I can't seem to find it in the FAQ, does anyone know where i can get instructions for installing Front 6.5" components and rear (door) 6.5" coaxials on the 2k2 Max? (emphasis on component installs)

All i've been able to find was Punkdork's How-to on taking out the doors.

I have a 2k2 with stock audio system (non-bose) and would like to install the aftermarket speakers myself (darn! Cartoys quoted me $200 for installation on both sets!)

Any info or help is gladly appreciated.

Thanks.

- Mike

 

Check with Crutchfield. They usually send how to's when you purchase equipment from them.

Jeff

 

Crutchfield makes great instructions but if you have already bought the speakers then you have to pay for the instructions. I have taken my doors off so many time now I could probably do it blindfolded. The door panels have to come off along with the sill panels to get to the tweeters. Component speakers are the way to go. Have fun and try to not break everything.

 

Jeff, Audioman... Thanks for the tips. I do have the Crutchfield guide, however they sent me one similar to the 2001 Guide so i presume it's all and the same instructions.

What it fails to include is the tweeter installation for components Anyone of you know how i can get to the stock tweets and replacing them with the Infinity's?

Thanks

Btw, what do you guys have on your systems? Do 6.5" fit on the Max? (I hear Max's uses oversized - 6.75" - woofers)

Double thanks!

- Mike

 

bumpity bump. anyone?

 

I am currently also installing my speakers, Infinity components in front and 2-ways in the rear! I'm also in Houston! Weird...

Anyways, you need mounting adapters in order to install them on the 2K front and rear doors, which i'm guessing is the same case with the 2K2. I ordered 2 sets of the mounting rings from Crutchfield for $15 each set. They're made by Scosche. Unfortunately, they don't fit very well. They use the existing holes for the stock speakers, but they don't all line up perfectly. On the rear right door it fit fine, but I had to rig the rear left with a long screw to make it connect. I think it came loose so I'm going to have to fix that soon.

As for the tweeters in the A-pillar, it's pretty easy, though it requires drilling metal to attach the tweeter mount to the pillar. Do you plan to run new wiring or use the stock wires? If you're using stock wiring, you'll have to cut the plug heads off and splice the wires from the car to the speaker. I bought Nissan speaker adapters from Best Buy, but they don't fit. Supposedly they don't exist for the Maxima, so you'll have to splice the existing wires.

It's pretty easy to remove the door panels. The toughest part is mounting the speakers because the brackets don't line up correctly.

If you need help, pm me. I'm in SW Houston and am glad to help. This weekend, I'm removing the interior to run wires for my amps and speakers.

 

Forgot to add, you might want to get those XTC speaker baffles that Crutchfield sells. When I first installed my component woofer in the front door, they got wet because water somehow got into the door, probably from the windows. Not sure what damage water will do to the speakers, but better safe than sorry.

Also, the scosche mounts aren't Nissan specific. Crutchfield sent me the ones for GM cars. They sort of fit, but not perfectly. I'm gonna call them tomorrow to make sure they sent the right ones. Then I'm going to Best Buy to buy a pair of theirs to see if they fit any better.

 

are you saying there's no way to buy the right mounting hardware to make aftermarket speakers fit? This is some B.S., the 5th gen has been over 2 yrs in production, there's gotta be an easy way to install the door speakers.

 

How will the infinity speakers sound with the stock 120 head unit? I want to upgrade my stock speakers because they really sound awful above volume 21. I am thinking about going all out and getting a amp nad sub but I really don't want all that extra weight. What do you guys think, is it ok to just upgrade the speakers? Thanks.

 

Not saying that it's impossible, just that I've used a major brand's mounting hardware and it doesn't fit exactly. You can make it fit, just ****es me off that it doesn't fit perfectly. I don't think it was made specifically for the Maxima, but for a lot of cars, so it has to be generic. You can always do like Punkdork and just cut the old speakers out of the stock bracket and superglue the new speaker into the old mounting ring. I didn't want to do that because I'd like to reuse the speakers in my next car.

 

Called Crutchfield and found out the speaker mounting rings are generics for multiple cars. They fit well enough on the Maxima, you just have to work at it. Kind of frustrating until you get the screws correctly in the bracket. The bracket holes are ovals, so you can position the screws incorrectly in the holes and the screws won't line up with the holes in the door.

 

I went to Best Buy, and they charge $40 to install.

 

uuuhhh not,,,DIY

 

You might want to open your door panels and see what kind of job they did. ie is everything flush and secure. If you don't hear any weird noises when you boom the stereo, you should be ok. Might be a good option for anyone who doesn't want to diy. $40 isn't bad. The amount of work I've put into installing it myself, i'd rather have paid the $40.

 

oh no, I didn't do it. I just asked how much the install costs.

 

didn't read all the threads but if you are stil having problems with your tweeter install, it is easy. pry the a pillar piece off and take the POS out and put your Infinity in. Run the wire to wherever your crossover is going to be.

For the woofer, the opening is oversized, like most cars. The best thing to do is get a piece of medite and take the template in the Infinity instructions and with a jigsaw create a perfect size hole for your new woofers. The link below shows what mine look like underneath the dynamat. You can see the outline of the plate.
After Before

 

Oh, cool. Well, if anyone does have theirs done at a shop, you might want to open it up and check the work yourself.

 

thanks ppl

 

Don't forget to calculate the needed mounting depth for your new woofer. Sometimes when you custom make the mounting adapter, you also need to size the depth of the adapter (by using different thickness plywood) so the woofer magnet doesn't hit your window when it is rolled down . . . You may also consider the maximum woofer cone excursion in this calculation to prevent the front of the cone from hitting the inside of the interior door panel where the speaker grill is located.

 

All good points, but
1) there's plenty of room between the outer door wall and the speaker mount (typically get a 3" deep woofer)
2) speaker locations are at the bottom fronts of the doors, so no way the windows will touch them
3) there's plenty of room between the inside of the door panel and the speaker cone surround.

 

Thanks Tanmann9! I haven't upgraded the Maxima woofers yet, but I do have experience with this in Honda's which is why I mentioned the spacing . . .

Would you know if the stock Bose amp in the trunk can handle upgraded woofers/tweeters in the front doors without burning itself or the drivers out? Thanks!

 

I'm not too good with amps, watts, and power ratings. All I know I just recently learned by installing on my own car. So there's an amp in the trunk with the Bose system? If so, I don't think installing stronger speakers will cause it to burn out or anything. If the amp is not very powerful, then you won't get the maximum output from the speakers. If you turn up the volume, the amp will supply as much power as it is built to supply, and that's as much power as the speaker will receive. Not entirely sure about it, but it seems logical at least.

 

Thanks for the response. What kind of setup do you have now (amps, drivers, etc.) . . .

 

I've got Infinity components in the front doors, Infinity 2-way in the rear doors, a 12" sub in the trunk, and two amps on order. The amps will be a 75X4 for the front and rears, and a sub amp 300X1. I'm not a big bass fan, listen mostly to alternative rock, so don't want much bass. Pioneer head unit and cd changer in the trunk. I want to get a Pioneer AVX-7300DVD (DVD player with 7" motorized flip-out screen) and a tv tuner, but I might save my money and trade for a 350Z this summer.

By the way, only the head unit and rear speakers are currently installed. The rest will be installed after Christmas.

Also keep in mind, your standard car insurance won't cover the new audio equipment. You have to pay extra to get them covered, which is still a good deal.

 

Thank you for your response. Sounds like you've got a pretty good system there. I'm looking at keeping the OEM Bose head but upgrading the drivers. Some other people have tried this with the 2K2 and within a couple of weeks at least one channel, with MB Quart drivers, failed. It wasn't clear if this was the result of the VC burning out from distortion or from the OEM Bose amp burning out from the load . . . I may just go the route you took and replace everything . . .

 

Hey xtant, what is medite and how did you apply it? Are you covering the existing hole in the door, then mounting the speaker to the medite? Is there enough clearance between the door panel and the speaker if you do it this way? I'm currently having problems with the Schosche mounting rings. They don't line up correctly with the hole in the door, so some of the screws I used to screw the speaker to the ring are hitting the metal of the door behind it.

 

Tanmann9, That's highly odd , just kidding. Thanks for all the information you've given. I started prying out the panels over the weekend when the rain just poured on me <g>. I've just rescheduled the whole thing for next weekend. I envy some of you guys with your fancy garages and all

So, i presume - judging from all the responses - it's not possible to just replace directly the speakers right? I guess it's also time for me to rent out some tools from Home Depot so i can cut those boards.

Oh, yeah, i will be using the stock wiring. I might end up running new wires for the components though. I doubt the stocks have enough wire to help me achieve that.

As for the XTC Baffles, is it really necessary? Several installers say it's not necessary especially with the newer cars due to the good insulation of the doors and such.

Btw, where in SW Houston are you at?

emax95, changing the speakers will definitely sound better even with a stock headunit. then of course, changing the headunit will sound much-much better too!

Y2KMaxGXE-R, that's a good rate they quoted you. I called Cartoys, A1 and a couple more shops here in Houston and they range from $100 for all four (front components and rear spkrs) to $150 for just the front components.

I would have gone with BestBuy but after what they did to a previous install on my last car... i'd rather skip them altogether.

 

Hey fellas...

Dunno if this'll help... Bought the Bose speaker brackets from oem-car-parts.com shipping is free... It took 2 weeks to arrive in Hawaii, when I looked the invoice it said shipped UPS ground... well no wonder...

Anyway, the kenwoods i got fit nicely on the bracket and the bracket fit perfectly on the door.




kden,
bp

 

Hey pinakbet,

What size speakers are you using? Since I'm having so many problems getting my speakers to fit, I might do the same thing. Also, how did you mount the speakers to the brackets?

 

Soundmike,

How are you going to cut speaker mounts from wood? I'm kind of interested in making speaker mounts, but it seems like a lot of work. I might get the oem speaker mounts from oem-car-parts.

I'm at 59 and the Beltway just north of Sugar-land. Maybe we can work together and install the speakers on both of our cars. I have the power tools so you won't have to rent them. I plan to do all of this on the weekend before Christmas. My amps should arrive before then

I called 3 places looking for speaker baffles and none of them carried them. They all said they don't use them either. I'm using them because I installed the speaker without a baffle, then a week later I took it out and the magnet was wet. I had left the passive crossover in the door space to hide it, and it was wet too. For $15, it's worth it to me to have the baffles.

 

Hey, are you by any chance a Filipino? Your username kinda gives it away -yummm

 

Tanman,

I'll probably have to saw it. Wood might be too heavy so MDF boards or something similar would be better... however they don't hold up well with moisture so at this point i'm not sure. Waiting on an answer to your question about that medite thingy.

59 and Beltway you say? I'm at 59 and Kirby.

Darn, you getting those amps + rewiring everything + offering to do it together makes me want to get amps myself.

Yep, seems no one uses those baffles, i just remembered that when i had my previous car the speakers did get wet a lot of times even going through a carwash. I'll go over to Crutchfield and get me some. Hopefully the X-Mas rush won't delay shipping.

- Mike

 

Hmm.. i just checked out OEM-Parts.com and it seems those are brackets for people with the Bose system. I wonder if these work for non-Bose systems too?

 

Dude, the 4 brackets together cost $32. That's not cheap for brackets. Also, I don't know how you'd mount new speakers to the brackets. Are there holes for screws in the bracket? I know on my stock non-bose speakers, the woofer was molded with the plastic as one piece. From the illustration, it looks like the brackets might be good for any speakers.

Since the Crutchfield Schoche mounting rings are $15 for a set of 2, that's not much cheaper than the OEM ones. Also the schoche ones don't fit that great. Decisions, decisions.

 

Tanmann,

They're not cheap alright. I called up some Nissan dealers and they're even offering it for more than that ($13.95 each).

If all else fails i guess we can always go with Punkdork's solution of modifying the stock speakers (e.g. tear it apart) and use it as a bracket.

By the way, is it me or is it just really hard to take the panels off the door?

I wanted to try playing with just one bracket this afternoon but i just couldn't pry the door panels from the bottom.

I'm afraid i might break something (or my hands first, that plastic is sharp!)

 

Yup, I'm filipino... get down w/ the brown... hehe

Anyway, I don't have the bose system. Initially, I made some wooden brackets for a pair of 6 3/4. It worked, but I think it vibrated a lot. When I took it apart, the brackets were cracked. The Bose brackets has 4 holes to mount your speaker to. It does not come w/ screws. But your aftermarket speakers should. 6 1/2s will fit better than the 6 3/4 I think.

About the baffles, if you look at the bose bracket, it has a shield for the speaker. If water does trickle down, the bracket will keep your speakers dry. Water does get in... Before the bose brackets, some metal filings stuck to the magnet on my Kenwoods, I didn't bother taking them off when I mounted the speakers to the new brackets, i noticed the filings were rusted.

The bose bracket looks exactly the same as the clarion speakers except w/o the speaker, and w/ that shield thingy. I gave the stock clarions to my cousin... thank goodness otherwise I'd feel like its a waste.

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~bryanp

there's some pics of the wooden bracket. I'll take pix of the bose brackets later tonite.

kden,
bp

 

Hey pinakbet,

Will 5.25 speakers fit in the rear brackets? I really hope so, since I already bought 5.25s for the rear speaker replacements. Maybe I'll stick with the mounts I have on the rear doors...

 

Hey, in case you're interested. I have a set of:

Infinity Reference 605cs (components)
Infinity Reference 652i

Both are 6.5", one speaker of each set has a small tear on it, i managed to fix one of them using superglue but it's untested. Only if you know how to repair them and make some use of it or can use them as a bracket i can give it to you. I already got the replacements from Infinity last week.

- Mike

P.S. Btw, did you find it hard taking the panels off?

 

Hey, thanks for the offer. I have the 605cs for the fronts and the 532i for the rears. The scosche adapters work ok for the rear speakers, so I'll stick with them. I'm going to get the oem adapters for the front speakers. Cool that Infinity replaced the speakers for you. The door panels were pretty easy to take off. Of course, I have Crutchfield instructions. I'm emailing scans of them to two other forum guys. If you want them, let me know.

Tan

 

Sweet! You've been in Hawaii all these years or just recently? I've been here for only a couple of years

Anyhow, thanks for the pics! I'm looking forward to the rest of it. MIght order those baffles tomorrow if i can't find it cheaper elsewhere.

Thanks!