I thought i saw a post about DIY clear side markers but I could be wrong. I've been searching the forums for a couple hours and haven't found anything. Is there a film on the inside of these lenses? If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. I know they sell clear ones i just really don't want to spend the $40-$50 for these small lenses.

 

The lenses are colored plastic so you will need to buy clear ones if that is what you want.

 

That's what I needed to know. Thanks

 

you were thinking of clearing the oem headlights DIY.

 

I have been thinking about clearing mine out too, but have since learned that it's illegal and don't want get pulled for having anything but the stock reflectors.

 

It's probably cheaper to just buy a set on eBay. A lot less of a headache as well

 

After getting clear side marker with super bright white LED I got pulled over

the cop said the side markers looked a tad too blue in color and was given a warning. Ironically? Oddly? The same bulbs are inside the license plate lighting but the cop said nothing wrong with them -_-"

 

^this

I wouldn't even risk it with the aftermarket side markers and the correct colored bulbs. The law states that the reflectors have to be yellow and red. Therefore, I cannot install the clears that I have in my garage.

 

Yup apparently clear markers with LED's are definitely illegal and you can def. get a ticket for that. Especially if said LED's are not amber/red.

At first I was using eBay smoked markers with red/amber bulbs with no problems and then I blacked em out and when I got pulled over for speeding cop said it wasn't legal because there is no amber/red on the lenses. I still had the correct bulbs but he said the lenses had to be colored. Then I took my old stock markers and modded them and blacked em out (VHT Nightshade), now I have no problems and when they light up the lenses still look amber/red and basically it's just the same as tinted taillights.

If you're gonna go clear/smoked I would advise you to get the brightest red/amber bulbs in there that can light up the whole thing well, the bulbs the eBay ones come with are garbage. But even still, you may have to deal with the law. You can do black though, on the stock markers, as long as they retain their amber/red lens when lit up it's all good and legal.

 

The reason is not the fact that they light up red/amber, but that they have colored reflectors built into the lenses so a normal person can decipher the orientation of your car at night when their headlights hit them.

 

this statement is completely false in most states, and where did you hear that?

it's totally legal if the light blub itself blinks orange

again if you clear out a side marker or turning signal and keep the stock clear oem bulb inside then yes it is illegal.

this is also why when you get clear side markers you need to also upgrade to orange bulbs also, same applies for the turn signal in the headlights.

 

The reflectors have to be orange and red. Did u not read the above posts?

Personally, I don't want to debate this in a court of law because some a$$hole cop gives me a ticket for not having colored reflectors. But to each their own. I prefer to not give them a reason to ticket me. Personal preference.

 

Had white LEDs in my smoked side markers for over two years now and no probs.

 

Dude, it's the bulbs AND the reflectors. Same reason why people were getting ticketed for altezza taillights when they were the "in thing". You need colored reflectors to be legal.

 

Try your luck and just use the correct colored bulb

I'm pretty sure I got pulled over by a OPP cop who was just bored (this was on a rural highway)

 

Quarter of our opp guys are morons that don't know the rules.

 

i am on the same page with you being legal on the road and o biding by the laws. it makes it safe/better for everyone.

but again, I am not agreeing with you guys that it has to reflect a color, and the logic in this thread on why it has to dosen't make any sense.

dstillwell of course yours were illegal you covered them up with freaking paint and they didn't reflect any more??

a basic clear side marker out of the box & the appropriate colored bulb is totally legal.

 

altezza's had...red in them? and taillights are a competely different story, not headlights and side markers.

we should look into this, not sure it is this simple. and at this point I do not agree with you.

look at the all clear side markers all of the cars out there for the past two decades. think about the body colored ones on VW's....

pretty sure all it has to do is maintain visible reflectiveness, and illuminate the proper color

 

I am interested in an answer.

I've read threads on here where both sides of the argument are presented yet there is still ambiguity.

 

Well, legal or not you might as well show the law who's boss! Go black and show em your big *****:



Be a man and GO BLACK! And BTW they sell these on eBay also, black and ready to go. Or you can do your own.


And you know what they say? Once you go black you never go back


*this has been a paid advertisement for 20 cans of Heineken

 

^summed up in one post.

 

Feel free to disagree, but every car coming off the assembly line for US federal regulations needs amber and red reflective side markers and red reflectors on the rear.

Prove me wrong and post a pic of one factory spec car that doesn't have them.

As for the altezzas, I was referring to the original JDM's that were 100% clear.

And this may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automot...and_reflectors

 

no body ever said how cars are made in the factory???
and I take any information (especially law) from user created wikipedia with a few grains of salt.

again we will have to respectfully disagree about side markers and corner lights needing to have to "reflect" the right color

I live in an area where cops pull u over for any little thing I mean anything. So I wouldn't be doing these things to my car to create any more problems if it wasn't ok.

I have never heard of any one being pulled over for having clear corners and the appropriate amber/red blinking/illuminated lights.

Side note: If all these HID's in reflector housings aren't legal, and you don't see any one ever getting pulled over for it, so that could mean decades later all these clears could be illegal too I guess

 

After reading all these posts I kind of question the whole legal/illegal thing. Not many cars before the 2000's had side markers, it seems. Why would they make a law that says you must have these colored lenses, when a certain percentage of vehicles on the road don't even have the sidemarkers in the first place? If someone can show some hard proof that it's illegal to have clear markers, not just with white bulbs but with colored as well, it would be greatly appreciated by many members I'm sure.

 

^
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...es_90h08_e.htm
(13) When on a highway at any time from one-half hour before sunset to one half-hour after sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less, every motor vehicle or combination of vehicles having a length in excess of 6.1 metres shall carry not fewer than four lighted side marker lamps, one of which shall be located on each side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles near the front and shall display a green or amber light and one of which shall be located on each side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles near the rear and shall display a red light and each of which lights shall be visible for a distance of 150 metres from the side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles upon which it is located; provided that a vehicle or combination of vehicles may carry four reflectors approved by the Ministry instead of the side marker lamps required by this section; and provided further that, if the clearance lamps upon the left side of any vehicle or combination of vehicles display lights visible for a distance of 150 metres from the left side of the vehicle or combination of vehicles, it is not necessary to carry side marker lamps as required by this subsection on the left side of the vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (13).

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/ocj/how-...i/schedule-43/
Fail to have proper side marker lamps - $85

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/reg...s_000161_e.htm
Surcharge - $20

 

way to go george... useless info.... doesn't talk about the reflecting color.

 

http://www.nhtsa.gov/Vehicle+Safety/...irements.print

 

^illegal

 

He probably still won't believe it.

 

SMH people... All this legal and not Legal BS. Had smoked with 5k led in mine for years. Also have 20%tint all the way around and 50% windshield. Exhaust louder then allowed. Under glow lights on all the time... The list can go on and on and I've never been yanked for anything. It's all on how you approach the situation. And know your laws, you argued over BS around here like this all the time. Don't let the someone tell you what you can and can not do

 

We're not saying what to do or what not to do. My preference is to avoid the ticket. Avoid getting pulled over, etc. If you want to ride around with illegal colored markers, then go for it. Nobody is saying you can't.

 

My car has been in 24 states like it sits now in over 4 years of driving it. Never been pulled over for it

 

Tom i respect your opinion, but untill we get to the bottom of this I will giggle with you...

and especially because the link is for doh!

 

If I recall correctly the Acura TL type s model 07 has smoked side markers with amber/red LEDs that come stock from the factory.

 

Yes, but they made the car legal by installing colored reflectors on the sides of the headlights and taillights.

 

I submitted the question to us dot. When I get a response I will post it.

 

http://rs993.pbsrc.com/albums/af58/a...96.png~320x480

 

When you buy the aftermarket sidemarkers why is there a disclaimer that comes with them stating that they are not street legal?

 

It all has to due to D.O.T approval anything that hasnt gone through the highyway and traffic safety department for certification to be used on a motor vehicle.

 

Nice, curious how did you phrase the question?
Good Point I thought of that too but vv
This sounds legit as to why the disclaimer appears on pretty much anything that you buy aftermarket.

IIRC some coilovers have this disclaimer "not for street use off road use only" etc.etc.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was "technically" illegal in written law form. But who knows. Look at all the illegal HID crap, been around a few years now and not too many people get problems. Maybe it is like one of those things that when the trend becomes so popular after so many years the cops ease off of the written law because they would have to pull over everyone. blah blah blah....