00-01 Only: Gauging Interest in a STANDALONE ECU!
00-01 Only: Gauging Interest in a STANDALONE ECU!
First take a glance through this thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...iscussion.html
I mean... If they can run a VQ30DE why not a DE-K? ehh? Ehhh? EEEHHHH?
All I need from you guys are a list of interested members, and an ECU + Pigtail to send to them for testing/pinning purposes.
The cost will be the same as the 4th genners $300 down and $500-$600 total cost.
I would also need to know what are the key differences in the two cars.... *CALLING MCSTEVE!* That would cause any issues w/ running it.
Or hell.... Could a Jumper harness just be made from 95-99 to 00-01....
Anyways..... Interest List... I can already predict 3 people that will be on here.... but surprise me guys.... Who w/ a 00-01 wants the first and so far ONLY true tuning solution made for you guys? Think about it... Smoothly breach that 6550rpm barrier.......
1. designate72
2. T_Behr904
3.
4.
5.
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...iscussion.html
I mean... If they can run a VQ30DE why not a DE-K? ehh? Ehhh? EEEHHHH?
All I need from you guys are a list of interested members, and an ECU + Pigtail to send to them for testing/pinning purposes.
The cost will be the same as the 4th genners $300 down and $500-$600 total cost.
I would also need to know what are the key differences in the two cars.... *CALLING MCSTEVE!* That would cause any issues w/ running it.
Or hell.... Could a Jumper harness just be made from 95-99 to 00-01....
Anyways..... Interest List... I can already predict 3 people that will be on here.... but surprise me guys.... Who w/ a 00-01 wants the first and so far ONLY true tuning solution made for you guys? Think about it... Smoothly breach that 6550rpm barrier.......
1. designate72
2. T_Behr904
3.
4.
5.
Last edited by aackshun; Jul 17, 2012 at 08:56 AM.
Perhaps this could save me from having to do a 3.5 swap... I don't really have the money right now but I am quite interested. By the way, int he 4th gen post it said someone was needed in Georgia, well I'm near Atlanta if I can help with anything.
Then yes
The same price of a brand new EU actually.
Think of it like this, a Stock 00-01 ECU w/ fully customize-able features, Fuel, Timing, VIAS, Redline, etc.
Last edited by aackshun; Jul 16, 2012 at 02:46 PM.
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Would this standalone get around or eliminate the dreaded P1320 code? I'm surprised my SES light hasn't burned out yet.
a jumper harness sounds good but wouldn't VIAS be affected or am i not think about that correct??.. approx what would the turn around time be???... im with T_behr on the CEL... seems to be the most durable thing nissan has lol..... depending on turn around and when will payment be needed im in....
a jumper harness sounds good but wouldn't VIAS be affected or am i not think about that correct??.. approx what would the turn around time be???... im with T_behr on the CEL... seems to be the most durable thing nissan has lol..... depending on turn around and when will payment be needed im in....
Turn around time for what? You pay you get box, kinda simple.... Only thing is the box has not been made yet... If you're asking about the time from now until the box is avail for purchase, I can't say, things are moving quicker than I expected though, maybe September you'll have one in your hands?
Payment will be needed when the process starts, so August we'd require your $300 DP which is fully applicable towards the purchase of the new unit.
Now, when it comes to inspection time I can't help you guys there, this box does NOT support emissions functions.
Es simple mang.
It's a replacement computer that controls your motor, you have full control over the aspects and parameters on Fuel, Timing, VIAS activation or anything you would want to do to your motor during it's operation.
That is it.... Since this is an aftermarket computer, not "flashing" your stock computer it will not have the components needed to manage your emissions equipment, standalone computers are usually marketed as "off road use only" for these reasons.
It was just an idea, I'd rather just have a box made for 00-01s and be done with it, keeps the cost lower for 00-01 guys, but makes the boxes more proprietary.
Turn around time for what? You pay you get box, kinda simple.... Only thing is the box has not been made yet... If you're asking about the time from now until the box is avail for purchase, I can't say, things are moving quicker than I expected though, maybe September you'll have one in your hands?
Payment will be needed when the process starts, so August we'd require your $300 DP which is fully applicable towards the purchase of the new unit.
Now, when it comes to inspection time I can't help you guys there, this box does NOT support emissions functions.
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Turn around time for what? You pay you get box, kinda simple.... Only thing is the box has not been made yet... If you're asking about the time from now until the box is avail for purchase, I can't say, things are moving quicker than I expected though, maybe September you'll have one in your hands?
Payment will be needed when the process starts, so August we'd require your $300 DP which is fully applicable towards the purchase of the new unit.
Now, when it comes to inspection time I can't help you guys there, this box does NOT support emissions functions.
.
Some 4th gen owners are saying it won't be that simple for complicated/highly modded setups but I figured if they have a car that's that highly modded they already have a way around emissions in the first place, amirite?
Also they're saying the car doesn't store information, once you unplug your ECU the info is NOT stored, it's immediately erased, I've found this to be un-true w/ my ECU and I would assume it goes the same for 00-01s.... Unplug your battery for a lengthened time and do your codes go away or not?
Damn MD don't play no games
Some 4th gen owners are saying it won't be that simple for complicated/highly modded setups but I figured if they have a car that's that highly modded they already have a way around emissions in the first place, amirite?
Also they're saying the car doesn't store information, once you unplug your ECU the info is NOT stored, it's immediately erased, I've found this to be un-true w/ my ECU and I would assume it goes the same for 00-01s.... Unplug your battery for a lengthened time and do your codes go away or not?
Some 4th gen owners are saying it won't be that simple for complicated/highly modded setups but I figured if they have a car that's that highly modded they already have a way around emissions in the first place, amirite?
Also they're saying the car doesn't store information, once you unplug your ECU the info is NOT stored, it's immediately erased, I've found this to be un-true w/ my ECU and I would assume it goes the same for 00-01s.... Unplug your battery for a lengthened time and do your codes go away or not?
There's got to be a way to have both the stock ECU and the megasquirt hooked up at the same time to pass inspection.
"Just let the MS control the injectors and ignition - leave the stock ECU hooked up to the cam/crank sensor" - kind of deal
"Just let the MS control the injectors and ignition - leave the stock ECU hooked up to the cam/crank sensor" - kind of deal
Actually, now that I think about it. The way I mentioned above would be ideal.
The MS just would need to tap off of the CAM/Crank sensor instead of intercept them. Let the MS control the ign/injectors but let the stock ECU control everything else (auto trans, gauges).
I'm sure the MS has some sort of closed loop control, so the sensor could be shared between the ECU and the MS.
Just buffer all sensors with an op-amp please...
The MS just would need to tap off of the CAM/Crank sensor instead of intercept them. Let the MS control the ign/injectors but let the stock ECU control everything else (auto trans, gauges).
I'm sure the MS has some sort of closed loop control, so the sensor could be shared between the ECU and the MS.
Just buffer all sensors with an op-amp please...
Could be done, but adds the cost of a harness. That would be the most ideal setup IMO.
That way you get your obd2 and any weird stock ecu functions, and then have full fuel and ign control.
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Now, when it comes to inspection time I can't help you guys there, this box does NOT support emissions functions.
It's a replacement computer that controls your motor, you have full control over the aspects and parameters on Fuel, Timing, VIAS activation or anything you would want to do to your motor during it's operation.
That is it.... Since this is an aftermarket computer, not "flashing" your stock computer it will not have the components needed to manage your emissions equipment, standalone computers are usually marketed as "off road use only" for these reasons.
It's a replacement computer that controls your motor, you have full control over the aspects and parameters on Fuel, Timing, VIAS activation or anything you would want to do to your motor during it's operation.
That is it.... Since this is an aftermarket computer, not "flashing" your stock computer it will not have the components needed to manage your emissions equipment, standalone computers are usually marketed as "off road use only" for these reasons.
This is why the VQ35 Haltech system that keeps the stock ecu is actually a really good way to do things.
The reason I did not go full standalone was that I could not lose the OBD II functions. Emmission inspections in the tri-state area dont play. If OBD II not working you dont pass. So in the tri-state area no OBD II = non-legal car = cops happy to pull you over. Patch harness is best, that way you dont lose OBDII.
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Having the Obd 2 would be ideal. That way if something failed or isn't working right, it would trip the SES light so I can hook up my scanner to figure out what's going on. If the MS wasn't hooked up to the factory Ecu, then tracking down something in a car with alot of electronics would be a major p.i.t.a. to do. If my car wasn't a daily, it wouldn't be much of a concern.
Having the Obd 2 would be ideal. That way if something failed or isn't working right, it would trip the SES light so I can hook up my scanner to figure out what's going on. If the MS wasn't hooked up to the factory Ecu, then tracking down something in a car with alot of electronics would be a major p.i.t.a. to do. If my car wasn't a daily, it wouldn't be much of a concern.
It would be much easier to diag. w/ the MS then it would be w/ the stock setup
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Is the software compatable with Mac OS or am I going to have to run Boot Camp and infect my laptop with Windows?
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http://www.megamanual.com/index.html
http://www.diyautotune.com/softwarelinks.htm
Since you have a MAC you have to use MegaTunix or other software... Or dual boot your mac, whichever is the easiest for yah.
I'm not quite sure if we're getting the newest MS2 firmware though, if we are then we have to use:
http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio/
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You're thinking about this way too hard man.
http://www.megamanual.com/index.html
http://www.diyautotune.com/softwarelinks.htm
Since you have a MAC you have to use MegaTunix or other software... Or dual boot your mac, whichever is the easiest for yah.
I'm not quite sure if we're getting the newest MS2 firmware though, if we are then we have to use:
http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio/
http://www.megamanual.com/index.html
http://www.diyautotune.com/softwarelinks.htm
Since you have a MAC you have to use MegaTunix or other software... Or dual boot your mac, whichever is the easiest for yah.
I'm not quite sure if we're getting the newest MS2 firmware though, if we are then we have to use:
http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio/
If I was physically standing next to you while you were doing this on your computer, it would make more sense to me. When I start reading a bunch of technical stuff I don't know much about, my brain hurts...