blkbat_77

ok guys i just replaced my clutch with a stage 2 competition clutch. and got a used trans cuz my first gear blew.Now i have 2 problems. the worst and most annoying is the clutch chatter. i cant stand it at all!!!! i dnt even want to drive the car anymore cuz of it. its horrible the car feels like its going to fall aprt.

from what i know and i did, i waited 500 miles already, i bled the clutch i know my passenger side axle cv boot is ripped and prob low on grease. and i couldnt get my flywheel resurfaced becuase no will do it so i ended up light sanding it to get the glaze off. so everytime i get out of first and reverse the car feels like its breaking. and sometimes when i down shift from third to second in low rpms its will chatter as well. i cannot stand it anymore. i have no idea if any mounts are bad, before i did this project and the car had the stock clutch it never did this. and also i never adjusted the clutch pedal isk if that makes a difference

next problem is that it is so hard to put the car in reverse. you have to literally slam it in there. and most of the time rough to get into first. evry other gear is just fine and when the car is off they all go in like butter. but reverse is a killer and first is just to rough to be normal


any ideas???

thanks alot in advance

Deckdout2

iTrader: (151)

Now I know that you will get chatter if you go up in Stages in clutch performance. I had chatter when I went to a Stage 3 in my Legend Coupe 6-speed. I have a Stage 3 in the Max and I don't notice the chatter. So your Stage 2 should have hardly no chatter at all. Who is the Manufacture of that clutch. It must be something else too, cause the chatter is mild at best and should not have as violent symptoms as you say.

j23a45m9

iTrader: (6)

sounds like the throw out bearing

blkbat_77

theres a new throw out bearing and its a competition clutch

BLACK_03_SE

Don't know about the chatter but as far as the difficulty shifting into gears, maybe your synchros are bad. Maybe the used tranny is bad. IDK - just guessing.

blkbat_77

yea thats what im guessing, i already called they shop theyre looking for a new one now

blkbat_77

but anyone have any ideas about the chatter?? its so damn annoying to an unbelievable extent

2slow

iTrader: (6)

First, fix the axle, it could be contributing.

Second, check the motor mounts more closely (two lower & passenger side). A higher 'stage' clutch will totally 'grab' harder and exacerbate motor mount issues.

Third, check the clutch is adjusted properly; or do this first because it is free.

Lastly, how was the clutch broken-in, and who manufactured it?

blkbat_77

its a competition clutch and when i engage and disengage the clutch feels a little weird, it feels like there is 3 differnt spots, like all the way to the ground and feels different have way and fully realesed idk how to explain it but how can i go about adjusting the clutch and can i do it by myself?? i dont have the fsm by the way

2slow

iTrader: (6)

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/maxima/

fpromax02

resurface yr flywheel....check motor mounts...and there r two bleeders..make sure u use them both...mounts r cheap

Rood

iTrader: (15)

What brand clutch?

02SE6MT

youre not using the factory dual mass (sprung) flywheel with a sprung clutch disc are you?

blkbat_77

yea its the stock flywheel i cant afford a new one and i know one bleeder is by the clutch line on the trans wheres the other??

blkbat_77

also how can i check the mounts to know if theyre bad??

Gemner

iTrader: (4)

wait, so you ARE using the stock flywheel with a sprung disc? AND you are using a flywheel that wasnt resurfaced? there arent many more places you could have screwed up your clutch job, maybe its time you do some research into how to properly replace your clutch.

after you do that and replace the parts you find are not compatible, let us know if you have any more problems. it sounds like the hard shifting is the result of your clutch not completely disengaging

blkbat_77

i sanded off the glaze off the flywheel?? no shop at all wants to resurface it and its only hard to get into reverse and somtimes first every other gear is just fine. if the car is rolling just a little but then it will go smoothly into first but always rough into reverse

blkbat_77

and would i be able to be a fidanza flywheel friction plate kit?? or it has to be a new flywheel??

Gemner

iTrader: (4)

you need an unsprung flywheel if you have a sprung disc, so you would need a new flywheel. you can get a spec flywheel for like $400 or something like that and its lighter than fidanza...and it works great

jasonmax

iTrader: (2)

2 sets of springs in there must be horrible

blkbat_77

guys i dont have another 400 to spend? is there anyway around this?? and is this my reason of bad chatter??

Child_uv_KoRn

iTrader: (7)

The flywheel doesn't need to be resurfaced if it was sanded correctly. Mine was black and blue and I reused it without actual resurfacing. I had zero issues.

Gemner

iTrader: (4)

the only way to get around this is for you to research next time. you screwed up and youre going to have to pay, unfortunately thats how it works. you can suck it up and fight through the chatter until you can afford a flywheel or swap in the old unsprung disc, its up to you. more likely than not this is the source of your chatter

speedracer6

It does if it was warped.

blkbat_77

guess im screwed and gotta pick up 400 somehow cuz i left my old clutch disc in the rain well anything get ruined if i leave it as is right now?

Gemner

iTrader: (4)

chatter is hard on all parts of the drivetrain, so the potential to break something is definitely there. the danger level just depends on how bad the chatter is

02SE6MT

^^ +1

this could've been avoided..

02SE6MT

imo just get a fidanza if you have a sprung disc already

blkbat_77

ok i understand but moneys really tiight now so my 2 options are a fidanza flywheel or an unsprung clutch disc right?? and why is it bad that they both have springs what makes a difference so i know for my own knowledge

jasonmax

iTrader: (2)

because springs are for smoothing out load. when you have two sets of springs, the clutch needs compress two sets of spring in order to get the force down.
imaging your suspension had too soft springs, your car would feel like a boat.

blkbat_77

i dnt see how that was cause clutch chatter but thanks for the explanation