Intakes from www.frankencar.com
01-21-2002, 08:46 AM
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Intakes from www.frankencar.com
Does anyone know if these intakes are any good?
They said they had one for my 2002 GLE.. I am not sure
If I should get it.
http://www.frankencar.com/fc_intake.shtml
They said they had one for my 2002 GLE.. I am not sure
If I should get it.
http://www.frankencar.com/fc_intake.shtml
01-21-2002, 08:48 AM
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Re: Intakes from www.frankencar.com
Yep. It's good. in fact it's great! Not to sound redundant but try the search feature. You'll get a number of threads about Steve and Matt(Frankencar) posting video's and dyno graphs for it.
Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
Does anyone know if these intakes are any good?
They said they had one for my 2002 GLE.. I am not sure
If I should get it.
http://www.frankencar.com/fc_intake.shtml
Does anyone know if these intakes are any good?
They said they had one for my 2002 GLE.. I am not sure
If I should get it.
http://www.frankencar.com/fc_intake.shtml
01-21-2002, 09:03 AM
#5
They're not lying. Steve and Matt are known and respected members of the Org.
If you look at the dyno graphs it shows just that. There may be a slight dip in power and torque around 4300 - 4700 rpm but from then on it increases abruptly (sort of like a calm before the storm effect) all the way to 6k+ rpm.
The sound made by this is also incredible. I know clips don't do it justice but hey if that already sounds good just imagine how the real thing would sound like
Given you're from Arizona this would be a good one for you. Once they come out with Stage 4 then all the better!
If you look at the dyno graphs it shows just that. There may be a slight dip in power and torque around 4300 - 4700 rpm but from then on it increases abruptly (sort of like a calm before the storm effect) all the way to 6k+ rpm.
The sound made by this is also incredible. I know clips don't do it justice but hey if that already sounds good just imagine how the real thing would sound like
Given you're from Arizona this would be a good one for you. Once they come out with Stage 4 then all the better!
Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
the guy from frankencar.com told me...
" The gain is 10 DYNO proven horsepower and 5 ft/lbs. of torque. We,
Frankencar.com, make the intakes. We are a new comapny and strive to be the
best. "
the guy from frankencar.com told me...
" The gain is 10 DYNO proven horsepower and 5 ft/lbs. of torque. We,
Frankencar.com, make the intakes. We are a new comapny and strive to be the
best. "
01-21-2002, 09:05 AM
#6
Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
the guy from frankencar.com told me...
" The gain is 10 DYNO proven horsepower and 5 ft/lbs. of torque. We,
Frankencar.com, make the intakes. We are a new comapny and strive to be the
best. "
the guy from frankencar.com told me...
" The gain is 10 DYNO proven horsepower and 5 ft/lbs. of torque. We,
Frankencar.com, make the intakes. We are a new comapny and strive to be the
best. "
01-21-2002, 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by soundmike
They're not lying. Steve and Matt are known and respected members of the Org.
They're not lying. Steve and Matt are known and respected members of the Org.
If you look at the dyno graphs it shows just that. There may be a slight dip in power and torque around 4300 - 4700 rpm but from then on it increases abruptly (sort of like a calm before the storm effect) all the way to 6k+ rpm.
The sound made by this is also incredible. I know clips don't do it justice but hey if that already sounds good just imagine how the real thing would sound like
The sound made by this is also incredible. I know clips don't do it justice but hey if that already sounds good just imagine how the real thing would sound like
01-21-2002, 12:13 PM
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PR CAI is better in terms of performance but I think both intakes are WAY overpriced. I remember there was one .org member that was selling PR CAIs for 165 bucks until PR told him to stop because he was selling it for too cheap. I would wait and see if Warpspeed will do a CAI for the 2k2 because they seem to be the only real car lovers not out to make a quick buck. Their CAI for the 4th gen is at around 160 bucks.... I think. Which is 40 less than the PR CAI.
lol
01-21-2002, 12:54 PM
#13
Well, she did ask about PR CAI vs. Franken Intake
Anyhow, just to add. Generally speaking the CAI pulls air from outside the engine bay and thus cooler air (CAI!), The Stage 2 Franken intake acts more like a short ram intake. Not short enough to be a POP but not long enough either to pull air from outside the bay. The JWT POP Intake and the Stillen are good examples of other intakes also (funnily) called WAI (warm air intakes).
Again, Generally speaking the consensus is, a CAI makes more low-mid rpm range power while the "WAI" gains more high-end power.
A lot of people seems to complain of lost low-end torque after installing a "WAI" while others believe they actually gained something from it. At this point you're better off trying it out for yourself.
Also, the CAI is more involved during installation as you'd have to drill into your fender (approx. a 3" hole) for the tube to pass through.
Hope this helps a bit more.
Anyhow, just to add. Generally speaking the CAI pulls air from outside the engine bay and thus cooler air (CAI!), The Stage 2 Franken intake acts more like a short ram intake. Not short enough to be a POP but not long enough either to pull air from outside the bay. The JWT POP Intake and the Stillen are good examples of other intakes also (funnily) called WAI (warm air intakes).
Again, Generally speaking the consensus is, a CAI makes more low-mid rpm range power while the "WAI" gains more high-end power.
A lot of people seems to complain of lost low-end torque after installing a "WAI" while others believe they actually gained something from it. At this point you're better off trying it out for yourself.
Also, the CAI is more involved during installation as you'd have to drill into your fender (approx. a 3" hole) for the tube to pass through.
Hope this helps a bit more.
Originally posted by Cutlr7
stop whoring her thread, she was asking about the Frankencar intake.....
stop whoring her thread, she was asking about the Frankencar intake.....
01-21-2002, 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Well, she did ask about PR CAI vs. Franken Intake
Anyhow, just to add. Generally speaking the CAI pulls air from outside the engine bay and thus cooler air (CAI!), The Stage 2 Franken intake acts more like a short ram intake. Not short enough to be a POP but not long enough either to pull air from outside the bay. The JWT POP Intake and the Stillen are good examples of other intakes also (funnily) called WAI (warm air intakes).
Again, Generally speaking the consensus is, a CAI makes more low-mid rpm range power while the "WAI" gains more high-end power.
A lot of people seems to complain of lost low-end torque after installing a "WAI" while others believe they actually gained something from it. At this point you're better off trying it out for yourself.
Also, the CAI is more involved during installation as you'd have to drill into your fender (approx. a 3" hole) for the tube to pass through.
Hope this helps a bit more.
Well, she did ask about PR CAI vs. Franken Intake
Anyhow, just to add. Generally speaking the CAI pulls air from outside the engine bay and thus cooler air (CAI!), The Stage 2 Franken intake acts more like a short ram intake. Not short enough to be a POP but not long enough either to pull air from outside the bay. The JWT POP Intake and the Stillen are good examples of other intakes also (funnily) called WAI (warm air intakes).
Again, Generally speaking the consensus is, a CAI makes more low-mid rpm range power while the "WAI" gains more high-end power.
A lot of people seems to complain of lost low-end torque after installing a "WAI" while others believe they actually gained something from it. At this point you're better off trying it out for yourself.
Also, the CAI is more involved during installation as you'd have to drill into your fender (approx. a 3" hole) for the tube to pass through.
Hope this helps a bit more.
01-21-2002, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Well, she did ask about PR CAI vs. Franken Intake
Anyhow, just to add. Generally speaking the CAI pulls air from outside the engine bay and thus cooler air (CAI!), The Stage 2 Franken intake acts more like a short ram intake. Not short enough to be a POP but not long enough either to pull air from outside the bay. The JWT POP Intake and the Stillen are good examples of other intakes also (funnily) called WAI (warm air intakes).
Again, Generally speaking the consensus is, a CAI makes more low-mid rpm range power while the "WAI" gains more high-end power.
A lot of people seems to complain of lost low-end torque after installing a "WAI" while others believe they actually gained something from it. At this point you're better off trying it out for yourself.
Also, the CAI is more involved during installation as you'd have to drill into your fender (approx. a 3" hole) for the tube to pass through.
Hope this helps a bit more.
Well, she did ask about PR CAI vs. Franken Intake
Anyhow, just to add. Generally speaking the CAI pulls air from outside the engine bay and thus cooler air (CAI!), The Stage 2 Franken intake acts more like a short ram intake. Not short enough to be a POP but not long enough either to pull air from outside the bay. The JWT POP Intake and the Stillen are good examples of other intakes also (funnily) called WAI (warm air intakes).
Again, Generally speaking the consensus is, a CAI makes more low-mid rpm range power while the "WAI" gains more high-end power.
A lot of people seems to complain of lost low-end torque after installing a "WAI" while others believe they actually gained something from it. At this point you're better off trying it out for yourself.
Also, the CAI is more involved during installation as you'd have to drill into your fender (approx. a 3" hole) for the tube to pass through.
Hope this helps a bit more.
01-21-2002, 02:32 PM
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Ok LOL .. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about the
Intake..
Like someone who already has it.. Cause I have bought parts for my
old car.. and ended up not liking them.. I just want to make sure
I am making a good decision here.. anyone with this intake?? any
regrets.. For example.. on my old car.. I had the Injen Intake.. ..
and I wanted to cut edges and go cheaper so I got the INJEN instead
of the Swift Racing one.. LoL sorry If I am going off the subjet here
I just don't want to waste my money once again.. thanks guys for all
your feedback!
Intake..
Like someone who already has it.. Cause I have bought parts for my
old car.. and ended up not liking them.. I just want to make sure
I am making a good decision here.. anyone with this intake?? any
regrets.. For example.. on my old car.. I had the Injen Intake.. ..
and I wanted to cut edges and go cheaper so I got the INJEN instead
of the Swift Racing one.. LoL sorry If I am going off the subjet here
I just don't want to waste my money once again.. thanks guys for all
your feedback!
01-21-2002, 03:05 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by WILLSE
[B]
who's R&D department? S/C kit? where did you hear this?
thanks
[B]
Originally posted by N1sMO
get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option)
not yet but a kit is in the R&D department trying to be fabricated!!!! so watch out!
get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option)
not yet but a kit is in the R&D department trying to be fabricated!!!! so watch out!
thanks
01-21-2002, 03:06 PM
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Oohh! 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WILLSE
[B]
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WILLSE
[B]
Originally posted by N1sMO
get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option)
not yet but a kit is in the R&D department trying to be fabricated!!!! so watch out!
get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option)
not yet but a kit is in the R&D department trying to be fabricated!!!! so watch out!
01-21-2002, 03:09 PM
#20
Well the Franken guys claim their intake puts out 3hp and 7lb.ft of torque more than the Stillen so they must be doing something right.
Originally posted by N1sMO
Regarding this "short-ram" intake, It is not really much longer than the stock resonator. I would say, it might stick out 1 inch more than the resonator/stillen intake. I'm sure there is a benefit to having the resonator removed and replaced with a smoother air flow but how much more HP are we looking at here? Is it even 1 more hp, I seriously doubt it. I guess it would sound better though. But power wise, the Stillen/JWT might put out more.... It's like the same debate with the exhaust question, to keep the resonator on the B-Pipe or to remove it. It's basically a matter of personal taste. Bottom line: if you want power, get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option) if you just want sound, get the intake.
Regarding this "short-ram" intake, It is not really much longer than the stock resonator. I would say, it might stick out 1 inch more than the resonator/stillen intake. I'm sure there is a benefit to having the resonator removed and replaced with a smoother air flow but how much more HP are we looking at here? Is it even 1 more hp, I seriously doubt it. I guess it would sound better though. But power wise, the Stillen/JWT might put out more.... It's like the same debate with the exhaust question, to keep the resonator on the B-Pipe or to remove it. It's basically a matter of personal taste. Bottom line: if you want power, get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option) if you just want sound, get the intake.
01-21-2002, 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by N1sMO
Regarding this "short-ram" intake, It is not really much longer than the stock resonator. I would say, it might stick out 1 inch more than the resonator/stillen intake. I'm sure there is a benefit to having the resonator removed and replaced with a smoother air flow but how much more HP are we looking at here? Is it even 1 more hp, I seriously doubt it. I guess it would sound better though. But power wise, the Stillen/JWT might put out more.... It's like the same debate with the exhaust question, to keep the resonator on the B-Pipe or to remove it. It's basically a matter of personal taste. Bottom line: if you want power, get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option) if you just want sound, get the intake.
Regarding this "short-ram" intake, It is not really much longer than the stock resonator. I would say, it might stick out 1 inch more than the resonator/stillen intake. I'm sure there is a benefit to having the resonator removed and replaced with a smoother air flow but how much more HP are we looking at here? Is it even 1 more hp, I seriously doubt it. I guess it would sound better though. But power wise, the Stillen/JWT might put out more.... It's like the same debate with the exhaust question, to keep the resonator on the B-Pipe or to remove it. It's basically a matter of personal taste. Bottom line: if you want power, get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option) if you just want sound, get the intake.
and cutlr7 and soundmike
01-21-2002, 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
Ok LOL .. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about the
Intake..
Like someone who already has it.. Cause I have bought parts for my
old car.. and ended up not liking them.. I just want to make sure
I am making a good decision here.. anyone with this intake?? any
regrets.. For example.. on my old car.. I had the Injen Intake.. ..
and I wanted to cut edges and go cheaper so I got the INJEN instead
of the Swift Racing one.. LoL sorry If I am going off the subjet here
I just don't want to waste my money once again.. thanks guys for all
your feedback!
Ok LOL .. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about the
Intake..
Like someone who already has it.. Cause I have bought parts for my
old car.. and ended up not liking them.. I just want to make sure
I am making a good decision here.. anyone with this intake?? any
regrets.. For example.. on my old car.. I had the Injen Intake.. ..
and I wanted to cut edges and go cheaper so I got the INJEN instead
of the Swift Racing one.. LoL sorry If I am going off the subjet here
I just don't want to waste my money once again.. thanks guys for all
your feedback!
01-21-2002, 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by N1sMO
Okie, I guess my post wasn't very informative in that sense. I had the PR CAI on my 96 Max, and personally I did not feel any gains. I guess my butt dyno isn't tuned to be that sensitive. But it did sound incredible though. The kid in me wants to get an aftermarket intake because of the sound. But the adult in me tells me to get a y-pipe/ b-pipe after my warrantee runs out instead because of the real hp gains.
Okie, I guess my post wasn't very informative in that sense. I had the PR CAI on my 96 Max, and personally I did not feel any gains. I guess my butt dyno isn't tuned to be that sensitive. But it did sound incredible though. The kid in me wants to get an aftermarket intake because of the sound. But the adult in me tells me to get a y-pipe/ b-pipe after my warrantee runs out instead because of the real hp gains.
01-21-2002, 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
well which Y pipe do you reccomend? for my 2002 GLE..
well which Y pipe do you reccomend? for my 2002 GLE..
this intake will give you 10 hp but there are no y-pipes out yet. i'm gonna start working on one though.
01-21-2002, 03:38 PM
#27
Well there isn't one for the 2k2 just yet. Give these guys a month or two and you'll see one for sale soon enough.
Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
well which Y pipe do you reccomend? for my 2002 GLE..
well which Y pipe do you reccomend? for my 2002 GLE..
01-21-2002, 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaGirl02
well which Y pipe do you reccomend? for my 2002 GLE..
well which Y pipe do you reccomend? for my 2002 GLE..
01-21-2002, 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by N1sMO
Regarding this "short-ram" intake, It is not really much longer than the stock resonator. I would say, it might stick out 1 inch more than the resonator/stillen intake. I'm sure there is a benefit to having the resonator removed and replaced with a smoother air flow but how much more HP are we looking at here? Is it even 1 more hp, I seriously doubt it. I guess it would sound better though. But power wise, the Stillen/JWT might put out more.... It's like the same debate with the exhaust question, to keep the resonator on the B-Pipe or to remove it. It's basically a matter of personal taste. Bottom line: if you want power, get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option) if you just want sound, get the intake.
Regarding this "short-ram" intake, It is not really much longer than the stock resonator. I would say, it might stick out 1 inch more than the resonator/stillen intake. I'm sure there is a benefit to having the resonator removed and replaced with a smoother air flow but how much more HP are we looking at here? Is it even 1 more hp, I seriously doubt it. I guess it would sound better though. But power wise, the Stillen/JWT might put out more.... It's like the same debate with the exhaust question, to keep the resonator on the B-Pipe or to remove it. It's basically a matter of personal taste. Bottom line: if you want power, get a supercharger (ops, 2k2 don't have that option) if you just want sound, get the intake.
01-21-2002, 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
this intake will give you 10 hp but there are no y-pipes out yet. i'm gonna start working on one though.
this intake will give you 10 hp but there are no y-pipes out yet. i'm gonna start working on one though.
so which one produces more power? a stillen popcharger or the frankencar stage 2? An unbiased reply based solely on dyno results would be preferred
01-21-2002, 04:05 PM
#31
Alrighty,
Here's Eric's dyno with Stillen intake (Auto?)
And here's WillSE's dyno run with a modified intake (6spd)
And the
Other 2k2 with stillen intake + exhaust
Of course, the FC is on their website
Here's Eric's dyno with Stillen intake (Auto?)
And here's WillSE's dyno run with a modified intake (6spd)
And the
Other 2k2 with stillen intake + exhaust
Of course, the FC is on their website
01-21-2002, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
You should take the time to read the thread(s) regarding the FC intake. It is proven fact it puts out more power than the Stillen pop. I know since I have witnessed dyno runs of a 2k2 6spd with stillen pop and the gains were higher with the FC. I realize you have a "newbie" status but I have a feeling you have been on the .org for sometime and just posting nonsense for one reason or another. Either read the threads or contact Matt or Steve directly with questions. You are only debating with yourself on this one.
You should take the time to read the thread(s) regarding the FC intake. It is proven fact it puts out more power than the Stillen pop. I know since I have witnessed dyno runs of a 2k2 6spd with stillen pop and the gains were higher with the FC. I realize you have a "newbie" status but I have a feeling you have been on the .org for sometime and just posting nonsense for one reason or another. Either read the threads or contact Matt or Steve directly with questions. You are only debating with yourself on this one.
01-21-2002, 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Alrighty,
Here's Eric's dyno with Stillen intake (Auto?)
And here's WillSE's dyno run with a modified intake (6spd)
And the
Other 2k2 with stillen intake + exhaust
Of course, the FC is on their website
Alrighty,
Here's Eric's dyno with Stillen intake (Auto?)
And here's WillSE's dyno run with a modified intake (6spd)
And the
Other 2k2 with stillen intake + exhaust
Of course, the FC is on their website
01-21-2002, 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Alrighty,
Here's Eric's dyno with Stillen intake (Auto?)
And here's WillSE's dyno run with a modified intake (6spd)
And the
Other 2k2 with stillen intake + exhaust
Of course, the FC is on their website
Alrighty,
Here's Eric's dyno with Stillen intake (Auto?)
And here's WillSE's dyno run with a modified intake (6spd)
And the
Other 2k2 with stillen intake + exhaust
Of course, the FC is on their website
01-21-2002, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by N1sMO
Has anyone dyno back to back on the same car with the various intakes? There are way too many factors when comparing dyno plots.
Has anyone dyno back to back on the same car with the various intakes? There are way too many factors when comparing dyno plots.
01-21-2002, 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
actually another 2k2 6-spd owner dynoed with his stillen intake with "velocity stack" and got 3 less hp and 7 LESS TQ then a did, so the gains are there. plus emax said this is way better sounding too.
and cutlr7 and soundmike
actually another 2k2 6-spd owner dynoed with his stillen intake with "velocity stack" and got 3 less hp and 7 LESS TQ then a did, so the gains are there. plus emax said this is way better sounding too.
and cutlr7 and soundmike
will
01-21-2002, 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by akrus
Tell me my stage 2 is in the mail, Steve. I'm dying to put my car to the dyno and end this thread.
Albert
Tell me my stage 2 is in the mail, Steve. I'm dying to put my car to the dyno and end this thread.
Albert
01-21-2002, 07:44 PM
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i dynoed with my stock intake and franken intake THE SAME DAY FOR A REASON. i got 10hp and 5tq. the other maxima with a stillen intake dynoed at 3 less hp and 7 less tq. he actually lost 2tq over my stock run. wow big velocity stack. if someone wants to let me borrow their stillen intake i might consider dynoing with it and with teh frankencar intake. although emax is right near me and we could dyno the same day or something. there is a dyno with a stillen intake and it was less, he had less tq then i did stock. this is unbiased(yes it is) based SOLELY upon dyno charts
-steve
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