60+ MPH "wobble", I've done the obvious ...
01-11-2012, 06:57 AM
#42
01-11-2012, 07:26 AM
#44
01-11-2012, 07:36 AM
#45
The actual car. An alignment can be perfect when you leave the shop. Then that jamnut that was not fully tightened starts to back off and you're back to square one. You know this. 
I would checklist(current) the front end and start narrowing down your suspects.
01-11-2012, 07:50 AM
#46
No, not the original paperwork. The actual car. An alignment can be perfect when you leave the shop. Then that jamnut that was not fully tightened starts to back off and you're back to square one. You know this.
I would checklist(current) the front end and start narrowing down your suspects.
The actual car. An alignment can be perfect when you leave the shop. Then that jamnut that was not fully tightened starts to back off and you're back to square one. You know this. I would checklist(current) the front end and start narrowing down your suspects.
Originally Posted by Shift_Max
Are you using hub-centric rings or hub-centric spacers? Tried removing the spacers and see if anything changes?
It happens with 2 sets of spacers. These are hubcentric H&R Trak spacers.
I'm planning on trying this new set of wheels, and will try them with and without spacers to see if anything changes.
01-11-2012, 08:33 AM
#47
Check the mounting surface of the rim on the inside with a straight edge i had a pepboys tech torque down a rim one time and cause a knot right on the rim of the lug hole causing it to shake.
01-11-2012, 12:46 PM
#48
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Matting surface of the rim, the disk and the hub are critical! If the are dented or dirty they will cause vibration!
01-12-2012, 08:42 AM
#50
Ahhh... Like the spacers got over-torqued one-time too many and now aren't laying flat against the hub? Unless NM puts the wheels on himself, in which case they wouldn't have been over-torqued.
How many times can you take on and off wheels with spacers, NM? I don't have any experience with them. Are they plastic?
How many times can you take on and off wheels with spacers, NM? I don't have any experience with them. Are they plastic?
01-12-2012, 10:09 PM
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01-12-2012, 11:10 PM
#53
Having the same exact issues as the OP with my driver side front. Driver side front wheel has a decent amount of play in it in the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock position(in and out). Going to replace the wheel bearing and possibly the hub assembly in the next couple of days.
01-13-2012, 07:15 AM
#58
Courtesyparts is actually kinda pricey. Use this instead.
www.nissanpartsasap.com
www.nissanpartsasap.com
01-13-2012, 07:32 AM
#60
Yeah they do.
http://www.nissanpartsasap.com/nissa...&illust_seq=01
http://www.nissanpartsasap.com/nissa...&illust_seq=01
01-13-2012, 09:15 AM
#63
Yep. Courtesy was $120.0x + shipping, these guys are like $103.xx.
Going to give it the old bearing check this weekend, and if so, I'll just take it in next Friday, don't want to do this myself, tired of it already!
If it does fix the problem, I will dyno next Saturday.
Going to give it the old bearing check this weekend, and if so, I'll just take it in next Friday, don't want to do this myself, tired of it already!
If it does fix the problem, I will dyno next Saturday.
01-15-2012, 08:15 PM
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were you guys aware that if you removed your spindle and took it to a machine shop they can press out the old bearing and press in the new one?
It is a seal bearing so you don't have to add grease or replace seals like on some other Nissan models, the only thing that has to be removed and reinstalled are the circlips on the inside and outside of the hub assembly .
When i replaced my bearings ( i did the work myself ) the hardest part was removing the spindle from the suspension.
The easiest part to be honest was pressing out the hub, then pressing out the bearing and reinstalled the bearing and hub.
Just remember that the ABS sensor is the biggest PITA to remove from the spindle assembly and you may be better off just unplugging it from the body side connector than the spindle side uless you don't care if the ABS light is on or if you want to buy a new sensor to install.
Due to rust i couldnt remove the sensor from the spindle so i left it and took the whole spindle assy. and sensor ( along with the wire hanging ) to the shop press and did the work and in doing so i mangled the dust cover ( that flimsy metal behind the rotor meant to keep dust and heat away from the wheel ) so i just removed it altogether.
Once i put everything back together ( you shouldnt need an alignment but its always a good idea if you need one anyway ) and rode test it, it was quiet as a mouse. no more helicopter noise when driving !
This was the summer of 2010 and to this day it is nice and quiet
i used these wheel bearings .
http://www.amazon.com/SKF-W0133-1608...ar=1&carId=002
And my mistake they bearings were made by SKF
01-16-2012, 10:34 PM
#67
I've read good things about timken bearings and hubs....
timken bearings go for ~$35 each on www.partstrain.com
wheel bearings:
http://www.partstrain.com/store/?N=0...=wheel+bearing
hub assemblies:
http://www.partstrain.com/store/?N=0...t=hub+assembly
timken bearings go for ~$35 each on www.partstrain.com
wheel bearings:
http://www.partstrain.com/store/?N=0...=wheel+bearing
hub assemblies:
http://www.partstrain.com/store/?N=0...t=hub+assembly
01-17-2012, 04:43 AM
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I did remove my front bearings without a press. I used a tow ball and a sledge hammer. Pretty easily: https://maxima.org/showthread.php?t=606951&highlight=Bearing
01-17-2012, 07:10 AM
#70
I just hate the fact that when you pull the hub out of the knuckle, half of the bearing still sits on it.
I did it once and had to cut that part of the bearing off since it would not come off the hub.
I did it once and had to cut that part of the bearing off since it would not come off the hub.
02-28-2012, 12:35 PM
#71
Just thought I'd update this thread. So, I had an appointment to change my bearings last Saturday, but I thought, I should get off my lazy butt, and try a few things before hand.
From reading all over the forums, I came to the conclusion that I should at least try these items before actually getting new bearings put in.
1.) Remove spacers
2.) Balance tires
3.) Install new rotors
Now, i know the spacers were mentioned somewhere and it just eliminated a variable. And #2, I knew these particular tires were slightly off balance since they're my winter tires, and the bozo that last balanced them didn't do it right, so I knew it would help. And after reading all around the forum, new rotors might help too, although my issues weren't occurring when I deprese3d the brake. Either way, I have a brand new set of front rotors, so why not?
Ok, so Thursday evening, I removed the spacers, and drove to work Friday morning. BAM! The wobble (+/- 5ºC) was gone.
Then, I got the tires balanced on Saturday and drove about 250 miles for a trip, speeds up to 80 or so MPH, BAM, car feels like a freakin dream now.
At this time, it feels so solid and fantastic, i.e., new ITRs/OTRs/SFCs/ES sway bar and x member bushings/LCA's. Wow.
So now I must ask myself, obviously the spacers were causing some of this. So, I took a look at them and they don't look too bad of shape. I think perhaps I may just clean them up real well, and reinstall and see what happens.
I've run around for years and years on spacers and have yet to see this problem until recently.
So either both sets of my spacers are getting old, or they need to be cleaned up.
These are H&R hubcentric spacers. (Trak+).
Left the rear spacers on, they seem fine. The reason for the spacers is of course since I am rolling with my snow tires on, for a slight cosmetic enhancement (stock SE 17's) TE).
From reading all over the forums, I came to the conclusion that I should at least try these items before actually getting new bearings put in.
1.) Remove spacers
2.) Balance tires
3.) Install new rotors
Now, i know the spacers were mentioned somewhere and it just eliminated a variable. And #2, I knew these particular tires were slightly off balance since they're my winter tires, and the bozo that last balanced them didn't do it right, so I knew it would help. And after reading all around the forum, new rotors might help too, although my issues weren't occurring when I deprese3d the brake. Either way, I have a brand new set of front rotors, so why not?
Ok, so Thursday evening, I removed the spacers, and drove to work Friday morning. BAM! The wobble (+/- 5ºC) was gone.
Then, I got the tires balanced on Saturday and drove about 250 miles for a trip, speeds up to 80 or so MPH, BAM, car feels like a freakin dream now.
At this time, it feels so solid and fantastic, i.e., new ITRs/OTRs/SFCs/ES sway bar and x member bushings/LCA's. Wow.
So now I must ask myself, obviously the spacers were causing some of this. So, I took a look at them and they don't look too bad of shape. I think perhaps I may just clean them up real well, and reinstall and see what happens.
I've run around for years and years on spacers and have yet to see this problem until recently.
So either both sets of my spacers are getting old, or they need to be cleaned up.
These are H&R hubcentric spacers. (Trak+).
Left the rear spacers on, they seem fine. The reason for the spacers is of course since I am rolling with my snow tires on, for a slight cosmetic enhancement (stock SE 17's) TE).
02-29-2012, 08:36 AM
#77
Yup, this spring, why not since I've already got 'em.
Pretty sure they were over torqued, you know how those tire places are. I'm going to clean them up and then torque them back on properly and see what happens.
Either way, I will never ever buy a wheel with anything more than a +32 ever again. FTL. Rear spacers are fine.
Either way, I will never ever buy a wheel with anything more than a +32 ever again. FTL. Rear spacers are fine.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 02-29-2012 at 08:38 AM.
02-29-2012, 10:24 AM
#78
At this point I really have to say it is either wheel and/or tire related. I think your luck may be bad enough where it affected both sets.
Did you notice any difference between the two sets?
Did you notice any difference between the two sets?
but i didn't have alot of thread... and i haven't noticed any wobbles....
02-29-2012, 10:42 AM
#80
Problem fixed with the SE 17's, going to install my LW 17x8's in the coming weeks and see if the same behavior is noticed. Before I do that, I'll clean up the 5mm spacers I use with those (10mm spacers are used with the OEM SE's), but before that, I'll install without spacers.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 02-29-2012 at 10:46 AM.