Hey guys, so here's the story. I'm hoping to score a set of Brembo Rotors and Calipers off a Mitsubishi Evo IX. By scoring I mean dirt cheap. So I was wondering, Whats needed to make them work? I know the hand break setup is different on the rears. So, has anyone ever done these? I've tried to search and this is the closest I found.

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ease-step.html

Any suggestions/recommendation will be appreciated. Please dont offer me getting a brand new BBK kit retailing over $800, I'll laugh at your post. The only reason Im considering doing these is because of the ridiculous price Im getting them for.

This is for all 4 wheels? If so, on the front you will need some kind of brackets made up to fit the calipers on those bigger rotors on the front. On the rear is a TOTALLY different story. The only rear BBK for the 5th gen that I know of WAS from Matt Blehm and he used the 300z calipers and from what he said it was a real PITA to make because of the e-brake and the way the rears are configured. I don't know man, the whole Brembo brake kit might be cheap, but making it fit may take even more cash than you paid for the kit itself. I'm not really into buying parts then figuring out later how to make them fit. I usually do the other way around, find a part that fits and then buy it. Lets see what the experts have to say.....but anything can be done if you have enough money.

I agree with ranmas here, you could make the fronts work just need some brackets made shouldn't be that big of a deal. But forget it on the rears.

So even the fronts would need custom caliper brackets? Can't see this being worth it at all regardless of the how cheap you get the wrong fitting parts for.

The front has been done by using Evo calipers and 6th gen 12.6" maxima rotors on a 5.5 gen.
Here you go
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...rembo-bbk.html

I was in the same situation as you, i got them off a evo 9 for low price almost free, so i sent them out to get powercoated and my uncle and i custom made the brackets our self, made out of steel it took some time but we made them perfect and they fit on the car like if they were made for maxima, and its on a cobra 13.1" rotor the difference is night and day, mind you this has to be one of the best mods done i had the wildwood bbk on before putting theses on , wildwood is also very good and strong .

This was my old setup 12.6 maxima rotor and wildwood bbk.

^^junito them ****s is sexy sexy bro

^thats what my face looked like when he came to my block lol

yea this max is money

Any more pictures of that set-up especially of the brackets?

^ Get that Maxima off of those rubber bands, and give it a nice spacer in the front, and it'll look worlds better.

The brackets look like a dog bone. Sort of. You can make them out of steel or aluminum. Aluminum is probably your better bet...a bit more expensive, but they won't rust or oxidize as easily.

As far as a BBK goes, there's really no reason to mess with the rears, unless you're planning on tracking the car. Putting the Brembos just up front will make your car feel worlds better.

That's exactly what I'm planning on doing with my G coupe if I keep it. Brembos up front, stockers in the back.

Now if you really want to do an impressive BBK setup, I suggest buying a set of Akebono calipers off of the G37s.

No point in doing rears, all the stopping power goes to the front. But i wonder could you g37 calipers?

I'm sure you could with the right brackets. You might need bigger rims, though. I doubt the stock 17's on the 5.5's would work.

The only time you should ever consider doing the rears is if you're actually going to track the car. In that case, you'd want bigger rears to balance out the understeer issue created by having bigger front brakes and tiny rears. But for day-to-day driving, where the car doesn't (shouldn't?) be seeing over 100 MPH, just the front is fine.

Don't forget about the wheels. +30 offset, I believe.

Hey, look. Roy's back from the dead.

I've seen posts from Matt Blehm and various articles on the internet from pros that say the rear brakes DO actually do something. I also heard you have to be careful on BBKs because some of them throw the braking balance way off and the fronts will do way more work than the rears and that isn't safe. I don't know if the Brembo brakes will throw that off.

Here is a quote from Matt from his webpage:

"Some of the other kits out there (Stillen, Fastbrakes, Precision, etc) use different piston sizes in their calipers that will affect brake bias considerably. Please check with me before purchasing and be ready to do some measuring of your calipers (or have the part numbers ready for the calipers so I can look them up.)
I have talked with Fastbrakes and confirmed the piston sizes on their calipers--their systems will work wonderfully with my rear BBK. I have yet to confirm this with other kits.
If you buy this kit for other front systems, the worst you will have to do is install a $50 brake bias adjuster from Wilwood or Tilton to make this kit run on your car. Simply be very careful about locking up the rear brakes until you have adjusted the bias to fit your system."

Some more articles on the internet:

"For street use, some cars can stop shorter from adding big brake kit but some cars will actually lose braking performance! The engineers who designed your car made the brake system according to the day-day changing weight and balance of the car (fuel load, passengers and cargo, etc), suspension settings, and the stock tires. Again, as a rough theory, each tire should reach the limit of traction at about the same time to maximize straight line braking. This takes advantage of all available traction on all 4 tires. (To be specific, the stock rear brakes sacrifice some braking performance for better directional control. Skidding rear tires can easily result in loss of control. This is also to account for differences in car weight and balance from different fuel and cargo loads, a shifting center of gravity, front/rear brake bias, and changes in tire/brake setups. With all mk4 and newer VW, the electronic brake distribution in the ABS actually applies the rear brakes first under light braking to reduce dive.) Front brakes are bigger than the rears because under heavy braking, the car's weight shifts onto the front tires and gives them more traction. This lets them apply more braking force before losing traction.
Changing any brake/tire/suspension component from stock will change how the brakes behave during braking. For example, a big brake kit on the front will increase braking at the front tire but this bias and weight shift doesn't let you take advantage of unrealized grip at the rear tires. This could result in longer stopping distances. In some cases, a medium big brake kit will give better braking than the large big brake kit just due to balance! All good brake kits increase braking torque without negatively effecting the bias. Good brake kits should keep about stock pedal travel and be matched to the brake master cylinder. Upsetting the balance of the car also changes braking behavior during turns too. Combined with how well the engineers designed the stock braking system and considering economic considerations with a mass produced car, you might gain performance or you might lose performance with a kit. A sports car might be already tuned from the factory for optimum braking performance. A softly tuned car might have considerable room for improvement over the factory setup.
This doesn't mean that braking feel is unchanged because like brake pads, changing the brake setup changes pedal feel, modulation, travel, and lowers rotor/caliper/pad/hub temperatures. Unfortunately, brake feel does not equal shorter braking distance - again, the weight shift, brake bias, etc., are effected by changing the brake setup."

I know everyone wants the BIGGEST FATTEST ROTORS AND 20 PISTON CALIPERS on the front, but just be careful. Don't want anyone to get hurt....

Right. But when you're going up a few small inches in a BBK, say from 12" to 14" rotors, replacing the rears isn't necessarily needed. Now if you're going from a 10" rotor to a 15" rotor, that's a whole different story.

Some people on here have actually had issues with using huge, powerful BBKs on their Maxima, and the ABS engaging because the fronts lock up way, way before the rears do, which can create an unsafe situation.

Best rule of thumb for street use is to use a kit like you did, where you extend the brackets and use OE-spec calipers with bigger rotors, or use a BBK that only increases rotor diameter a couple of inches.

And of course you have Jeff93SE's advice of, when dealing on "our" (not supercars, but Maximas) scale you could actually mix and match front and rear pads to affect the bias without changing the rear.

Aggressive pads in the rear and average/normal pads up front. Not unheard of.

The Maxima IS a supercar. Just ask any guys in the 4th or 6th gen forums. Dunno what could've made you think otherwise.

ohai

So, who makes the brackets for the Evo Brembo calipers?

Pretty sure it was this guy:

http://forums.maxima.org/8300310-post6.html

its a super 4 door sports car, jerk, and dont you forget it

An FWD 4DSC w/ rear beam suspension.

I'm not gunna lie, there is something odd looking with the front wheel fitment/look given the camera angle. Kinda reminds me of how the spare tire looks on the max. Haha, It probably looks fine in person. Otherwise, awesome!

Would you consider making the same brackets for someone else? What would be the cost to make such bracket if you were to fabricate a set?

The inspiration I needed. The fabrication for the brackets in the front shouldn't be too hard. I have a fabricator that's off the chain and the prices are dirt cheap. Thanks. Crazy thing is, I also have the SER wheels. So now I know, both, it can be done, and my SER's will fit. Thanks. By the way, you repping the Puertorro flag way too hard.

No problem bro .. If you got the place to do it, do it . Its worth it.

If i had the time i would deff. do it but now with work and school its really hard to find time to do this. At least you know its possible to do with time and dedication. I did it over the summer time took a few days of making sure everything was 100% but got it done.

For those talking about the way the wheel sits , it only looks that way because of the angel of the picture, the wheels fit almost flush with fender i have 10mm spacers all around i hate the way the SERs sit on a maxima without spacers, here are some better pics of how it sits .

nice

Tires look a little too low profile imo but car looks amazing - brakes even more so.
Maybe black that grill to go with your black theme? Haven't seen this car around personally, hope to though.

oh yea that too

on to the max's fitment w/ the se-r's...everything doesnt have to be flush....i like seeing tucked wheels and i highly enjoy this max as is, unflush/stanced/etc

According to this thread, http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...rembo-bbk.html
vsamlov made the brackets pictured there. Maybe contact that individual since those brackets look nice.

Just to throw something else in the mix, I know it was mentioned before but not explored. The G37 Akebono or 370Z BBK (4 piston with 14" rotors, LOL), is a direct bolt on to the 6th gen maxima (NO bracket needed) basically plug and play. Now I do not know the difference between the 5th and 6th gen break set up but it there isnt any, that too should bolt up fine. AGAIN lots of variables there. I know its bolt on to a maxima because it has been done on a 2007 Altima (which shares the same break set up as the 6th gen max).

^^^
That is a interesting idea. However the weight of that solid iron 14" rotor is past 20 pounds. And then the price of those parts since they are a popular upgrade right now.

Well the 5thgen can fit 6thgen calipers and rotors using the 6thgen torque member. SO with that torque member we should be able to fit the G37 Akebono or 370Z BBK!