'm running 8k fogs and 4300k headlights. Personally love it. However I have been with a buddy with 8k headlights and visibilty and is no where near as clear.. Stock is the way to go if you want to be able to see*. As for 30k..... Wow..... That'd pretty hot don't ya think?

I'm pretty sure 12k is purpleish. I think that looks rice as hell.. Until I saw it on a neighbors 700+whp cobra.....

I think if anyone runs that high of a temp you gotta push 400+ whp minimum. I don't think maximas can pull anything above MAX 8k anyways..

Just my .2..

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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by e-subliminal-2
I'm running 8k fogs and 4300k headlights. Personally love it. However I have been with a buddy with 8k headlights and visibilty and is no where near as clear.. Stock is the way to go if you want to be able to see*. As for 30k..... Wow..... That'd pretty hot don't ya think?

I'm pretty sure 12k is purpleish. I think that looks rice as hell.. Until I saw it on a neighbors 700+whp cobra.....

I think if anyone runs that high of a temp you gotta push 400+ whp minimum. I don't think maximas can pull anything above MAX 8k anyways..

Just my .2..
You're consuming 200W (0.2 kW) on the car which produces at least 1.2 kW with its alternator, let alone engine >150kW) - it will pull. 30K bulbs must emit X- rays IMO.
Old May 10, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Max_5gen
You're consuming 200W (0.2 kW) on the car which produces at least 1.2 kW with its alternator, let alone engine >150kW) - it will pull. 30K bulbs must emit X- rays IMO.
The CCT ratings are utter bull****, by the way. The only thing that is remotely standardized is 4300k, because that's what the OEMs use.

"3000k" bulbs are usually selective yellow tinted 4300k bulbs. They are nowhere close to an actual 3000k CCT, which is really white with a slight amount of yellow, like untinted halogen bulbs.

Same with the very high color temperature bulbs. If a bulb really had a 30,000K CCT, it would peak in the deep ultraviolet, would not be visible to the human eye, and would give you skin cancer. But it's not. It's just a purple tinted bulb.

Most of these "color temperature" comparisons come from people who don't know what they're talking about. None of the color temperatures listed on the websites are actual CCTs. The vendor gets a shipment of bulbs, "ok I'll label these white ones as 4300k, and I'll label these slightly bluish ones as 5000k, and I'll label these light blue ones as 6000k, and these really blue ones as 10000k". These kits are not legal, and they're not regulated. The quality control is minimal at best. There's no federal standard for what a 8,000K HID bulb should look like, so there is a huge variance among vendors, and even within different kits from the same vendor.
Old May 10, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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I just got 8000K's for my headlights and fogs. They're mostly white with just the right tinge of blue. They light up the road very nicely. I got them really cheap from ddmtuning.com, and I'm extremely pleased with them. At first I was debating whether to get 6000 or 8000, and was kinda worried my 8's would be too blue... but they're definitely not. I love them!
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