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knight_yyz 09-08-2010 10:45 AM

Pitch is metric. Imperial threads are measures threads per inch, metric id measured by distance between threads. 1mm pitch is 1mm from top of thread to top of thread. I'm not sure which screws you are talking about. Most of the screws under the hold are M6. Which ones are M10?

knight_yyz 09-08-2010 10:47 AM

Duh, misread your post. The struts are M10 x 1.25

99 times out of 100 you will want the coarse metric thread for the maxima. Larger number coarse, smaller is fine. M10 x 1 is fine M10 x 1.25 is coarse

Rochester 09-08-2010 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7726364)
Duh, misread your post. The struts are M10 x 1.25

Strut nuts are M10 x 1.25. Got it. Thanks.

It seems this is a slightly better deal than Toronto Bikes:

http://www.dressupbolts.com/products...&product_id=23


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7726356)
Most of the screws under the hold are M6. Which ones are M10?

Boy, that's true! M6 everywhere!

One exception I know of... the VIAS vacuum tank uses a M8 bolt to the UIM. But I deleted that.

Rochester 09-08-2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7726262)
I wouldn't replace those. They have special collars on them to keep the cover aligned. You would have to find separate collars of the right length and inner and outer diameters.

I'd like to pull one of those bolts and see what you're talking about. I realize you're supposed to do a 2-stage torque down on the VC's, but pulling one wee little bolt shouldn't be a problem...

...should it? :shy:

Rochester 09-08-2010 04:51 PM

The Brake Booster line has a 12", metallic tube in the middle of the hose configuration, secured to the firewall with plastic clips. Why? :gotme: I don't know... you would think an uninterrupted hose would work just fine.

But that's not my point. The point is that after 8 years, it was pretty corroded. And it's a really simple matter to disengage the tube, grind it down on the wire wheel (or use sandpaper, if you'd rather), then prime and paint.

Here it is before...

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/b...ipe_before.jpg

...and here it is after.

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/b...pipe_after.jpg

BTW, the brake booster lines are ripe for shiny new stainless-steel mini-clamps... which I'm hoping to know more about from knight_yyz and rroderiques77. (They're my mini-clamp guinea pigs. :p)

knight_yyz 09-08-2010 06:22 PM

It won't hurt to remove 1 of the rocker cover bolts. You'll see there is a shoulder about 8mm diameter by about 10mm long to align the cover

knight_yyz 09-08-2010 09:05 PM

As soon as I get all my hoses replaced, I will measure the new hose. It may be a little thinner or thicker so I am hesitant to buy new clamps until I have all the dimensions.

rroderiques77 09-09-2010 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7726260)
http://www.torontocycles.com/Selling...ium_Bolts.html

Order all your bolts, then you have to add the color to the cart for 2 bucks (click on the left side titanium anodizing then "add to cart"). Shipping is 5 bucks.

good find!!!

Rochester 09-10-2010 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7727162)
It won't hurt to remove 1 of the rocker cover bolts. You'll see there is a shoulder about 8mm diameter by about 10mm long to align the cover

Ray, you're absolutely right about the valve cover bolts. Here's a picture of one. I believe it's called a "Flange Head Shoulder Bolt".

Notice the side-by-side with these titanium M6 Shoulder Bolts. Do you think they would work? The shank is obviously smaller.

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/shoulder_bolts.jpg

Rochester 09-10-2010 05:28 PM

The more I look at this, more more I'm thinking these titanium shoulder bolts would work just fine. At some point, I'm going to purchase a handful of nuts & bolts from http://www.Probolt-Usa.com, and I could probably get one of these to test out.

M6-25mm Titanium Shoulder Bolts are $6.56 a piece:

http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/...ered/TIORFB625

If it doesn't work, I also discovered is that the OEM bolt cleans up very nicely on the wire-wheel. Nice and shiny clean. Well... maybe not perfectly shiny, certainly not in macro mode on the camera. But from a foot or two away, it looks fine. Better than otherwise, at least.

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/up_close_bolt.jpg

knight_yyz 09-10-2010 08:57 PM

you would have to measure the shoulder diameter. The shoulder length isn't a big deal, but they put the shoulder there to keep the cover aligned.

Rochester 09-11-2010 06:07 PM

Finally found a place for that extra JDM fender washer. I was happy with the 4 already in place, 2 each at each headlight. But everywhere I tried that 5th fender washer that came in the kit, it just looked dumb. (That's a relative opinion, natch.)

Ended up having it tucked away as the tie-down bolt for that oddly shaped black wire caddy (or whatever you want to call it), just next to the VIAS. Or in this case, where the VIAS used to be. It looks good against the black, and isn't at all obvious... unless you stick a camera over it. :p

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/last_jdm.jpg

And speaking of "finally"... I kept that old PROGRESS decal that came with my rear sway bar way back when. Never knew what to do with it, until I noticed it might look good on the inside engine lip of the fender:

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/progress_decal.jpg

...which goes with the theme of putting decals in the engine bay, but not on the engine cover. I got around to removing all the factory warning stickers from the front support arm, painted the radiator cap to match the color of the radiator tie-downs clamps, and used the Nismo decal, that I didn't use for the oil cap, on the radiator cap. I think it looks good there... even though it's not really a Nismo rad cap. (Oh well.)

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/f...upport_bar.jpg

Rochester 09-12-2010 11:36 AM

I had one of those "Duh!" moments today, when I realized the primary air-conditioning coolant pipe could be polished to a chrome-like finish.

By hand.

Without removing it.

:wiggle: Yes it can.

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/acline_polished.jpg

Oh, and the black wiper motor canister cleans up real nice, too. :D

knight_yyz 09-12-2010 03:17 PM

steel wool on the a/c pipe?

SoonerFan 09-12-2010 03:26 PM

wow thats shiny :thumbsup: i used metal polish on that once but it never got that shiny

Rochester 09-12-2010 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7731884)
steel wool on the a/c pipe?


Originally Posted by SoonerFan (Post 7731894)
wow thats shiny :thumbsup: i used metal polish on that once but it never got that shiny

Thanks, guys. (Hi, Sooner.)

No steel wool, just simple 3M Metal polish and some light elbow grease with (get this) paper toweling. Honest, it wasn't any effort at all. I was... shocked. Seriously, shocked. :eek: Had to post the findings.

Now I've got this gleaming, chrome-like piping in the engine bay where there was always this dull, flat aluminum. Amazing, huh? I kind of want to do the same to the squirrelly little AC tubing on the other side, but don't want to break anything, or end up with bloody knuckles.

Rochester 09-13-2010 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by HotshotVQ35 (Post 7674314)
wow..i cant believe the mounting bracket to the strut tower on the frankencar actually held up on your car for this long..mine snapped in 2 after a year or so..but i didnt have my ES mounts..


Originally Posted by The6spdMax (Post 7674498)
Yeah, I noticed too, and it looks like it is holding pretty well. My current SRI has a bracket holding the Apexi filter from the bottom and I don't really like it. But I prefer Rochester Frankencar's bracket better, does anyone sell the bracket itself or do I have to make my own?

After discovering that the main A/C pipe can polish up, I did the same on that old Frankencar retaining bracket. It looks like chrome now. Go figure.

I think I want to buy some kind of table-mounted polishing wheel. Is there such a thing?

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/sri_bracket.jpg

Rochester 09-13-2010 06:13 PM

This. I want one of these.

http://www.desiredcreations.com/imag...BBufferSM2.jpg

I have an old table-mounted grinder, with a wire-wheel at one end, but it's ancient and scary. This looks really nice, where I could swap a wire-wheel for a buffing wheel.

I need one of these things here.

bryan163 09-13-2010 11:06 PM

I been doing a little polishing too with some help from friends. here's some pics of the progress. first I power-washed the whole motor. The valve cover was cleaned with a wire wheel, then polished by hand with Mothers metal polish. The other parts were painted with Duplicolor wheel coating. This most resent makeover was the byproduct of a much needed motor replacement.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...5_743938_n.jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4102977_n.jpghttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1000282_n.jpg

Rochester 09-14-2010 04:47 AM

That looks fantastic! Man, I'd love it if my transmission looked like that.

Great work, Bryan!

Rochester 09-14-2010 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Rochester (Post 7729975)
Notice the side-by-side with these titanium M6 Shoulder Bolts. Do you think they would work? The shank is obviously smaller.

http://www.johnclare.com/pics/cars/shoulder_bolts.jpg


Originally Posted by knight_yyz (Post 7730191)
you would have to measure the shoulder diameter. The shoulder length isn't a big deal, but they put the shoulder there to keep the cover aligned.

I measured the shoulder on the OEM valve cover bolts: 9mm.

Then I wrote to ProBolt-usa.com, and they tell me the shoulder on their Ti-bolts is 10mm.

Then I measured the hole in the Valve Cover, and that looks between 11mm and 12mm.

edit: I just now noticed the full product description on that shoulder-bolts page:

http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/...Hex_Shouldered

...where it lists the shoulder at 11.90mm. Well, that seems to be exactly the diameter of the VC hole, which would give it zero play if it fit.

Now I don't know what to think.

bryan163 09-14-2010 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rochester (Post 7734228)
I measured the shoulder on the OEM valve cover bolts: 9mm.

Then I wrote to ProBolt-usa.com, and they tell me the shoulder on their Ti-bolts is 10mm.

Then I measured the hole in the Valve Cover, and that looks between 11mm and 12mm.

edit: I just now noticed the full product description on that shoulder-bolts page:

http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/...Hex_Shouldered

...where it lists the shoulder at 11.90mm. Well, that seems to be exactly the diameter of the VC hole, which would give it zero play if it fit.

Now I don't know what to think.

I think the shank on the VC bolts also allows correct an consistant compression of the gasket all the way around, by stopping the bolt at the right depth. So getting one the same length too might be a good ideah too.
I did those gaskets when I replaced the motor. the kit came with some shiny new zink plated grommet washers. I restored the stock bolts as best i could.

Rochester 09-15-2010 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by bryan163 (Post 7734676)
I think the shank on the VC bolts also allows correct an consistant compression of the gasket all the way around, by stopping the bolt at the right depth. So getting one the same length too might be a good ideah too.

That makes a lot of sense, Bryan. I've got conflicting statements from ProBolts-usa.com about shoulder width, and now this idea that the shoulder may serve a dual purpose.

You know... I'm going to pass on these Titanium Shoulder Bolts, and either clean up the ones I have, or purchase new OEM bolts from Nissan.

Thanks, knight_yyz and bryan163!

rroderiques77 09-16-2010 02:13 PM

Here are some photos of the Mini clamps...

Power steering reservoir
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3268/img2541i.jpg

Brake booster
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3910/img2542g.jpg

Brake booster lines
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6079/img2543b.jpg

Oil catch can hoses
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9691/img2544e.jpg

Vacuum line to rear of elbow
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5553/img2545pf.jpg

Coolant pipe
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7427/img2546p.jpg

Turbo pipes
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1694/img2547f.jpg

Front of elbow near throttle body
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1121/img2548mq.jpg

Evap service port
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4497/img2549z.jpg

Rochester 09-16-2010 02:28 PM

What's your opinion on all this, Roy? Are you glad you went with SS mini-clamps vs. the OEM spring clamps?

Do you know which sizes to order for which hoses now?

The one on the turbo-pipe looks like a worm-clamp. :gotme:

I really like your catch-can. Where'd you get that? (You totally have me researching blow-back catch-cans now. Thanks, Roy!)

And last... how come you're still running coolant around your TB? You live in the desert, right?

rroderiques77 09-16-2010 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rochester (Post 7737109)
What's your opinion on all this, Roy? Are you glad you went with SS mini-clamps vs. the OEM spring clamps?

Do you know which sizes to order for which hoses now?

The one on the turbo-pipe looks like a worm-clamp. :gotme:

I really like your catch-can. Where'd you get that? (You totally have me researching blow-back catch-cans now. Thanks, Roy!)

And last... how come you're still running coolant around your TB? You live in the desert, right?

The mini clamps look much nicer IMO. From Ultimate Garage, you would want to order #s 15 & 17. The turbo pipe looks like a worm clamp, but it is solid around the hose area. As far as Catch can, just go to Hope Depot and purchase a air/water separator from its air tools section. The Law has a great write-up on this. As far as TB, which picture are your referring to?

Rochester 09-16-2010 04:27 PM

So 2 sizes...? Could you use the little guys on the evap lines for your radiator overflow hose?

Reading now (and for some time, I think) about the catch-can. That was never really on my radar until I saw your photo. I need to put that on my list of projects.

And I was totally mistaken... that's the evap connection to the intake, not the TB coolant fluid. My bad.

rroderiques77 09-16-2010 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Rochester (Post 7737230)
So 2 sizes...? Could you use the little guys on the evap lines for your radiator overflow hose?

Reading now (and for some time, I think) about the catch-can. That was never really on my radar until I saw your photo. I need to put that on my list of projects.

And I was totally mistaken... that's the evap connection to the intake, not the TB coolant fluid. My bad.

I forgot about those little ones. I will check and let you know tomorrow.

sontakke 09-17-2010 06:50 AM

Can you give me your oem spring clamps? I much prefer them than the screw-in types. I hope you did not throw them away.

- Vikas

Rochester 09-17-2010 08:23 AM

I just found a local powdercoating shop that will bead-blast my FSTB brackets and powdercoat them in "Black Chrome", which is this awesome gun-metal color... for only $25!

My polished titanium strut nuts will be showing up next week. Together with these reborn brackets, my strut towers should look amazing.

I'm very psyched for this. Pictures late next week.

InfinitiI35Rice 09-17-2010 08:43 AM

I ended up doing a Black engine cover and blue infiniti symbol on my I35 so i have a metallic blue and black theme.. Turbo coming soon too

doublea 09-17-2010 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Rochester (Post 7737963)
I just found a local powdercoating shop that will bead-blast my FSTB brackets and powdercoat them in "Black Chrome", which is this awesome gun-metal color... for only $25!

My polished titanium strut nuts will be showing up next week. Together with these reborn brackets, my strut towers should look amazing.

I'm very psyched for this. Pictures late next week.

That's going to be really nice.

I actually had my FSTB black chromed, and all the bolts & nuts show chromed. I have yet to get it but that should be in the next week or so. I'd be really interested in seeing your FSTB, 25$ is really cheap.

Rochester 09-17-2010 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by doublea (Post 7738006)
That's going to be really nice.

I actually had my FSTB black chromed, and all the bolts & nuts show chromed. I have yet to get it but that should be in the next week or so. I'd be really interested in seeing your FSTB, 25$ is really cheap.

Pictures. Pictures. Pictures. ;)

Man, I love this thread. I can't believe I've turned into an engine-bling whore. Particularly when just over a year ago I would have dissed all this crap.

doublea 09-17-2010 10:42 AM

That is pretty much the last part that needed an up-lift, in the meantime here is some new stuff I just installed.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89...a/IMG_0085.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89...a/IMG_0080.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89...a/IMG_0083.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89...a/IMG_0084.jpg

InfinitiI35Rice 09-17-2010 10:48 AM

That chrome is crazy!!!

doublea 09-17-2010 10:54 AM

I guess people can say that I'm totally focked up. Instead of putting my money in drug abuse I prefer to invest it in chrome abuse. Lol

At this point I'm very close to start the engine, hopefully next week-end. I will keep you guys posted asap.

Cheers

AA

Rochester 09-17-2010 11:09 AM

That is jaw-dropping stuff, doublea. You are so far out of my league, it's humbling to allow for any similarity in the discussion.

Of course, I can drive my car to work in the dead of winter, and you're stuck driving that BMW X5...





Wait for the humor to sink in... :laugh: There it is.

rroderiques77 09-18-2010 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by doublea (Post 7738120)

Nice rad hoses. What are they?

knight_yyz 09-18-2010 09:11 AM

all that work and no aluminum rad?

doublea 09-18-2010 10:42 AM

Check the company website: www.coolflex.com
It was a bit expensive but now I know why.


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