Jibberish18

Hello All. 03 GLE here. My power steering fluid has recently began slowly leaking and by slowly I mean I have to refill it once a week otherwise it whines. I read a few threads about the Power Steering Pressure Hose and it sounds like aftermarket solution will more than likely whine (I know some people say no but I had other cars before this that did not take well to aftermarket hoses). I took a look at the hoses on RockAuto but I don't like the way they look compared to factory. I can understand why they whine. BUT I did find one that looks interesting. Looks more like factory but have no experience with it. Can someone check it out? Maybe you've bought it before? Thank you!

http://www.1aauto.com/power-steering...e/i/1aspp00133

https://dvautoparts.com/discount-sto...w-lpjimirqjllm

2nd one is cheaper so that's nice. I'd normally buy good quality parts but I just don't care about this heap anymore. I just want it to get me around without breaking down. Thanks again!

Child_uv_KoRn

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https://www.amazon.com/Gates-365820-...+steering+hose

Jibberish18

I saw all of these hoses on RockAuto (Including the rebranded Gates AC Delco hose) and I don't like the look of them compared to OEM hoses. The OEM has thicker/beefier looking ends for one. And what about the brackets? Otherwise, yes the Gates was the first one I looked at.Thanks.

Child_uv_KoRn

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It works fine, I have it. I bet it outlasts the car (definitely will if you haven't got rid of your precats lol).

Granted, I paid 51, so it was much more enticing, but I have no complaints, it does its job. It's been installed for 2 yrs.

Jibberish18

I completely forgot to update this thread. I took my car to the mechanic because it just so happens my alternator died on me so I had to fix that and the power steering hose while I was at it. Now I always buy the parts and give them to my mechanic but this time since I had the car towed I just left him a little note and I guess he thought I told him to buy all the parts himself. Long story short I paid about $700 in repairs and he ended up using the Gates/Delco hose and in the end it whined whenever I turned the steering wheel lol. It's not bad but like everyone said, it definitely whines. My mechanic thought the pump might be going out. I tried to explain that it's the hose causing it but he was convinced it's the pump. So yeah. I really wanted to try the other hose too. Oh well.

kbohip

My Gates has been in for 62,000 miles and 6 years. Still whines like a '78 Ford LTD low on ps fluid. I just pretend I'm Kojak and deal with it.

Child_uv_KoRn

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And I have zero whine... Same thing with other brands. Some report whine, some don't.

mclasser

I watched the mechanic properly dead & live bleed my Edelmann hose after installing it a few weeks back. Despite that, it still whines at low speeds, like in parking lots. Flushing the system with MaxLife ATF didn't help either.

This hose cost 4X less than OEM and is bone dry, so I can live with a little buzzing.

cornholio

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bummer, my edelmann is quiet. BUT i bought it knowing i could live with some noise if it came to that

maximatech12

Anything is better than a leaky one.

The return may need replacing too.
So what's that 5/8" hose? Universal is what I would do . What about a steel braided hose?

Derrick2k2SE

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Leaking is definitely bad. A high pressure line like this can go quickly when it goes and it's a small reservoir. The one on my 00 was just a small drip but my 02 went quick. I was lucky that I happened to pull into a parking lot and smelled something. It was literally squirting out every time I moved the wheel. Before that it wasn't leaking a drop.

There is no universal hose. This is a high pressure hose with specific pressed fittings on each side.

maxiiiboy

Interesting.
So, if it's not the good/poor bleeding, what is it?
Have you tied, or not tied, your hose in the middle?

Child_uv_KoRn

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He meant the supply hose. It's just a cluster**** paragraph. I initially read it the same way.

maximatech12

If I did it all over again I'd replace the P/S belt while I got the HP hose off. I used the OE suction hose but regret it because it ran me $80. Universal 5/8" > (?) hose will run you under $20 and work just the same
if it's leaking your belt is probably soaking up the oil while under high heat and tension
The pump gets pulled down to do this and puts a strain on the HP hose so it's easier to just replace the belt too.

mclasser

You paid $80 for a suction hose You can get that sh^t from any auto parts store for like $10, molded in the same shape as OEM.

If a belt is soaked with fluid, you'll know because it'll squeal like a pig. Bigger concern is the LCA bushings swelling up from the hot fluid.

maximatech12

You don't need molded just cut s 5/8" hose the same size. Slip a slightly bigger hose over it where it runs past the exhaust tube and put some heat material over it.
If you get a hpps hose is get one with the foam + heat wrap .
They sell cheap one without just some aluminum sleeving > super cheap right? I believe the foam insulation helps insulate the hose

mclasser

^^Don't know why you're telling me this, brosef. If you knew all this, I ask again, why did you spend $80?

And all the aftermarket HPPS hoses I researched came wrapped in foil.

Derrick2k2SE

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What do you mean "The pump gets pulled down"? Did you unbolt the pump to swap the hose? If you're talking about undoing the tensioner to loosen the belt it doesn't move the pump nearly enough to stress anything.

The belt shouldn't get wet unless the hose is really squirting. It usually drips down the hose and onto the pump behind the pulley. The belt is kind of a pain so I wouldn't touch it if I didn't have to. Other than having the car jacked up, there's no other connection between the two jobs.

maximatech12

I used a replacement brand from APW and it worked great!!
80 bucks and now I'm seeing it for $60!
But the whine could be from small leak in the suction nipple mounting to the pump? I say replace pump and whine will go away?

george__

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Aftermarket steering hose whine is to be expected....

One of few Maxima oddities

maximatech12

I disagree ! These aftermarket hoses meet or exceed OE.
Gates, REPN, Duralalst, should all work GREAT!

maximatech12

Why not just cut the crimp out with a hacksaw and remove the old rubber then just band clamp a new hose on?

Derrick2k2SE

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If you have to ask this question you're in no position to offer any advice on the subject.

The whine from some aftermarket hoses is well documented by people who actually know something. Suggesting an expensive pump replacement is just irresponsible.

maximatech12

all over the drive shaft and inner tie rod boot too! It soaks the entire area
so will it be ok to just cut the crimp out then replace rubber w/ band clamps?

Derrick2k2SE

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No, the hose material is a special high pressure line. You wont find that at AutoZone. The crimping is done with a new crimp with a high pressure crimping machine. I've seen these lines made by a specialty shop we do business with. You're not going to do this at home.

Child_uv_KoRn

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But if you do be sure to stick your face over it and have someone start the car

Derrick2k2SE

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That's how you show commitment.

Be careful though. Someone here might read that and start giving it as expert advice from a "tech".

maximatech12

Yeah I'd say if there is a pipe inside the rubber hose and you bend it or kink it it may whine.
The Nissan OEM has a metal pipe inside that flexes. This runs all the way through but has a break in the middle.
Maybe the cheaper hoses have non flex piping that could kink therefore causing a whine.
So yeah I guess the whine could be A defective hose. But you can't see through the hose there's no looking glass so it's real hard to say.

maximatech12

It's a craps shoot so just go Nissan OEM and pay the $300.

cornholio

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dafuq man you're all over this thread saying use the aftermarket hoses and then you come back with this months later?

maximatech12

sorry bout that but Im wondering
I put some washers back in that I got out of my tool box to replace the OEM washers.
If the new replacement washers were 1/2mm thicker could this be the reason for the noise?
I'm running into this that the original washers fitting with the banjo bolts are all 1mm thick but it seems that most auto parts stores are selling assorted packs of the correct size but 1.5mm thick.

maxinout93

I need to replace my ps pressure hose, is there a certain type wrench to use, if so what size? short or long ?

Child_uv_KoRn

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For the top? Use the wrench that has a cut out in it (kind of like oxygen sensor wrench), I can't remember what it's called. Otherwise, you may strip the **** out of it. It's on there pretty tight.
Banjo just needs breaker bar or 1/2 ratchet with cheater.

maximatech12

two wrenches up top? One to hold the fitting mounted to the car and the other to break the nut loose. I didn't realize it at first when I began to remove it
#1 that the fitting that bolts to the frame and the hose are one piece.
#2 it actually is designed to grip with wrench and hold it while you break the nut loose.
If you try to loosen the nut without holding the fitting it could damage the piping where it connects to the rack

Child_uv_KoRn

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Yeah. I thought about it later, but I assumed it was obvious

maximatech12

Im seeing two copper washers with the aftrrmarket hoses on Rock Auto then I'm seeing a yellow piece.
My question is where does the yellow piece go?
I just went for the Eddelman but was unsure of where the yellow piece fits after the install.

krismax

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i can't find a cheap suction hose for nothing. (return hose if you prefer)

Maximatech did you say 5/8 hose would work?

maximatech12

If they have 19/32" that might be a better match.

Derrick2k2SE

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What's the yellow piece made of? If it's plastic it could be a plug to keep crap out of the hose during storage and shipping.

maximatech12

Or a cap for the pressure switch after removing it.