View Poll Results: Do you have wheel spacers installed on your Max?
I have stock wheels and use spacers
15
22.39%
I have aftermarket wheels and use spacers
9
13.43%
No spacers at all
43
64.18%
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Poll, do you use spacers?
Poll, do you use spacers?
I'm curious how many of you run spacers, and if you do, do yoiu have OEM of aftermarket wheels?
If you post, it would be cool if you do have spacers to say how many mm in size they are
If you post, it would be cool if you do have spacers to say how many mm in size they are
Not anymore, but when I ran the OEM SE 17s, I had H&R TRAK 15mm spacers in the rear. Pretty good fit, could've probably done the 20 with no issues.
Now with the Z33 Tracks and before with the G35 18s, I can't run spacers because the offsets fix the problem.
Now with the Z33 Tracks and before with the G35 18s, I can't run spacers because the offsets fix the problem.
15mm Rear 5mm Front on stock wheels
but I wanna but 10 or 15mm on the front now
pics here-http://forums.maxima.org/7820605-post23.html
but I wanna but 10 or 15mm on the front now
pics here-http://forums.maxima.org/7820605-post23.html
I'm also running 5 / 15 mm (F/R) H&R spacers with stock SE rims. I wanted a bit more clearance in front for my 6th gen BBK, and I actually wish I would have gone 20 mm in the rear. But I just picked up a set of V1 Track rims, so I'm not sure if I'll use spacers anymore (during the summer months).
Last edited by tcb_02_max; Nov 21, 2010 at 04:13 PM.
So does it increase torque steer/wheel hop like some claim?
I've got 245/45s on the stock SE 17"s. I like the look of the large tire bulging off the, what, 8 inch wide wheel? Putting 245s on your rears will fix that flat, off-putting Subaru look you have going on there "Mr. Brett."
I've got 245/45s on the stock SE 17"s. I like the look of the large tire bulging off the, what, 8 inch wide wheel? Putting 245s on your rears will fix that flat, off-putting Subaru look you have going on there "Mr. Brett."
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i installed the 5mm front spacers wed night, had a nice 2 hrs of driving yesterday.. and to answer anyones question which I had before I installed..
when u use Hubcentric Ring Adapters for aftermarket wheels, the rings still fit around the original hub with the 5mm spacers.
Impressions
-the front end feels a little softer/sloppier (also read about this)
-the steering wheel feels like you have to turn it a little more than what you would originally have to turn the wheels the same amount . with that said the steering wheel feels slopier/loose not as tight as before (note I have the LTB stage II so the turning is/was tight as hell)
- Light Cornering has improved, in other words it feels alot easier to turn a circle in a parking lot
-Hard Cornering feels different and cannot comment fully yet until its dry out.
-In my case I have 20mm in the rear, which IIRC that made the track widths close to equal front to back, reducing the stock understeer to whatever % u can imagine. Now in theory with the 5mm in the front the track width in the front track is wider again. Im not sure what to say on that as its been to short, driving an hour today so will report back.
-Diving on mountainous curvy roads you could feel definately feel it as it was a little more anxious in a way to turn.
-Please note these where 5mm and everything mentioned was in a scale of 5mm so very little but noticable if you are as in tune with my car as I am.
- Also note I never wrote about my impressions on the 20mm rear spacers, but its been so long now and feels like the normal to me, and there are alot of reviews on rear spacers.
when u use Hubcentric Ring Adapters for aftermarket wheels, the rings still fit around the original hub with the 5mm spacers.
Impressions
-the front end feels a little softer/sloppier (also read about this)
-the steering wheel feels like you have to turn it a little more than what you would originally have to turn the wheels the same amount . with that said the steering wheel feels slopier/loose not as tight as before (note I have the LTB stage II so the turning is/was tight as hell)
- Light Cornering has improved, in other words it feels alot easier to turn a circle in a parking lot
-Hard Cornering feels different and cannot comment fully yet until its dry out.
-In my case I have 20mm in the rear, which IIRC that made the track widths close to equal front to back, reducing the stock understeer to whatever % u can imagine. Now in theory with the 5mm in the front the track width in the front track is wider again. Im not sure what to say on that as its been to short, driving an hour today so will report back.
-Diving on mountainous curvy roads you could feel definately feel it as it was a little more anxious in a way to turn.
-Please note these where 5mm and everything mentioned was in a scale of 5mm so very little but noticable if you are as in tune with my car as I am.
- Also note I never wrote about my impressions on the 20mm rear spacers, but its been so long now and feels like the normal to me, and there are alot of reviews on rear spacers.
10mm rear, 5mm front
18x8.5 all round, +33
17x7, +40, 10mm in front, 15mm in rear.
17x8, +45, 15 in rear, 5 in front.
No spacers:
At one point I had +15 in the rear with the Z33 wheels, and it was good, I then changed tires, NOT SIZE, and OMG, the handling was horrific. I guess it was just a brand thing since the new tires were a lot wider. So I went ahead and got the 10mm to fix it, and it did, handling that I was used to returned.
I took some more today showing the 10fr/15 rear in stock form, I'll upload later.
Oh yeah, H&R's for all 3 of my sets.
18x8.5 all round, +33
17x7, +40, 10mm in front, 15mm in rear.
17x8, +45, 15 in rear, 5 in front.
No spacers:
At one point I had +15 in the rear with the Z33 wheels, and it was good, I then changed tires, NOT SIZE, and OMG, the handling was horrific. I guess it was just a brand thing since the new tires were a lot wider. So I went ahead and got the 10mm to fix it, and it did, handling that I was used to returned.
I took some more today showing the 10fr/15 rear in stock form, I'll upload later.
Oh yeah, H&R's for all 3 of my sets.
I'm about to put on 18' Rays Eng wheels and I have 20mm spacers (rear). Should I take them off before throwing the wheels on there?
EDIT: nevermind, I just saw that pic Nmex posted w/ 10mm (rear) on Rays eng, so I'm definitely taking off my 20mm.
EDIT: nevermind, I just saw that pic Nmex posted w/ 10mm (rear) on Rays eng, so I'm definitely taking off my 20mm.
Last edited by Nexus67; Mar 11, 2011 at 05:41 PM.
thats interesting nmexmax, it seems like you achieved nothing but positives from the front spacers. any negatives you recognized? like squirellyness?
after a long drive to the poconos this weekend some things I noticed.
-The anxious "turn in" is probably the largest thing I noticed in hard cornering. Its pretty nice it just feels like its 1 step ahead going into a corner.
-Long sweeping high way turns haven't been all that different as of yet.
- Definately a little more squirelly with the spacers up front especially braking.
after a long drive to the poconos this weekend some things I noticed.
-The anxious "turn in" is probably the largest thing I noticed in hard cornering. Its pretty nice it just feels like its 1 step ahead going into a corner.
-Long sweeping high way turns haven't been all that different as of yet.
- Definately a little more squirelly with the spacers up front especially braking.
thats interesting nmexmax, it seems like you achieved nothing but positives from the front spacers. any negatives you recognized? like squirellyness?
after a long drive to the poconos this weekend some things I noticed.
-The anxious "turn in" is probably the largest thing I noticed in hard cornering. Its pretty nice it just feels like its 1 step ahead going into a corner.
-Long sweeping high way turns haven't been all that different as of yet.
- Definately a little more squirelly with the spacers up front especially braking.
after a long drive to the poconos this weekend some things I noticed.
-The anxious "turn in" is probably the largest thing I noticed in hard cornering. Its pretty nice it just feels like its 1 step ahead going into a corner.
-Long sweeping high way turns haven't been all that different as of yet.
- Definately a little more squirelly with the spacers up front especially braking.
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I have the Z33 track edition 18" and use 15MM spacers on the 18x8.5s in the rear and use the 18x8 in the front. Still feel like I'd rather have 20-25MM in the rear, but would need fender rolling for sure.
Also depends on the tire, since my Continentals were fine w/15 in the rear, but then I went w/ Yokos and had to go back to 10mm because of the horrid rubbing and squirliness.
Also, I need to recenter my beam since now w/the 10's, only 1 side rubs on harsh bumps.
Bumpage.
I was gonna replace my 20mm (rear) in the back w/ 10mm. But now I'm thinking of just removing the 20mm (rear) and keeping the longer studs on (while running the 18in Rays).
Would the 350z lugs still be sufficient?
I was gonna replace my 20mm (rear) in the back w/ 10mm. But now I'm thinking of just removing the 20mm (rear) and keeping the longer studs on (while running the 18in Rays).
Would the 350z lugs still be sufficient?
Only one way to find out. I think they might be too long and not allow you to tighten your wheel. Might need different lug nuts, longer.
Since my last post I was considering 5mm (rear) and switching my 20mm back on when winter rolls back around (where I'd be running stock 17in again)
Perhaps 5mm (rear) won't take up some of that lug length? (In other words, the 350z lugs still may not be long enough even w/ 5mm in the back) I'd buy the 5mm right now if they allowed me to use 350z lugs effectively.
Experiment here we come...
I don't want to run the 20mm spacers w/ the 350z Rays. BUT, I don't want to be completely 'spacerless' either. Reason being: when I put the stock 17's back on I don't want to have the rear wheels 'tucked in' again.
So: if I keep the studs (and just remove the spacer) I can switch back and forth between the two (one: longer studs/no spacer with 350z Rays) (two: current setup; stock wheel/20mm spacer)
I may just do what Nmex max suggested and just get longer lugs.
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Nmex, the first pic looks like the wheels are flush. I have the same size wheels now 18x8.5 but with a 35 offset. i had to do different size spacers for the rear since lowering it sets the axle to the right giving more space to the left side. That being said i have a 8mm on the right and about 19mm on the left and both sides are even. Question for you is did you have the fenders rolled since you are running a 10mm and look flush.
On the post of Prophecys, I added 1.5 inches the wheel width and the offset set the wheels farther out. So what you were saying is the wheel feels sloppier. I notice that as well now. Since my front track is wider than before when i first drove it with the new wheels i was like, the wheel feels less reactive or receptive to input. I have become used to it now but it def was a whoa factor. In all actuality having the 18s instead ofthe 17s now it honestly feels better over bumps. But that could be going from Nexen n3000s to Michelin hxm4s.
On the post of Prophecys, I added 1.5 inches the wheel width and the offset set the wheels farther out. So what you were saying is the wheel feels sloppier. I notice that as well now. Since my front track is wider than before when i first drove it with the new wheels i was like, the wheel feels less reactive or receptive to input. I have become used to it now but it def was a whoa factor. In all actuality having the 18s instead ofthe 17s now it honestly feels better over bumps. But that could be going from Nexen n3000s to Michelin hxm4s.
Nmex, the first pic looks like the wheels are flush. I have the same size wheels now 18x8.5 but with a 35 offset. i had to do different size spacers for the rear since lowering it sets the axle to the right giving more space to the left side. That being said i have a 8mm on the right and about 19mm on the left and both sides are even. Question for you is did you have the fenders rolled since you are running a 10mm and look flush.
And I have never thought of that, but different size spacers is a good idea since I'm in the same boat and one side is further out than the other.
Squirrel ran size diff spacers side to side in the back to fix the uncentered beam flushness in the back. Some people didnt like the idea but It didn't seemall that bad idea especially being the the back.
Looks great Jeff especially the front. Some of the best wheels for our cars.
Nexus look into open ended lug nuts! that should solve your issues, unless the extended studs are hitting something else like a center cap or something.
I also would like to note. I just swaped into my aftermarket wheels onto the 5mm spacers up front with stock studs(also note the aftermarket wheels have open ended lugs). Its been ok for a few weeks now but its kinda scary considering the amount of turns I got on the lugs. I am going to check them again before a long trip this weekend. I got 5-1/2 turns with the lugs
....... for comparison of course I didn't count how many I got on the oem wheels/lugs.
I searched alot on it that day, and it seemed like this was the general answer
from o1marc
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/83863-...uts-oh-my.html
next question what is the size of our stock studs? i only remember the 14 Knurl
Looks great Jeff especially the front. Some of the best wheels for our cars.
Nexus look into open ended lug nuts! that should solve your issues, unless the extended studs are hitting something else like a center cap or something.
I also would like to note. I just swaped into my aftermarket wheels onto the 5mm spacers up front with stock studs(also note the aftermarket wheels have open ended lugs). Its been ok for a few weeks now but its kinda scary considering the amount of turns I got on the lugs. I am going to check them again before a long trip this weekend. I got 5-1/2 turns with the lugs
....... for comparison of course I didn't count how many I got on the oem wheels/lugs.I searched alot on it that day, and it seemed like this was the general answer
The correct answer, and you may not like it, the nut show go as far onto the stud as its thickness. So you should grab at least 12mm in length on a 12mm stud regardless of the pitch. A 12mmx1.25 will have more threads covered and be stronger than the same on a 12mmx1.5 but both exceed the requirements for safe torque. I measured 5 complete turns on a 12mmx1.5, I dont have a 12mmx1.25 to check with but you should measure the twelve mm length and then thread a nut on to that mark and count the turns to know. I see race wheels with a 4" stud and the nut on with 1-1/2' of stud exposed , this is no stronger than if no threads were exposed.
I just realized this thread is 6 years old, but it will help others with the same question.
I just realized this thread is 6 years old, but it will help others with the same question.
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/83863-...uts-oh-my.html
next question what is the size of our stock studs? i only remember the 14 Knurl
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Sorry for bringing back an old thread, but I need some help and have some questions about spacers. I have a 2003 Maxima SE Titanium Edition. The car has the stock wheels(OEM) and stock suspension (not lowered). I currently have 5mm Ichiba spacers on the rear which I want to put on the front. I want to put bigger spacers on the rear. Don't want to worry about rubbing so was thinking of going with 15mm or 17mm spacers in the rear.
Will these spacers fit on the rear without having to cut the stock studs? Will yjese just bolt on because I think the stock wheels have indents so if the stud does stick out a little they should still fit. These are the spacers I'm considering for the rear.
Will they fit with no problems? Thanks again for your responses and again sorry for beating a dead horse.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140463156777...ht_1626wt_1139
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140463157773...ht_1626wt_1139
Will these spacers fit on the rear without having to cut the stock studs? Will yjese just bolt on because I think the stock wheels have indents so if the stud does stick out a little they should still fit. These are the spacers I'm considering for the rear.
Will they fit with no problems? Thanks again for your responses and again sorry for beating a dead horse.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140463156777...ht_1626wt_1139
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140463157773...ht_1626wt_1139
