Need help with Vacuum lines
Need help with Vacuum lines
I need some help with my 2000 Maxima SE. While under the hood chasing a coolant leak, I happened to notice a hissing sound with the engine running. Knowing that this typically means something is not correct with the air intake stuff, I started looking around and finally found the source. I have attached an image to help explain. The tube marked in red is not connected to anything (at the end where the red and blue lines are parallel) and is causing the hissing from suction being generated. If I place my finger over the end, the suction easily holds the tube to my finger so it is pulling a lot of air through it.
Question 1: is it supposed to just be loose and not connected to anything?
If no, then what is it supposed to connect to?
As for the other colors... From what I can see from the tube angles and lengths, I would assume that the red tube is supposed to connect to where the blue tube is currently connected. The red tube looks like it is designed to bend right to that spot. The other end of the red tube is the end marked with the arrow where a T junction connects it to that line near the top of the pic.
The blue tube looks like it should go somewhere else. If you follow the blue tube from the point where it is next to the red tube end, then it spirals back up and around and then back under some hoses, and then right back up to a T junction with the Green line where the T junction itself is underneath the point in the pic where the green and blue lines roughly intersect. So my reasoning is why in the world would the blue line spiral around through roughly 12", only to come right back to roughly the same spot to intersect with the green line about 2" from where it started. It also looks, from the bends in the blue line, like it should go somewhere else instead of that point where the red line ends without any connection. In other words, it is way too long and has way too much slack in it for where it is currently going.
Now, when I plugged the vacuum (end of the red line) with my finger, I could hear the idle speed changing. I've also had some issues with the car idling rough and even stalling out when cold - all things that are consistent with a vacuum leak after the MAF. This also makes me think that someone put these lines back together wrong.
Can someone please help me make sense of this? I realize this car is 17 years old, but she still runs pretty well for the most part and I want to keep her going as long as possible.
Question 1: is it supposed to just be loose and not connected to anything?
If no, then what is it supposed to connect to?
As for the other colors... From what I can see from the tube angles and lengths, I would assume that the red tube is supposed to connect to where the blue tube is currently connected. The red tube looks like it is designed to bend right to that spot. The other end of the red tube is the end marked with the arrow where a T junction connects it to that line near the top of the pic.
The blue tube looks like it should go somewhere else. If you follow the blue tube from the point where it is next to the red tube end, then it spirals back up and around and then back under some hoses, and then right back up to a T junction with the Green line where the T junction itself is underneath the point in the pic where the green and blue lines roughly intersect. So my reasoning is why in the world would the blue line spiral around through roughly 12", only to come right back to roughly the same spot to intersect with the green line about 2" from where it started. It also looks, from the bends in the blue line, like it should go somewhere else instead of that point where the red line ends without any connection. In other words, it is way too long and has way too much slack in it for where it is currently going.
Now, when I plugged the vacuum (end of the red line) with my finger, I could hear the idle speed changing. I've also had some issues with the car idling rough and even stalling out when cold - all things that are consistent with a vacuum leak after the MAF. This also makes me think that someone put these lines back together wrong.
Can someone please help me make sense of this? I realize this car is 17 years old, but she still runs pretty well for the most part and I want to keep her going as long as possible.
Last edited by jeff92k7; Jan 13, 2017 at 01:25 PM.
I assumed that mine didn't have that second connection for some reason. From the dirt in the hole, it's clearly been missing for a long time, if there ever was one.
OK, I think I figured it out. After reviewing the FSM a few times, it looks like the blue line was indeed in the wrong place. The red line was supposed to connect to that point (Fuel Pressure Regulator). The blue line was supposed to go to the boost sensor attached at the front of the car hanging off the air intake (listed as Absolute Pressure Sensor in the FSM). The boost sensor has had nothing connected to it for years.
I've always wondered why there was a sensor hanging off the air intake connected to the electrical lines but nothing else. It seems this vacuum line issue may have been caused a few years back. I'm not sure why I never noticed the hissing/sucking sound until yesterday though.
I moved the blue line to the Boost sensor and connected the red line back to the Fuel pressure regulator. That takes care of the open-ended hose and corresponding vacuum leak. I'll test drive it shortly on some errands. Hopefully this takes care of the stuttery idle speed and occasional stalling when cold.
But this is going to drive me nuts wondering about who did this. Was it when we had the transmission replaced three years ago? Was it when we took it to another shop on any one of multiple occasions for other work, one of those times being an error code for a vacuum leak? In that case, they replaced the "accordion" tube right after the MAF. Maybe they screwed up these other lines while diagnosing that? Argh.... I wish I knew.
I've always wondered why there was a sensor hanging off the air intake connected to the electrical lines but nothing else. It seems this vacuum line issue may have been caused a few years back. I'm not sure why I never noticed the hissing/sucking sound until yesterday though.
I moved the blue line to the Boost sensor and connected the red line back to the Fuel pressure regulator. That takes care of the open-ended hose and corresponding vacuum leak. I'll test drive it shortly on some errands. Hopefully this takes care of the stuttery idle speed and occasional stalling when cold.
But this is going to drive me nuts wondering about who did this. Was it when we had the transmission replaced three years ago? Was it when we took it to another shop on any one of multiple occasions for other work, one of those times being an error code for a vacuum leak? In that case, they replaced the "accordion" tube right after the MAF. Maybe they screwed up these other lines while diagnosing that? Argh.... I wish I knew.
But this is going to drive me nuts wondering about who did this. Was it when we had the transmission replaced three years ago? Was it when we took it to another shop on any one of multiple occasions for other work, one of those times being an error code for a vacuum leak? In that case, they replaced the "accordion" tube right after the MAF. Maybe they screwed up these other lines while diagnosing that? Argh.... I wish I knew.




