Is it reasonable to believe that the gen 2 Cattman coilover system w/the KYB struts, when adjusted to its softest ride, and set at around a 1.5" drop might be capable of delivering a comfortable ride equivalent to, let's say, H&R/KYB combination?

 

I can't answer that exactly, but with the coilovers in the FRONT you will have MORE wheel travel due to the extra 3/4-1" of height on the OVERtower strut mounts. This should help when going over bumps and I would think it would make the 1.5" drop actually like a 1/2-3/4" drop as far as suspension travel is concerned.

I drove Cattmans' 4th gen w/gen 2 coilovers adjusted to at least a 2-2.5" drop and it rode better than my stock SE suspension. We both have 17" wheels.

BTW, If I were you I would ASK for the OVERtower mounts to NOT be painted. The billet look is NICER!

 

Hey IceY2K1, I just wanted to ask how the FSTB fits with the Cattman Coilovers? Will there be any problems having both the coilovers and FSTB installed? Thanks.

 

All I know is $1800 for a Cattman Coilover is MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD STEAP. Whoooooooweeeeeee, that means I am gonna have to bag how many grocery bags for the next two months? 5,000 Grocery bags? DAIEMMMMMMMMMM!!!

Dixit

 

A lot of bling bling, but definitely worth the price.

 

I was hoping to see your response since you're one of the most popular posters with coilovers (okay...the most). Do you have an answer to my question. Can the ride really be made comfortable with the coilover setup or is it just a racing setup? Can I put a 1.5" drop on the Cattman setup with the softest setting on the KYB's and get a nice ride? I'll take opinions.

 

I have no experience with Cattman's coilovers, so I'll comment on the Ground Controls with Koni. I'm pretty sure you can get a comfortable ride if you don't slam the car and adjust the Konis to the stiffest setting. I probably dropped the car about 3" so my ride is stiff, maybe too stiff for others but I'm fine with it.

Jane's setup (not as low as mine) feels closer a stock ride than mine (note I said closer, not like stock). She probably has it down to about 2.0" to 2.5" and she doesn't complain about ride quality.

With your configuration, I would have to say yes, you can try to get close to a stock ride with a 1.5" drop with a soft setting, but it should still be about 2 times as harsh as with SE springs.

Hope this helps.

 

There is NO way it will work with the coilovers due to the overtower mounts being in the way.

 

Thanks for the reply. Here's the "I've never had coilovers or adjustable struts before" question of the day. How is the setup adjusted, realizing you don't have the Cattman setup. What do you have to go through to adjust the ride height and the struts? Just my ignorance makes me think it would be a challenge to ensure the same height all around. I'm sure there is a good answer for this one.

 

For real? Fits over Kev's setup with the GC/Koni setup. Are you sure about that one? That would be a non-starter for me on considering the Cattman setup.

 

For the Ground Controls, all you have to do is jack the car up so that the springs aren't compressed anymore (plus extra room), loosen the hex screw, and turn the perch (raise/lower). For the front struts make sure the car is on the ground, pop the hood, use the stiffening/softening tool and adjust the ***** on the struts. For the rears, you can only adjust the stiffness with the struts off the car (you never need to readjust the rears unless you autocross or road race).

 

The Cattman FSTB will work with the coilovers, right? Someone please confirm. I know you have to modify something to make the Stillen FSTB fit.

 

as always.

 

 

Kevin's doesn't have the overtower mounts(large caps on the top of the struts) in the way like the Cattman's setup.

Cattman will probably try and design another FSTB to work on a 5th gen. with coilovers, but since I'm the only 5th gen. around right now he doesn't have a choice. I'm just saying the current "design" has to be mounted on bottom and the support brackets for the bar would not fit with the overtower mounts.

 

Ok, listen to me. I am the first with them to reply so im the one to listen to.

They ride good. On any setting. 1.5 drop is good. The stillen bar will clear the mounts but you have to replace the bolts in the bar. There are some very minor noises in the rear I belive easyily fixable, and i intend to when brian sends me the measurements.

1800 is not excessive in a comparitive market, it's on the money.

 

Shoot, that complicates things a bit. But, Thanks for the reply IceY2K1. As usual, a lot of good info. on this board.

 

Thanks. Minor noises caused by what and what do you anticipate having to do to fix?

The Stillen bar clears? That's great. I've got the courtesy, but I would buy the Stillen if need be.

How easy is it to adjust the height? What's the process? Same question regarding the KYB's and the process?

 

Noises caused by alot of metel to metel contact. The idea is to put a polyurethen "washer" between the top mount and the carbody. This should soak up the noises pretty well. Same preciple that factory uses but better materail. The stillen bar clears but you have to replace the cross bolts. Reason being the big ones they come with don't clear the mount. I forget what the curtosy looks like but I would guess it would clear i don' tremember any big bolts stickin gout i have seen it just don't remember real clear right now.

To adjust the height you gotta rasie the car to get teh wheels off the ground. Remove the spring perch lock peice, then turn. After that repeat in reverse process. To adjust the ride(firmness etc) is on top in the front. And in the rear just reach around the tire and it's right there. Pretty easy and better than damn near all of them that ive seen.

 

does anyone have a picture of these coilovers before they were installed.... i just want to see what they look like. thanks

 

Read this thread: http://www.5thgenmaximas.com/vbb/sho...=&threadid=287

 

Cattmanperformance.com

click suspension and coilover suspension.

 

Thanks for your answers. I have another one. I'm a bit confused by the fact that you seem to have the KYB struts modified for the 5th gen suspension while emax has claimed that they don't hit the market until they are test-installed on his car on Monday.

 

I think the kyb agx is NOW avalible. When the coilovers came out they wern't. So what brian(cattman) did wanting them for his coilovers was adapt them to work on the 5th gen. And it worked.

That clear it up?

 

max'n out, has the coilovers which use adapted KYB's from a different car.

emax, has the NEW 4th gen. KYBs that were modified by Cattman to fit the 5th gen..

 

They KYB's Cattman used was for the Eclipse.

 

Thanks...Max'n, Kev, Ice....yo comprehendo.