So I finally got my car gauge pro to work. Took 2 of the elm dongles. But what ever, I advanced my timing +2, and all I have to say is WOW. The throttle response was like night and day for some reason it felt so much more responsive and takes off a lot easier. I also drove it to and from work on the highway, and feels like the car runs smoother, like no hesitation at all. All I'm saying is, get this done to your max, you won't regret it.
I live in NJ by NYC so if anyone wants I can actually do it for you for free instead of going to the dealership and paying 120$

 

Yup, people have been doing this for over a decade now with the same good results.

 

Yup, this is true.

 

True Story. specially if its Full Bolt. The vq30's get more out of it then 3.5s.

 

Oddly, this is the first I've heard of this. Is there a DIY or sticky for this? I can't seem to find one.

 

I'm interested any possible negative side effects ? 3.5 btw

 

Honestly no, better throttle response, tad better gas mileage nothing but winning. Where you located?

 

Yea there are several, but if you have a android phone or tablet or something you can download car gauge pro, only $6 and get a little elm 327 and you can do it. Plus you can idle relearn, check all codes, test plugs, cylinders. It's honestly worth the money

 

I'm in nyc

 

I work in NYC, we can meet up some time and i can do it for you

 

I don't get it.... wouldn't fuel economy be worse, not better, after a timing advance?

 

Better throttle response = easier to move your car = less gas wasted getting to desired speed

 

No proof. In fact it's better documented on the 3.5L, quantitatively.

 

Cool thanks yeah I see what you mean, I guess I was guessing that better throttle response = more fuel into the engine = worse fuel economy

I also ask because I advanced the timing +2 on my '01 and my MPG averages between 19 and 20.5 (at best during summer it's 21). Of course this could be for many reasons.... but unfortunately I didn't do the math prior to the timing advance so I have nothing to compare with.

 

No problem man. Yea and I feel you on the fuel consumption -__- it sucks

 

not a single con about it, its all positive!! They say the 3.0's get more noticeable power then the 3.5's.

 

Alot of people say you need to run 91-93 Octane. Is this true, if so why?

 

I'm not completely sure, but I run 93 on my car regardless, i feel a power loss and fuel mileage loss if I run regular

 

@andi398 I live in New York City I would like for you to advance my 99 timing

 

Pm'd

 

Didn't get it

 

In very basic terms, higher octane = less prone to spark knock, which is desirable because higher timing value = more prone to spark knock.

 

Question, exactly what type of tool is needed for this to happen. I'm in Maryland and so far it seems every mechanic I've called are strongly against it, or haven't got a clue of what i'm saying.... "Hey would you guys be able to advance my timing from 15 to 17 degrees?" That's what I've been asking.

 

Get A Andriod phone, get the elm download the app car guage pro, look around in app, or read here what people did like you should have

 

Did this on my 2000 Maxima a few months ago, and it is great, better throttle response, its great.

 

Yeah I ordered the elm a couple days ago. Thanks for the response though bronx

 

Alright guys, Ive gone through 3 elms and cannot get it to work! ive tried different devices as well. Any ideas?

 

Tell me exactly what you did and maybe I can help you. Its not rocket science

 

Alright well.. I got the elm in the mail, downloaded gar guage pro. Then I connected my dingle to my phone,though it doesn't want to stay connected. I think that is the issue. It'll pair with my device but it won't stay connected. I've tried every possible combination of connection I can think of

 

so are you going into the program and connecting it that way? or just trying to connect through the bluetooth menu?

 

Stop dingle dangling lol ? Go to your setting and open blue tooth and connect to what it shows.

 

Supposed to get my elm in a few days.. can't wait to see the results

 

Yeah, that's what I've done, I've tried in my phone setting as well as in the app, also on torque too

 

Had this same problem, my best guess is that I've bought the wrong elm device...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161372779280?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Gonna try using this one next...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-Wireless-OBD2-OBD-II-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-Tool-For-Android-Any-Car/321559763528?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777000%26algo%3DABA.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30987%26meid%3D0cbce144a09f45859997519fb7d87981%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D331541085660

 

so...which one worked for you guys. i'm about to order one but don't want to get the wrong one.

 

I used one of these obd things with torque and it says timing is at 16 advance does that mean you guys are setting it at 18?? and is this only done in car gauge pro the one you have to pay for?

 

The one I posted last works like a charm

 

which one...the ebay exclusive? and did you use it with car gauge pro or what.
thanks

 

Am I the only one that gets poor result? Changing my timing either way (advancing or retarding) seems to make my mpg go two or three down.

 

ok...I don't get it. how the heck to you actually change the timing? all I see is how to add the pid gauges. looks like my timing is ~15* at idle.