t_behr, if you move the conversation on to the Buick as a false equivalence, that places me in the position of going negative on the Grand National, which is a position I totally would and should fail with. But my opinion isn't about the Buick, it's about the POS Dodge.



Does that trick come naturally to you, or was it intentional? It's hard to tell without actually observing someone in a face-2-face conversation. Either way, it's a clever little thing, and effective more often than not.

 

The specs of the new Dart do look good. Dodge does have a history working with the late Carrol Shelby tuning and building turbo 4 cylinder cars. One sleeper of a car was the Spirit. Not an attractive car, but it was quick for it's time. Same thing with the Omni GLHS.




And the Omni...

 

I was making a point about how auto manufacturer's would take a car and transform it into something else. That's what Dodge did with the Dart over 40 years ago, and what they later did with the Neon.

Since Aackshun's knowledge of American cars only goes back to the Fox body Mustang, I was giving him a bit of a history lesson.

 

How much is one of those compared to a 370Z? They are both powerful V6 rwd performance coupes.

The one thing I don't like about Hyundai's is there past reputation, and their reliability even still today, and their build quality. Since i've been working for a rental car company, we've had more problems with Hyundai's than all of our other cars combined.

 

There's a green Turbo spirt for sale up the road
For 1500 never thought twice about going to look at it ..

 

No, not quite. If you want to talk up the merits of that old Dodge nameplate, then by all means, talk it up. Instead, what you did was to shift things away from the Dart, so that it included the entire Dodge brand, and then even the whole era of lightweight, cheap cars with big engines.

Debate much?

Meh.

 

You should go buy it, now. They were made in limited numbers, and with a few tweaks you can have a 400whp super sleeper that will attract minimal attention from the local fuzz.

 

Watch it T_B your gonna get analized and violated for a chapter in his book i see it coming.
Chapter 48
The common interactive skills of a run of the mill internet forum fapper

 

Aakshun did compare a highly modded front wheel drive turbo'd 4 cylinder Neon to a Super Stock Hemi Dart. I was also comparing other cars to give a broader spectrum of what was made along with the history lesson to get my point across.

 

Comparing cars will always be highly debatable since everyone has widely variating opinions on them. The topic of discussion can easily spin one way or another when making comparisons.

 

Who remembers the cyclone and typhone

 

It would be but my wife would probably divorce me if I brought home another car again. Without her promision. The maxima is the only hobby car I need right now til I'm done with it..

 

Interesting trucks. Turbo'd 4.3 V6 with air-water intercooler, and AWD.

 

Pardon my spelling but the touch keyboard on this tablet is less then desirable

 

I hav'nt seen either one around in years

 

I do those were some bad asz trucks, I wonder why the stoping doing that. The 97- newer two door blazer and s 10' would have been great with those engines

 

Aackshun 2 things im having issues getting the trans to fully seat with the motor is there a trick?and please inform Cleatus the fleamarket mod king that 3 car lengths equils about 4-7 seconds off his 1/4 ET times.its all about balance

 

I see them on the road every once and a while. You mostly see them show up at car shows and meets.

There's a monthly meet here where alot of old school stuff shows up. I've seen 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs to Studebaker's, and the newer stuff like the Cyclone and Typhoon.

 

What reliability issues are y'all seeing pop up? I've not heard a lot of things about the Gen Coupe. Far as I've seen, the first gen actually only had one or two TSBs, and that was pretty much it. That's impressive for a first-generation car. Especially when companies like Nissan, who are well-known for their reliability, have to issue seven or eight TSBs per vehicle.

Fully-loaded, a Gen Coupe R-Spec with a V6, close-ratio 6MT, Brembo brakes, and a few other gadgets, runs just a hair under $30k. That's a far cry from the 370z's $32k for a base model.

 

We've seen everything from CEL's to airbag lights, to brake failure. We had one Hyundai where the front brakes completely quit working.

 

Song for the day.

 

Since I've been in the salvage yard industry... Hyundai motors and transmissions are NOT big sellers.... They're not even really sellers at all... Most yards buy front hits cause they're cheaper and they dont have to worry about saving the motor and transmission.

I know a few things here and there, if the car's motor made it to my day chances are I knew about it, in it's beginnings.

EG. Why I know a bit about the GNX because of me attempting to fool w/ my 3.8 in the Camaro.

Again, I thought you were talking NHRA classes, seems silly now, but as I admitted before not too knowledgeable about the past on vehicles, especially ones that don't have any impact on the ones in my day.

This guy.

Bad ****'s.

Manual? I've only dealt w/ Manual cars......

You should be able to get it on most of the way, leaving about 1/4 an inch of space, I use the bolts to close her up the rest of the way.

And no a carlength = about .2 on the ET's

Essential1 or GH17 would know that better.

 

The problem with maintenance issues when it comes to rental cars is that I've learned, working there, that 99% of the time, it's because some moron damaged the vehicle driving the **** out of it.

On such instance: when I used to work for a rental company, we had a customer leave with a Sonata (2011 model), and come back a day and a half later complaining of a wobble in the front end, and that it was pulling to the right; the car hadn't done either when I went out to our on-airport location to pick it up. Went out to inspect it, and both of the rims were bent, like it had been run up over a curb or something at high speeds.

What model did the brakes quit working on? In the three years I was in the car rental business, we had more issues with GMs than we did Hyundais.

 

We can stop it there.

Very few vehicles can take the abuse of being a rental car.

Brett, who makes good brakes for you G-fellas?

I want slotted rotors and some light dusting pads.

 

I don't recall which model. It could have been an Elantra or Sonata.

Our GM cars seem to be holding up fine. I can recall an Impala that had a CEL, but that's about it.

 

Your ur maxima .... and that doesn't even add up

If we ran maxima vs maxima
This what I would see

And this is what u would see

 

You guys better both be @ maxus

 

Are you talking rotors and pads or BBKs?

 

Rotors n pads for the 05+ Sedans (Dual Piston).

I'm looking @ StopTech's slotted ones and Carbotech Pads.

 

Any body want to by a thule bike rake has 3 bike holder, kyak holder and snow board .. 150 plus shipping

 

Pretty much whatever is available for the Maxima is available for the G.

I'd suggest Hawk Ceramics and either StopTech's slotted rotors, or Centric's.

Akebono makes pads for the G, too. I've heard decent things about their products.

 

Meh.

Off to go ride around on the jet ski for a while.

Y'all have fun.

 

Not as group deals on here.

So I'm a tad bit unfamiliar with all of these other companies that don't sell on our .org.

Akebono eh? Hrmmmmm.....

 

With the MT, when this happens, the clutch is misaligned. I haven't put up an auto in forever so I wouldnt be able to give you details.

 

I got like 1.5" to go and right now my hands arnt in too good of shape to spin either side no grip

 

the dodge dart will turn into the next SRT4.

 

oh i so want to find away to do this to my cluster:

 

I'm sure an srt version will be made.

 

They are doing what chevy did, nobody wanted a fcuken Cavalier, so the changed its name to a cobalt, now its the cruze. Nobody wants a neon now, so they tried the caliber which was stupid, now they are going back to a car.

to be honest the dart doesnt look bad.

 

Tuner got a spot for that