New short block installed, still having timing issue?
This is his new engine thread.
Oh dude, it goes on and on with this cat...
He is the perfect play acting troll.
he has a perfect 7/7 threats started and locked record. Soon to be updated once the mods get tired of this thread... (t minus 3 hours and counting... or until greeny shows up lmao...)
Did you read his "big 5 electrical upgrade???"
how bout the "Removing the pvc valve?"
All I know is,
to quote my good friend Rochester:
"His mom is gonna be pissed when she finds out what he did to her dryer."
Dont worry fellas I know all about this guy, been following him from the beginning. He is...something. I remember the extra power wires to the alt and battery, the dryer vent intake, busting off the VIAS and welding the holes, the list goes on of stupidness
I thought this was the 3 engine? or we still on 2 and hes still trying to fix it? last I recall he got screwed be mechanic and they stole his engine and put his engine back in making him think he got a new one? I get confused.
Quoting plancrash on this "I dont let anyone tell me anything because there is a good chance they will be wrong" Need I say more?
I thought this was the 3 engine? or we still on 2 and hes still trying to fix it? last I recall he got screwed be mechanic and they stole his engine and put his engine back in making him think he got a new one? I get confused.
Quoting plancrash on this "I dont let anyone tell me anything because there is a good chance they will be wrong" Need I say more?
Dont worry fellas I know all about this guy, been following him from the beginning. He is...something. I remember the extra power wires to the alt and battery, the dryer vent intake, busting off the VIAS and welding the holes, the list goes on of stupidness
I thought this was the 3 engine? or we still on 2 and hes still trying to fix it? last I recall he got screwed be mechanic and they stole his engine and put his engine back in making him think he got a new one? I get confused.
Quoting plancrash on this "I dont let anyone tell me anything because there is a good chance they will be wrong" Need I say more?
I thought this was the 3 engine? or we still on 2 and hes still trying to fix it? last I recall he got screwed be mechanic and they stole his engine and put his engine back in making him think he got a new one? I get confused.
Quoting plancrash on this "I dont let anyone tell me anything because there is a good chance they will be wrong" Need I say more?
This is still engine #2, (#1 if you believe planecrash) In his last grammatically challenged episode of internet toretts syndrome, he said that they charged him for a new engine (with 0 rust and such) and then put his old engine back in, and he was filing legal action. I am assuming that this is the follow up on that...
You guys are... something. I get that he's a "trollers dream" but c'mon guys. Give him a chance to post a video of this "boing" sound. (which I have images of Wiley Coyote on a pogo stick everytime I think of it). I'm very curious to what this sound is that he is trying to diagnose. Maybe he has a legit issue we haven't seen before. Unlikely, but nonetheless let's see what he's got going on here instead of getting his thread locked.
Last edited by DanNY; Dec 1, 2013 at 06:25 PM.
in regarding to the timing chain...once the engine is at rest nothing moves.
from your very very vague description my guess is a bad timing chain tensioner but i'm sure you'll tell me that i'm wrong so i'll just sit and watch how this plays out.
from your very very vague description my guess is a bad timing chain tensioner but i'm sure you'll tell me that i'm wrong so i'll just sit and watch how this plays out.
I guess I'll finally chime in - like I need to though.
Planecrash- two sayings come to mind in regards to your presence in this forum. 1) First impressions. You complain no one helps, but every time people have, we have found ourselves regretting it. 2) Bridges burned. After numerous demonstrations of your failure to grasp basic things and then be hateful and demeaning to those helping, we are done. That should explain the responses you are getting. This is YOUR Karma coming back on you, given you seem to like throwing that concept around.
But, in effort to help your poor car, here is my thought. You seem to have completely missed two huge points you yourself made. First, you said this engine had a new short lock, but used the old oil pump. That alone explains pretty much everything. Second, using old top end and timing components and electronics further adds to possible problem points. At this point, simply having new block, crank, pistons, and rings means diddly squat to what you have been reporting as your issues.
And just to add on the painted thing. When I turboed my VG, they dipped/cleaned the block (blah blah) and painted it. Common practice and smart given the "misfortune" that has befell the relationship with your oh-so trusted mechanic.
I'm only guessing this is your "close" mechanic friend that did the work and why you paid via PayPal. Probably even got a "reduced" price this way because he didn't have to charge you tax. Hmmmm?
Planecrash- two sayings come to mind in regards to your presence in this forum. 1) First impressions. You complain no one helps, but every time people have, we have found ourselves regretting it. 2) Bridges burned. After numerous demonstrations of your failure to grasp basic things and then be hateful and demeaning to those helping, we are done. That should explain the responses you are getting. This is YOUR Karma coming back on you, given you seem to like throwing that concept around.
But, in effort to help your poor car, here is my thought. You seem to have completely missed two huge points you yourself made. First, you said this engine had a new short lock, but used the old oil pump. That alone explains pretty much everything. Second, using old top end and timing components and electronics further adds to possible problem points. At this point, simply having new block, crank, pistons, and rings means diddly squat to what you have been reporting as your issues.
And just to add on the painted thing. When I turboed my VG, they dipped/cleaned the block (blah blah) and painted it. Common practice and smart given the "misfortune" that has befell the relationship with your oh-so trusted mechanic.
I'm only guessing this is your "close" mechanic friend that did the work and why you paid via PayPal. Probably even got a "reduced" price this way because he didn't have to charge you tax. Hmmmm?
You are nicer than I am danmang...
That is why I told him earlier to look up what a timing chain does... it is impossible for a timing chain to be moving after the car is off...
I, like everyone else, have no clue what "boing" means. I agree nothing is moving once the engine shuts off. However, I have seen video on YouTube about numerous timing chain issues and wonder if the main tensioner guide on the right side isn't popping out. Maybe the "boing" is the chain pushing the guide back in place?
I, like everyone else, have no clue what "boing" means. I agree nothing is moving once the engine shuts off. However, I have seen video on YouTube about numerous timing chain issues and wonder if the main tensioner guide on the right side isn't popping out. Maybe the "boing" is the chain pushing the guide back in place?
Bump! lol
I agree while this is a trollers dream he is here asking for help and lets give him the time to post the video.
OP I do suggest that you admit that you dont know as much as you claim about cars. You may be able to turn a wrench and replace a few parts here and there but if you are not good at troubleshooting or lack a certain area of troubleshooting it is ok to admit it.
I for one can troubleshoot the hell out of an engine but put an auto tranny in front of me and I will cry then use the search button, fsm, and google.
You should not have to explain your level of skill on the forum but when you come on here claiming so much knowledge it is very irritating to read when you clearly have no experience with the issue you are referring to.
Post the video and I am sure you will get some guidance.
I agree while this is a trollers dream he is here asking for help and lets give him the time to post the video.
OP I do suggest that you admit that you dont know as much as you claim about cars. You may be able to turn a wrench and replace a few parts here and there but if you are not good at troubleshooting or lack a certain area of troubleshooting it is ok to admit it.
I for one can troubleshoot the hell out of an engine but put an auto tranny in front of me and I will cry then use the search button, fsm, and google.
You should not have to explain your level of skill on the forum but when you come on here claiming so much knowledge it is very irritating to read when you clearly have no experience with the issue you are referring to.
Post the video and I am sure you will get some guidance.
Hey again everyone. After battling a fraduist for 4 months, I have finally gotten my car back.
A new re-manufactured engine block was installed (0 miles)
When I start the car on cold start, I still get timing chain rattle/growl for about two seconds, it is clearly coming from the timing area.
I also have my oil light flickering at idle once in awhile (RPMs normal as well) I have also noticed the timing chain area makes pops/boing noises when the engine is turned off. It sounds like the tensioner is losing pressure and causing the noise boings.
Does anyone have any ideas why my car still has this problem?
does anyone know what the popping/boing noises are coming from the timing area when I shut the engine off?
The guy who did the work is a total liar/jerk. Could he have installed a broken VTC (cam gear) to spite me? this man does not like me and its definitely something he would do. (I ruined his paypal reputation by filing a dispute, and getting a refund; so hes mad) Thanks all
A new re-manufactured engine block was installed (0 miles)
When I start the car on cold start, I still get timing chain rattle/growl for about two seconds, it is clearly coming from the timing area.
I also have my oil light flickering at idle once in awhile (RPMs normal as well) I have also noticed the timing chain area makes pops/boing noises when the engine is turned off. It sounds like the tensioner is losing pressure and causing the noise boings.
Does anyone have any ideas why my car still has this problem?
does anyone know what the popping/boing noises are coming from the timing area when I shut the engine off?
The guy who did the work is a total liar/jerk. Could he have installed a broken VTC (cam gear) to spite me? this man does not like me and its definitely something he would do. (I ruined his paypal reputation by filing a dispute, and getting a refund; so hes mad) Thanks all
Hey again plane. After battling a fraduist for 4 months, you have finally gotten your car back.
A new re-manufactured engine block was not installed (000000 miles)
But since he's a fraudist it's not so new. When you start the car on cold start, you still get timing chain rattle/growl for about two seconds which is clearly not like new, it is clearly coming from the timing area which means you need to open that up.
You also have your oil light flickering at idle once in awhile. You have also noticed the timing chain area makes pops/boing noises when the engine is turned off. It sounds like the tensioner is losing pressure and causing the noise boings.
Why your car still has this problem is because you won't let us help you.
The guy who did the work is a total liar/jerk. He has installed a broken VTC (cam gear) to spite you. this man does not like you and its definitely something he would do because you ruined his paypal reputation by filing a dispute, and getting a refund; so hes mad) Thanks all. You answered your post before you even clicked submit reply.
I know way more than you think. You don't know me or my knowledge, you cannot comment.
Can someone Please tell me what the boing noise is when I turn off the engine? It sounds like the timing chain loosening. What would cause this? It is deff coming from the timing chain cover.
Can someone Please tell me what the boing noise is when I turn off the engine? It sounds like the timing chain loosening. What would cause this? It is deff coming from the timing chain cover.
the oil is not low, it is actually a little over filled. not by much. the oil light should never come on, broken in, or not broken in. The shop said they preformed the break-in. what are the boing/pop noises I hear from the timing chain cover when I turn off the engine? and for the people who think im lying, heres how it went. paid $1500 cash Paid $1500 paypal (when picking up the car) The engine was never changed, it was the same block, and he just swapped a few parts. There was a huge oil leak and the timing chain still rattled at startup. I then filed the dispute with paypal and was awarded a refund. He acknowledged the engine had a defect (even after it was supposedly replaced) He then got ahold of a higher mileage engine (150K+ miles), the second engine had a bad lifter and the engine was useless. He then ordered a re-manufactured engine with 0 miles. The short block is definitely new, all the accessories are old. The engine he ordered did not come with a new oil pump, from the looks of it, he used the old one. He put an automotive lein on the car after I won my case with paypal. I then had to pay $1500. He is now paid in full, and I have a car with a broken engine. four months of stress, agony, racing thoughts, worries, and I am still left with a broken car. Can someone Please tell me what the boing noise is when I turn off the engine? Thank you for your replies (formatting has been removed from the site? I cant make paragraphs with enter anymore??)
Oh dude, it goes on and on with this cat... He is the perfect play acting troll.He has a perfect 7/7 threats started and locked record. Soon to be updated once the mods get tired of this thread... (t minus 3 hours and counting... or until greeny shows up lmao...)
Did you read his "big 5 electrical upgrade???" How bout the "Removing the pvc valve?"
All I know is, to quote my good friend Rochester: "His mom is gonna be pissed when she finds out what he did to her dryer."
Oh planecrash, he11 me too... I am at least self aware that I do this as a form of sociopathic entertainment.
I am only serious about 10% of the time on here...
but yes, you nailed what I am tryin to say about planecrash, (as you will notice he abandoned thread and will come back, I am guessing tomorrow, to "rebuttal" myself, tbitty, and anyone else who said he is fcuked in the head... who knows, I am personally hoping for an ALL CAPS rant directed at Danmang...
wouldn't that just be swell.Ima just keep lurking this thing, and once everyone is satisfied with the thread, I will troll it to death....
just leave the salt, bread and coin, I will take care of the rest
out.
but yes, you nailed what I am tryin to say about planecrash, (as you will notice he abandoned thread and will come back, I am guessing tomorrow, to "rebuttal" myself, tbitty, and anyone else who said he is fcuked in the head... who knows, I am personally hoping for an ALL CAPS rant directed at Danmang... wouldn't that just be swell.
wouldn't that just be swell.
One could beg the question
Why a short block? Most competent mechanics will always tell you to find a fresh, complete, factory sealed LONG block, complete engine to swap into the car.
Who dafuq wants to yank one engine, strip it down completely, put the heads on the new short block, re-time it, and reassemble it?
If you're hearing noises you do the following.
#1 Make a video so we can see.
or
#2 Take it back to the shop tell him you aren't leaving till its fixed. Quiet and smooth. Don't say anything to them except for "This engine is noisy on startup/shutdown, fix it."
Practically speaking it seems like you need a tensioner. These cars will clatter if a) tensioner needs replacement or b) you're low on oil.
Why a short block? Most competent mechanics will always tell you to find a fresh, complete, factory sealed LONG block, complete engine to swap into the car.
Who dafuq wants to yank one engine, strip it down completely, put the heads on the new short block, re-time it, and reassemble it?
If you're hearing noises you do the following.
#1 Make a video so we can see.
or
#2 Take it back to the shop tell him you aren't leaving till its fixed. Quiet and smooth. Don't say anything to them except for "This engine is noisy on startup/shutdown, fix it."
Practically speaking it seems like you need a tensioner. These cars will clatter if a) tensioner needs replacement or b) you're low on oil.
Last edited by MoncefA33; Dec 3, 2013 at 12:05 PM.
One could beg the question
Why a short block? Most competent mechanics will always tell you to find a fresh, complete, factory sealed LONG block, complete engine to swap into the car.
Who dafuq wants to yank one engine, strip it down completely, put the heads on the new short block, re-time it, and reassemble it?
If you're hearing noises you do the following.
#1 Make a video so we can see.
or
#2 Take it back to the shop tell him you aren't leaving till its fixed. Quiet and smooth. Don't say anything to them except for "This engine is noisy on startup/shutdown, fix it."
Practically speaking it seems like you need a tensioner. These cars will clatter if a) tensioner needs replacement or b) you're low on oil.
Why a short block? Most competent mechanics will always tell you to find a fresh, complete, factory sealed LONG block, complete engine to swap into the car.
Who dafuq wants to yank one engine, strip it down completely, put the heads on the new short block, re-time it, and reassemble it?
If you're hearing noises you do the following.
#1 Make a video so we can see.
or
#2 Take it back to the shop tell him you aren't leaving till its fixed. Quiet and smooth. Don't say anything to them except for "This engine is noisy on startup/shutdown, fix it."
Practically speaking it seems like you need a tensioner. These cars will clatter if a) tensioner needs replacement or b) you're low on oil.
I can't believe i read both pages of this. I've been on this forum for a while now, got a lot of help from different people. To the OP;A lot of the people who have responded to this thread have given pretty good advice and info to people on this forum. If you really want help, sit back, relax, and do what they ask of to get more information to help you. So far you are getting nowhere. If I were you, like they said, get a friend to start the car, pop the hood, record the audio/video.
BTW; from my experience with my car, it sounds oil/gas related. But that's my 2 cents.
BTW; from my experience with my car, it sounds oil/gas related. But that's my 2 cents.
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On a serious note, what I've gathered so far. Boy this is gonna be long.
1. You payed this guy to install a new engine. He lied and didn't. You went after him to get your money back and have him "right" the issue.
WHY would you take it back to the same person who screwed you? Get a FULL refund and have someone else do the job right. Who the hell would have their car fixed by someone who just scammed them?
2. As some1 already mentioned, why would this "mechanic" order a new short block. Any real mechanic would find a low mileage used engine and swap it. To me its extremely sketchy why this "mechanic" asks for more work when its completely unnecessary. Do you know what comes with Nissan's short block?
3. He is swapping old with new. You are asking for trouble. You have no idea what is new on this engine and what is old. For example........
4. He apparently used the OLD oil pump. What else did he swap over that was old? Perhaps the timing chain and tensioners? Don't you think this would be a good place to start?
5. Was it even done correctly? Was the oil pump primed etc etc? Read a thread in which the end result was the timing chain skipping two teeth because the oil pump wasn't primed. Someone chime in if this irrelevant or for the 3.0. Don't remember. Guessing by what he did to you the first time I'm gonna go with NO.
6. Can you honestly stand back and look at this situation and say your though process was right? Uhhhh no. Just own it. People make mistakes. Being defensive makes it so much worse.
7. Once the video is up people will have a better shot of diagnosing your problem.
If its as bad as you say it is then it sounds like the timing case needs to be opened again. Some advice, don't take it to the same fukcin idiot.
1. You payed this guy to install a new engine. He lied and didn't. You went after him to get your money back and have him "right" the issue.
WHY would you take it back to the same person who screwed you? Get a FULL refund and have someone else do the job right. Who the hell would have their car fixed by someone who just scammed them?
2. As some1 already mentioned, why would this "mechanic" order a new short block. Any real mechanic would find a low mileage used engine and swap it. To me its extremely sketchy why this "mechanic" asks for more work when its completely unnecessary. Do you know what comes with Nissan's short block?
3. He is swapping old with new. You are asking for trouble. You have no idea what is new on this engine and what is old. For example........
4. He apparently used the OLD oil pump. What else did he swap over that was old? Perhaps the timing chain and tensioners? Don't you think this would be a good place to start?
5. Was it even done correctly? Was the oil pump primed etc etc? Read a thread in which the end result was the timing chain skipping two teeth because the oil pump wasn't primed. Someone chime in if this irrelevant or for the 3.0. Don't remember. Guessing by what he did to you the first time I'm gonna go with NO.
6. Can you honestly stand back and look at this situation and say your though process was right? Uhhhh no. Just own it. People make mistakes. Being defensive makes it so much worse.
7. Once the video is up people will have a better shot of diagnosing your problem.
If its as bad as you say it is then it sounds like the timing case needs to be opened again. Some advice, don't take it to the same fukcin idiot.
On a serious note, what I've gathered so far. Boy this is gonna be long.
1. You payed this guy to install a new engine. He lied and didn't. You went after him to get your money back and have him "right" the issue.
WHY would you take it back to the same person who screwed you? Get a FULL refund and have someone else do the job right. Who the hell would have their car fixed by someone who just scammed them?
2. As some1 already mentioned, why would this "mechanic" order a new short block. Any real mechanic would find a low mileage used engine and swap it. To me its extremely sketchy why this "mechanic" asks for more work when its completely unnecessary. Do you know what comes with Nissan's short block?
3. He is swapping old with new. You are asking for trouble. You have no idea what is new on this engine and what is old. For example........
4. He apparently used the OLD oil pump. What else did he swap over that was old? Perhaps the timing chain and tensioners? Don't you think this would be a good place to start?
5. Was it even done correctly? Was the oil pump primed etc etc? Read a thread in which the end result was the timing chain skipping two teeth because the oil pump wasn't primed. Someone chime in if this irrelevant or for the 3.0. Don't remember. Guessing by what he did to you the first time I'm gonna go with NO.
6. Can you honestly stand back and look at this situation and say your though process was right? Uhhhh no. Just own it. People make mistakes. Being defensive makes it so much worse.
7. Once the video is up people will have a better shot of diagnosing your problem.
If its as bad as you say it is then it sounds like the timing case needs to be opened again. Some advice, don't take it to the same fukcin idiot.
1. You payed this guy to install a new engine. He lied and didn't. You went after him to get your money back and have him "right" the issue.
WHY would you take it back to the same person who screwed you? Get a FULL refund and have someone else do the job right. Who the hell would have their car fixed by someone who just scammed them?
2. As some1 already mentioned, why would this "mechanic" order a new short block. Any real mechanic would find a low mileage used engine and swap it. To me its extremely sketchy why this "mechanic" asks for more work when its completely unnecessary. Do you know what comes with Nissan's short block?
3. He is swapping old with new. You are asking for trouble. You have no idea what is new on this engine and what is old. For example........
4. He apparently used the OLD oil pump. What else did he swap over that was old? Perhaps the timing chain and tensioners? Don't you think this would be a good place to start?
5. Was it even done correctly? Was the oil pump primed etc etc? Read a thread in which the end result was the timing chain skipping two teeth because the oil pump wasn't primed. Someone chime in if this irrelevant or for the 3.0. Don't remember. Guessing by what he did to you the first time I'm gonna go with NO.
6. Can you honestly stand back and look at this situation and say your though process was right? Uhhhh no. Just own it. People make mistakes. Being defensive makes it so much worse.
7. Once the video is up people will have a better shot of diagnosing your problem.
If its as bad as you say it is then it sounds like the timing case needs to be opened again. Some advice, don't take it to the same fukcin idiot.
If you connect the dots, 'Planecrash' bought a short block via PayPal. Planecrash probably IS the 'mystery mechanic' & so has no recourse but to have the same 'fukcin idiot' TRY and fix the problem. It all comes down to a loose nut holding the steering wheel!
Case solved.
/thread.
