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should i try to put the G35 UIM& LIM or stick to SSIM?

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Old 12-06-2013, 09:35 PM
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should i try to put the G35 UIM& LIM or stick to SSIM?

hey so im currently in the process of cutting out the shelf and port and polishing the UIM on my stock manifold, but im wondering, i recently got my hands on a G35 Intake manifold and was wondering if my gains would be better with it aswell as how exacly would the intake have to be routed because its gonna be facing almost the rad.
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Cars that I've seen with the 350z uim (which I believe is the same) cut it back to move away from the rad. Search around here on the org for "350z uim 5.5 gen" or something, sure you can find a write up. Might even find a dyno or two.
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ere's a shot of what I've talking about.
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If you could a G35 UIM or 350 UIM it could open the road for some more mods
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Originally Posted by george__
If you could a G35 UIM or 350 UIM it could open the road for some more mods
No soup for you!
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:22 PM
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okay, but where exacly do i cut and how do i weld it back on? do i need an adapter plate to weld on that has holes pretapped? or just cut up the g manifold so i only weld the TB connecting piece?
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Originally Posted by 02Lightblue maxii
okay, but where exacly do i cut and how do i weld it back on? do i need an adapter plate to weld on that has holes pretapped? or just cut up the g manifold so i only weld the TB connecting piece?
Maybe search for the owner of the pic above. Grabbed it off Google. IMHO, just do a SSIM. There's a couple cheap UIM listed in the classifieds right now ($60-$80). Do one for your car, swap, mod your current, sell for a profit! Makes sense to me!
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I did the 350z manifold and 3/8" spacer. If you have a raised rev limit I would go ssim. If not I would just do the NWP BOP. I didn't see any benefit from the manifold, just lots of work. The owner of the manifold above is vsamoylov (or something like that) he was banned here ages ago so his posts don't show up with a search
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it was either KRRZ350 or ajcool2 who did the 350 manifold swap pictured above. IIRC.
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Originally Posted by FallenOne
it was either KRRZ350 or ajcool2 who did the 350 manifold swap pictured above. IIRC.
wow I can't believe there have been TWO magenta 4th gens with the z manifold. Anyway the picture jwatz found is from nismo3112

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...lled-pics.html

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There are dynos showing the difference in gains between the SSIM and Z/GIM...SSIM won with a raised limiter, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by Gemner
wow I can't believe there have been TWO magenta 4th gens with the z manifold. Anyway the picture jwatz found is from nismo3112

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...lled-pics.html

here is mine

Ahh okay, my mistake.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:12 PM
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If your going SSIM and don't have an extended rev limiter beware you will not benefit from it
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Originally Posted by TriniSpeC
If your going SSIM and don't have an extended rev limiter beware you will not benefit from it
I disagree.
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The Z33 IM has potential, but it's going to take lots of work to get there. Plenty of old threads in the All Motor forum on this. It's been a while, but IIRC some of the key factors were fitting it under the hood, whether to use the one with shorter or longer runners, the ability to manipulate the CVTC maps, and more.

Here are just a few threads, but you can search for more if necessary:

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...ix-pelnum.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/4...im-maxima.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...r-stocker.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...lled-pics.html
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
The Z33 IM has potential, but it's going to take lots of work to get there. Plenty of old threads in the All Motor forum on this. It's been a while, but IIRC some of the key factors were fitting it under the hood, whether to use the one with shorter or longer runners, the ability to manipulate the CVTC maps, and more.

Here are just a few threads, but you can search for more if necessary:

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...ix-pelnum.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/4...im-maxima.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...r-stocker.html
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...lled-pics.html
Thanks for the info!!!
im gonna use the SSIM and EMU for this summer aswell as hopefully getting a 3.5 TB kit from NWP engineering. + Underdrive Pulley & more stripping. im gonna scratch the idea of putting G35 UIM, doesnt seem worthwhile.
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I think the problem with the oem G35 manifold is the stalactites design. the screws that goe through the OEM one make small blockages, like pedestals in the middle of the air flow. Some aftermarket designs eliminated those 6 "stalactites" for better air flow especially with the motordyne style spacer
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
I disagree.
A simple search of the topic will yield plenty of information
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Originally Posted by TriniSpeC
A simple search of the topic will yield plenty of information
not really. The range in quality on ssim jobs is incredibly huge. I've seen some that I wouldn't think made power anywhere over the stock design and I've felt that way about quite a few of them. Fact is the ssim is a custom job and someone might spend an hour on it and someone else might spend 20 hours on it. For the people who do a crappy job their results are not comparable to the well done manifolds.
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Originally Posted by TriniSpeC
A simple search of the topic will yield plenty of information
Owning one will tell you that it does benefit without having an extended limiter.
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Dumb question.
But does the plastic 3.0 manifold fit on the 3.5?
Downgrade?
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
Owning one will tell you that it does benefit without having an extended limiter.
Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
The shelf has been shaved off for awesome high rpm gains.
Compliments the new nwp throttle body for amazing hp gains.
I'll see if I can dig up Aaron's thread.
you make me brain hurt Fakie.

At least you sold it...
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Originally Posted by Fakie J Farkerton
Owning one will tell you that it does benefit without having an extended limiter.
O yea? Maybe I should start a build thread.
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Originally Posted by JWatZ
you make me brain hurt Fakie. At least you sold it...
Don't try so hard.

Also, I've sold two and still have one installed.
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