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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 05:08 AM
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Transmission jerk?

video explains it all.
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u...rrent=jh-1.mp4
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 05:23 AM
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Actually, I'm not sure the video does explain all. What are you trying to show when you put it into gear? It's very dark, and you've got it pointed at the tach. The vibration? I don't really see a jerk, per se.

I will offer this, though. Check your linkage(not cable if it's 5spd). It is really easy to do a visual check for any play in it. Lay on the ground so you can see the linkage connections. Grab the linkage with your hand and try to move it back and forth. It would be even better if you had a friend that could move the shifter while you're under there. The key areas are the linkage fasteners. These often become loose(especially if you've just had work done on the car) and will cause a lot of slop and "transmission" issues. It should take you less time than it did to make the video.
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 06:14 AM
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I watched the video, too. And no, it does not explain it all. IDK what you're going for with the video.

If you're feeling a significant jerk when engaging 1st or Reverse, that could be as simple as having worn out engine torque mount bushings.
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Here is a video i did today, u can clearly hear the noise im talking about, and u really cant see it jerk unless u really look. Then noise goes away if u press in the clutch.
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u...rent=jerrk.mp4

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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk3G
Here is a video i did today, u can clearly hear the noise im talking about, and u really cant see it jerk unless u really look.
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u...rent=jerrk.mp4
More of the same. Clunks and wobble translate very poorly to video. You will need to perform the troubleshooting processes recommended already. It will be difficult for anyone to diagnose it via cell phone grade audio/video. If you are having a clunking noise while at idle it can be anything from the torque converter to the input shaft or anything in between. Have you checked the fluid level?
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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When installing the tranny i noticed the input shaft I could move it side to side and up and down, I didn' know if that was normal or what the fluid should be good, I put about 4.8ths in.
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Did you self install the trans
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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I can't tell from the video either, but I'm watching it from my phone which makes the quality that much worse. But I did see you mention that you have some free play in the shaft and you did mention noise when you are not on the clutch. If it sounds like a grinding noise of some sort, that is usually the input shaft. Used high mileage Trannys usually experience this. Where did you get the replacement and why did you have to replace your old one?
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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There really isn't much play in the shifter, and yes I installed the tranny myself because my old tranny locked up on me, I was in nutral postion but the car was stick in hear in 2nd gear. I Baught the tranny with 84k on it. I'm site I installed the tranny good because I even torqed the tranny to the right specs. It sound more like bearings then gridding

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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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So, you've R&R'd a transmission by yourself, but you still have yet to state whether you have performed an inspection of that linkage. It's very simple. I don't know how those bolts get missed so often, but I'd say the majority of all 5spd Maxima problems after tranny install is the linkage. (Regardless of play in the actual shifter itself.) Do this. Report back.


Edit: I didn't feel like regurgitating information, so I linked this thread for a diagram that should help you to focus on the fasteners I mentioned.

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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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I will put the car back up on jackstands tomarrowmorning and I will report back, when checking the linkage I should just make sure it's tightened all the way?
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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I will put the car back up on jackstands tomarrowmorning and I will report back, when checking the linkage I should just make sure it's tightened all the way?
Yes, use the link I gave with the diagram to assist you. Start with the fasteners on the linkage you had to remove to drop the transmission. I'm betting that's your problem, but let us know what you discover when you're under there.
Old Nov 23, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Ok im not understanding this jerking issue. is it happening when you go to shift into gear or is it when you have it in gear and are depressing the clutch to move? Im a heavy line technician so i rebuild manual trans all the time and your explanation is not very clear. If you were able to move the input shaft hardly at all and are hearing a grinding noise then more than likely your bearings on the back side of the input shaft where it rides on the output shaft are shot. could be a countershaft problem but highly unlikely! Please give me more detail as to the conditions for this happening and what is happening and i should be able to pinpoint the problem for you
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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I was able to move the input shaft up and down and left and right it felt really loose, When i try to move the car i fells like the tranny is jerking all over the place even tho the tranny mount is tightened in, when i move forward or in reverse u can feel it, its in every gear so its not just specifically 1st gear. and when sitting in neutral and let go of the clutch u can hear a noise u can clearly hear in my 2nd video... and if i put the clutch in the noise goes away. it feels as if the clutch isnt lined up with the fly wheel but i didnt have to touch the clutch at all to remove the tranny... in my 2nd video u can clearly hear from 00:14s to 00:21s the noise im talking about.

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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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I will put the car back up on jackstands tomarrowmorning and I will report back, when checking the linkage I should just make sure it's tightened all the way?
It's mid-afternoon on the east coast. Any updates?
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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It's mid-afternoon on the east coast. Any updates?
i couldnt get under the car because the jack i was using the guy took back.
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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i couldnt get under the car because the jack i was using the guy took back.
That sucks. You don't have your Nissan jack? You should pick one of those up as a jic. Have you got a curb nearby? That's another option. Are you stock ride height?
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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That sucks. You don't have your Nissan jack? You should pick one of those up as a jic. Have you got a curb nearby? That's another option. Are you stock ride height?
stock jack is about a inch to short and i got a damn blister on my finger lowering the car to fast . but u just gave me a good idea, ill drive my car on the curb on the end of my drive way and i should have the room to go under.
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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stock jack is about a inch to short and i got a damn blister on my finger lowering the car to fast . but u just gave me a good idea, ill drive my car on the curb on the end of my drive way and i should have the room to go under.
Cool. Just make sure the car is firmly planted and you're not in too close to traffic before crawling under there.
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Your linkage and bushings are beat to hell. Learn to shift, drop the trans, and get new trans mounts while you're at it.
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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what should i use to get to 15 and 27?
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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what should i use to get to 15 and 27?
You should be able to just use a combi wrench if I remember correctly. Your 22 and 28 bolts are tight?
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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You should be able to just use a combi wrench if I remember correctly. Your 22 and 28 bolts are tight?
its deff not linkage there all tight, after making sure they where tight i tried driving the car down the street and i didn't wanna go more then 20 feet since it started to make a weird squeaking noise and everything in the front end where the tranny is starting to jump and jerk. i think i will just some1 come in and look at it since i really don't know wtf it is, my guess is clutch

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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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its deff not linkage there all tight, after making sure they where tight i tried driving the car down the street and i didn't wanna go more then 20 feet since it started to make a weird squeaking noise and everything in the front end where the tranny is starting to jump and jerk. i think i will just some1 come in and look at it since i really don't know wtf it is
Well, sorry to hear that. I was really hoping it was a linkage issue. Not to add insult to injury, but did you examine the replacement transmission for issues before installing? I think I read that you noticed a lot of play in the input shaft? If that's correct, I hope you got a guarantee of at least a couple months. If it's not external, you might as well use the long weekend to drop the transmission again.
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Your input shaft bearings are shot. When you put it in gear its is torquing sideways and not engaging the gears on the counter shaft correctly so the are binding and jumping. Helical cut gears do not work correctly at all unless properly aligned with each other.
Its also a very clear indication of an input shaft bearing when you let the clutch out in neutral and it makes noise. Did you make sure there was a pilot bearing in your flywheel or crankshaft? that can cause issues but shouldnt be the cause of this.
Hate to say it but you need to drop that tranny and either rebuild it or purchase a new one.
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:05 AM
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i chose to rebuild my first tranny, and the guy thats rebuilding the old tranny is buying the "newer" tranny for the price i got it for, so really no loss since i got to fix so many other things since i was under the car taking the tranny out. thats guys for the the feedback
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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So what ended up being wrong??
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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So what ended up being wrong??
Basicly everything you said in your last post. i had a feeling it was that too. i should have my max back this saterday, I was told ever syncroles was bad and i had to replace it, there where more parts but i forgot ($300 in parts). i only remebered about the syncroles because how the hell does ever syncrole basically go bad... and was told that all 4 main bearings in the tranny that where replaced where cheap and have to replace them too, and something to do with a tower... idk i forgot ill let u guys know exactly everything that was bad in my first tranny.

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