300hp w/o mods?!?!?
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300hp w/o mods?!?!?
I was speaking with my friend who has a friend that knows some mechanic at Nissan. He told me that his friend has a 2k maxima who got his engine "tweaked" WITHOUT adding any mods and got his car up to 300hp. Is this really possible? IF so, what do you do?
I asked what the mechanic did to the car. He didnt know and told me to go to Nissan and ask the mechanic. Anyone hear anything similar to this?
I asked what the mechanic did to the car. He didnt know and told me to go to Nissan and ask the mechanic. Anyone hear anything similar to this?
Oh, no its possible.
How to "tweak" your Maxima:
1. Remove the engine
2. Build custom engine mounts
3. Drop an 8.0 litre, alumninum block, V-10 from Chrysler into it
Disclaimer: you may have to remove the passenger compartment in order to achieve step 3. The resulting Maxima would produce 450hp at the flywheel...certainly one could expect 300hp at the front wheels.
WARNING: Do not attempt to drive a Maxima after the above modification. Personally, I wouldn't even start the sucker up.
Disclaimer #2: Anyone who tries this, in addition to be stupid, take full responsibility for the result of their actions and must invite me to take pictures.
1. Remove the engine
2. Build custom engine mounts
3. Drop an 8.0 litre, alumninum block, V-10 from Chrysler into it
Disclaimer: you may have to remove the passenger compartment in order to achieve step 3. The resulting Maxima would produce 450hp at the flywheel...certainly one could expect 300hp at the front wheels.
WARNING: Do not attempt to drive a Maxima after the above modification. Personally, I wouldn't even start the sucker up.
Disclaimer #2: Anyone who tries this, in addition to be stupid, take full responsibility for the result of their actions and must invite me to take pictures.
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Re: Oh, no its possible.
Originally posted by Michael98033
How to "tweak" your Maxima:
1. Remove the engine
2. Build custom engine mounts
3. Drop an 8.0 litre, alumninum block, V-10 from Chrysler into it
Disclaimer: you may have to remove the passenger compartment in order to achieve step 3. The resulting Maxima would produce 450hp at the flywheel...certainly one could expect 300hp at the front wheels.
WARNING: Do not attempt to drive a Maxima after the above modification. Personally, I wouldn't even start the sucker up.
Disclaimer #2: Anyone who tries this, in addition to be stupid, take full responsibility for the result of their actions and must invite me to take pictures.
How to "tweak" your Maxima:
1. Remove the engine
2. Build custom engine mounts
3. Drop an 8.0 litre, alumninum block, V-10 from Chrysler into it
Disclaimer: you may have to remove the passenger compartment in order to achieve step 3. The resulting Maxima would produce 450hp at the flywheel...certainly one could expect 300hp at the front wheels.
WARNING: Do not attempt to drive a Maxima after the above modification. Personally, I wouldn't even start the sucker up.
Disclaimer #2: Anyone who tries this, in addition to be stupid, take full responsibility for the result of their actions and must invite me to take pictures.
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Originally posted by crzyballa33
so basically....NO ITS NOT POSSIBLE
but this guy (my friend) is not someone that talks bs
he knows his stuff about cars
so basically....NO ITS NOT POSSIBLE
but this guy (my friend) is not someone that talks bs
he knows his stuff about cars
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well i used the word "tweak"
He couldve done anything to the engine. I have no idea.
If the guy was some kind of engineer, im sure it would still be something timely and costly, but 300hp without mods sounded could so i thought i would ask some of you smart peeps in here. Before i wasted my time though asking around, what could possibly be done to an engine to add ANY power without mod'ing it?
He couldve done anything to the engine. I have no idea.
If the guy was some kind of engineer, im sure it would still be something timely and costly, but 300hp without mods sounded could so i thought i would ask some of you smart peeps in here. Before i wasted my time though asking around, what could possibly be done to an engine to add ANY power without mod'ing it?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't ANY change from stock...
by definition a modification (or 'mod')? Pretty sure a rebuild would count too...and even if not, there is so much work to that process it hardly counts as a 'tweak'.
Even to get 10 hp SOMETHING is done to the engine...whether you call it a mod or not....
If a non-mod tweak really existed it would either be one hell of a magic fuel or we all suddenly have the ability to 'think' our cars into being more powerful...
If this guy HAS stumbled upon something amazing, we have GOT to find out...but it is very doubtful it was a non-mod tweak or something...
Even to get 10 hp SOMETHING is done to the engine...whether you call it a mod or not....
If a non-mod tweak really existed it would either be one hell of a magic fuel or we all suddenly have the ability to 'think' our cars into being more powerful...
If this guy HAS stumbled upon something amazing, we have GOT to find out...but it is very doubtful it was a non-mod tweak or something...
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Either people are reading wayyy too into this thread or I'm not being clear. Ok i agree that something done to the engine is a "mod" possibly the engine was rebuilt. but apparently nothing was ADDED to the engine as far as ex. intake, ypipe, pulleys. using the exisiting engine, this guy supposedly reconfigured if u would, the engine to get 300hp.
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If that is still what appears to be done...
by all means ask around!!!!
Originally posted by crzyballa33
Either people are reading wayyy too into this thread or I'm not being clear. Ok i agree that something done to the engine is a "mod" possibly the engine was rebuilt. but apparently nothing was ADDED to the engine as far as ex. intake, ypipe, pulleys. using the exisiting engine, this guy supposedly reconfigured if u would, the engine to get 300hp.
Either people are reading wayyy too into this thread or I'm not being clear. Ok i agree that something done to the engine is a "mod" possibly the engine was rebuilt. but apparently nothing was ADDED to the engine as far as ex. intake, ypipe, pulleys. using the exisiting engine, this guy supposedly reconfigured if u would, the engine to get 300hp.
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Just a thought, but if the 3.0L VQ could be readily made to produce 300 HP, why did Nissan have to redesign it into a 3.5L version for the 2k2 Max and Alty? Both of those engines produce considerably less HP than 300 and with a larger version of 3.0
However, if for some reason it is true (which seems unlikely, although I will admit being wrong), we have GOT to find out how
However, if for some reason it is true (which seems unlikely, although I will admit being wrong), we have GOT to find out how
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Originally posted by djmaxski
Just a thought, but if the 3.0L VQ could be readily made to produce 300 HP, why did Nissan have to redesign it into a 3.5L version for the 2k2 Max and Alty? Both of those engines produce considerably less HP than 300 and with a larger version of 3.0
However, if for some reason it is true (which seems unlikely, although I will admit being wrong), we have GOT to find out how
Just a thought, but if the 3.0L VQ could be readily made to produce 300 HP, why did Nissan have to redesign it into a 3.5L version for the 2k2 Max and Alty? Both of those engines produce considerably less HP than 300 and with a larger version of 3.0
However, if for some reason it is true (which seems unlikely, although I will admit being wrong), we have GOT to find out how
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Man, that sounds like a story that I just heard the other night. Some friends and I were BS'ng about the increase across the board in HP this year, when Mike claimed to have a friend who has a friend that owns a Cavalier and he knows a Chevy service geek that tweaked his engine without adding anything to it, to bump it up over 330HP.
After a couple of more beers I discovered that the Chevy service geek owns a Camero SS and he took out the air filter to make 330HP. What the ***k does this have to do with your friends Cavalier? I asked. Nothing he replied, but it's amazing how much HP the camero has... sheesh!
After a couple of more beers I discovered that the Chevy service geek owns a Camero SS and he took out the air filter to make 330HP. What the ***k does this have to do with your friends Cavalier? I asked. Nothing he replied, but it's amazing how much HP the camero has... sheesh!
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Wasnt the VQ30DE supose to be a race engine? I'm not believing this mechanic, but im talkin about if it was, how did they tweak it down? Less agressive cams, different displacement? Im thinking something like the European E36 M3 and the US E36 M3.
Maybe he didn't add anything to the engine to get more power. He has discovered an amazing principle that none of us have considered:
Instead of ADDing parts, we should SUBTRACT parts! Think of the possibilities!
Instead of ADDing parts, we should SUBTRACT parts! Think of the possibilities!
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The VQ30DE was powering a Lola race car in the Le Mans and it won in its class. So I'm pretty sure its possible that the VQ can attain high horsepower but at what cost? I doubt it would be 'tame' enough to be used as a daily driver and or even meet emissisions regulations.
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Originally posted by mAdD MAX
The VQ30DE was powering a Lola race car in the Le Mans and it won in its class. So I'm pretty sure its possible that the VQ can attain high horsepower but at what cost? I doubt it would be 'tame' enough to be used as a daily driver and or even meet emissisions regulations.
The VQ30DE was powering a Lola race car in the Le Mans and it won in its class. So I'm pretty sure its possible that the VQ can attain high horsepower but at what cost? I doubt it would be 'tame' enough to be used as a daily driver and or even meet emissisions regulations.
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Must have swapped
He probably swapped a GT-R engine into his Maxima, plus he upgraded the turbos and is using NOS. I know a guy who swapped a Ferrari engine into his Maxima and now has 550HP. It's pretty quick.
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i talked with the guy today for like 5 minutes
he seemed like he knew wut he was talking about, but was using a LOT of technical terms, something with the tthe belts and rpms ratio blah blah
it was a quick discussion
i didnt hav time to really sit down and hav him explain
probably by tomorrow ill find out
he seemed like he knew wut he was talking about, but was using a LOT of technical terms, something with the tthe belts and rpms ratio blah blah
it was a quick discussion
i didnt hav time to really sit down and hav him explain
probably by tomorrow ill find out
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Re: 300hp w/o mods?!?!?
Originally posted by crzyballa33
I was speaking with my friend who has a friend that knows some mechanic at Nissan. He told me that his friend has a 2k maxima who got his engine "tweaked" WITHOUT adding any mods and got his car up to 300hp. Is this really possible? IF so, what do you do?
I asked what the mechanic did to the car. He didnt know and told me to go to Nissan and ask the mechanic. Anyone hear anything similar to this?
I was speaking with my friend who has a friend that knows some mechanic at Nissan. He told me that his friend has a 2k maxima who got his engine "tweaked" WITHOUT adding any mods and got his car up to 300hp. Is this really possible? IF so, what do you do?
I asked what the mechanic did to the car. He didnt know and told me to go to Nissan and ask the mechanic. Anyone hear anything similar to this?
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No one is sayin it's not possible, but the "mechanic" is claiming no mods. lol.
Plus 255hp to 300hp na is gonna require ecu mods for sure. How is that this mechanic is able to crack Nissan ecu codes and burn a new ecu so fast? JWT hasn't been able to get past the 1997' Maxima ecus.
300hp is not out of the question but 300hp w/ no mods is. Plus who knows if it still passes emissions even if this highly unlikey car even exists.
Plus the poster is claiming the mechanic has done only enternal work. The last time I checked, that falls under the "mods" dept. Whole thread doesn't make sense.
Plus 255hp to 300hp na is gonna require ecu mods for sure. How is that this mechanic is able to crack Nissan ecu codes and burn a new ecu so fast? JWT hasn't been able to get past the 1997' Maxima ecus.
300hp is not out of the question but 300hp w/ no mods is. Plus who knows if it still passes emissions even if this highly unlikey car even exists.
Plus the poster is claiming the mechanic has done only enternal work. The last time I checked, that falls under the "mods" dept. Whole thread doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
VQ30DE is an excellent platform to achieve 300hp @ crank.
Internally, from the factory we have work done that Honda guys pay for an engine builder to do. Shotpeening, polishing, and molydbneum coating on all moving parts.
The cams on the car are not agressive at all, they are quite conservative, considering the power output of 190-227hp. The fuel system and ECU compliment the car well giving excellent throttle response, and excellent power output. The tranny is the only weak link.(Its a family sedan.)
In all do honesty aggressive profile cams w/ matched ECU, upgraded fuel System, and still provide enough vacuum to run accessories isn't all that out of question, w/ cams and ECU Tuning you can make the powerband broad and powerful from mid range to top end, bottom end may suffer, but in the quest of 300hp @ crank, I'm pretty sure its possible. Redline to 7000-7200 should provide excellent power band usage.
Now, that I've spoken, and not liked by some on this forum, you know who the hell you are...start flaming me.
VQ30DE is an excellent platform to achieve 300hp @ crank.
Internally, from the factory we have work done that Honda guys pay for an engine builder to do. Shotpeening, polishing, and molydbneum coating on all moving parts.
The cams on the car are not agressive at all, they are quite conservative, considering the power output of 190-227hp. The fuel system and ECU compliment the car well giving excellent throttle response, and excellent power output. The tranny is the only weak link.(Its a family sedan.)
In all do honesty aggressive profile cams w/ matched ECU, upgraded fuel System, and still provide enough vacuum to run accessories isn't all that out of question, w/ cams and ECU Tuning you can make the powerband broad and powerful from mid range to top end, bottom end may suffer, but in the quest of 300hp @ crank, I'm pretty sure its possible. Redline to 7000-7200 should provide excellent power band usage.
Now, that I've spoken, and not liked by some on this forum, you know who the hell you are...start flaming me.