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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Rear shock mount clarification

In doing some research here I've found that OEM (or Moog) are the way to go for replacing front shock mounts when moving to aftermarket. However, I'm finding conflicting information about the rear. I've seen posts saying that the rears rarely need replacing and that they are different/stronger somehow and others saying they used the KYB ones (even though they are considered garbage for the fronts).

So what's the scoop here.
-Is OEM still the way to go for rear shock mounts, like fronts?
-Is it true they rarely go bad and that I may not need them at all? (120k)
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SeedyROM
In doing some research here I've found that OEM (or Moog) are the way to go for replacing front shock mounts when moving to aftermarket. However, I'm finding conflicting information about the rear. I've seen posts saying that the rears rarely need replacing and that they are different/stronger somehow and others saying they used the KYB ones (even though they are considered garbage for the fronts).

So what's the scoop here.
-Is OEM still the way to go for rear shock mounts, like fronts?
-Is it true they rarely go bad and that I may not need them at all? (120k)
Just replaced my suspension with 120k. Bought rear shock mounts, but didn't need them. It's crazy how well they hold up. Pull one off, you'll see. It takes about 10 minutes to remove one side. No biggie.
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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^That's true for the rear, for the front it's not so easy.

Are they worn or are you looking because you're interested in getting TEIN SS and want to replace them at the same time?
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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Just replaced my suspension with 120k. Bought rear shock mounts, but didn't need them. It's crazy how well they hold up. Pull one off, you'll see. It takes about 10 minutes to remove one side. No biggie.
Thanks nelledge I'll take a look before I order since it appears to be a quick thing. If they look good, I'll save a few bucks which I'll need if I go the coilover route.

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^That's true for the rear, for the front it's not so easy.

Are they worn or are you looking because you're interested in getting TEIN SS and want to replace them at the same time?
I'm not sure if mine are worn but my mechanic seemed sure they would be, but he didn't specify front/back. At this point I'm just trying to gather parts for either a shock/spring upgrade or coilovers pending a few other things. I'm hoping I can get the TEIN set a local guy has but the more I talk to him the more I think they are damaged beyond repair. I can't justify a new set with other expenses I have so I'll see what happens.

Thanks for the input guys!
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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The front is easy. The rear is a pain in the ***. I couldn't get a socket on one of the nuts without taking out several bolts from behind the seat and prying on that stupid cover thing that goes over the top of the mount.
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Hmm...well I'll give it a shot down in the garage but if it becomes a pain I may just wing it and hope mine are in good shape. Worst case I leave it at the shop an extra day while we get the OEM rears.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:49 AM
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The front is easy. The rear is a pain in the ***. I couldn't get a socket on one of the nuts without taking out several bolts from behind the seat and prying on that stupid cover thing that goes over the top of the mount.
I thought you need spring compressors to disassemble the front, and they weren't necessary in the rear?
I haven't done it so I'll just shush on it, that's just from what I remember reading, it's cloudy.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 06:03 AM
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I suggested removing the rear to look at the mounts. No need for a spring compressor just to visually check them. I don't understand why people have a hard time with the rear. (No homo) Besides wedging yourself in the trunk, it's pretty straight forward. Two nuts on top and one bolt at the bottom. Use a 1/4" ratchet with extension and you should be able to access the top nuts fairly easy after you have the side trim pulled out of the way.

As for the front mounts, I would replace them regardless. The bearing at the very least.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
The front is easy. The rear is a pain in the ***. I couldn't get a socket on one of the nuts without taking out several bolts from behind the seat and prying on that stupid cover thing that goes over the top of the mount.
You sir, did not use the correct extension for your socket. I've NEVER removed the shroud except once when I dropped a nut down there

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I thought you need spring compressors to disassemble the front, and they weren't necessary in the rear?
I haven't done it so I'll just shush on it, that's just from what I remember reading, it's cloudy.
You don't need compressors to remove the assembly.

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I suggested removing the rear to look at the mounts. No need for a spring compressor just to visually check them. I don't understand why people have a hard time with the rear. (No homo) Besides wedging yourself in the trunk, it's pretty straight forward. Two nuts on top and one bolt at the bottom. Use a 1/4" ratchet with extension and you should be able to access the top nuts fairly easy after you have the side trim pulled out of the way.

As for the front mounts, I would replace them regardless. The bearing at the very least.
This guy knows what he's talking about

...but if I were replacing bearings, I would replace the mount with it. When you buy Moog's they come with it, so why not.



If you're going the spring/strut route, don't forget about dustboots. Use OEM only. Dustboots are a better 'investment' over rear mounts.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
I thought you need spring compressors to disassemble the front, and they weren't necessary in the rear?
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You don't need compressors to remove the assembly.
Disassemble, not 'remove assembly'. of course you don't need compressors just to take it out.
Thanks for clarifying this for the OP though.

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...but if I were replacing bearings, I would replace the mount with it. When you buy Moog's they come with it, so why not.
Yup, I absolutely agree. It would be silly to replace only the bearing.

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Disassemble, not 'remove assembly'. of course you don't need compressors just to take it out.
Meh, even this is arguable. I often disassemble without spring compressors

But do NOT try this unless you know what you're doing.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Meh, even this is arguable. I often disassemble without spring compressors

But do NOT try this unless you know what you're doing.
For the front? You're a taletned or very brave man.

That's kind of what I was insinuating for the rear, cause the springs aren't as tight you can get away without spring compressors for disassembly. I wouldn't recommend it though.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
For the front? You're a taletned or very brave man.

That's kind of what I was insinuating for the rear, cause the springs aren't as tight you can get away without spring compressors for disassembly. I wouldn't recommend it though.
Ya, for all 4. The trick is to keep a controlled environment. Both front and rear are under preload though, and I don't recommend doing any of them this way unless you know what you're doing.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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I'll just go buy a spring compressor use it and return it (I know, I'm so honest, .....
well I am! I'm telling you guys )
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
I'll just go buy a spring compressor use it and return it (I know, I'm so honest, .....
well I am! I'm telling you guys )
Why don't you just rent one for free from Oreilly's or Autozone? No ethics dilemmas that way.
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Great info guys, much appreciated!
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
Why don't you just rent one for free from Oreilly's or Autozone? No ethics dilemmas that way.
Autozone around here doesn't have them I've searched. The guy at Canadian Tire actually told me to do that last time I needed one. So I wasn't real torn up over it.
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