Proper headlight restoration?
Hello, I plan on restoring my headlights following this tutorial:
However, all I have is 400 & 2000 grit sandpaper. Should I be fine with 400 & 2000 or should I also get 600 as well? These are my headlights now: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....e7ea771d9e.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....62be310074.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....398e1264b0.jpg |
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That tutorial is great. Here are the results on the 2003 that I had. In a year it didn't fade at all. Get 600 or 800 and work your way up. I loosly followed the tutorial based on the sand paper I had. Started at 400, then 600, then 1000, then 1200, then 1500, then 2000, and after clear coat fullly settled, wet sanded with 3000grit carefully (also all the sanding should be wet sanding obviously)
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What the car looked like after https://imgur.com/a/hxekb3O
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Originally Posted by flames101sully
(Post 9175194)
What the car looked like after https://imgur.com/a/hxekb3O
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Originally Posted by mo neenja31
(Post 9175195)
That looks good! Would there be any issues if I go 400 - 600 then straight to 2000 like ChrisFix?
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Forget sanding...
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Sanding vs replacement
I initially did the sanding/polishing on my lights but you have to repeat the process, at least the polishing regularly. I eventually gave up and ordered a set of aftermarket lights. Sure it costs more but then you have several years without having to do the polishing. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by ajahearn
(Post 9175562)
I initially did the sanding/polishing on my lights but you have to repeat the process, at least the polishing regularly. I eventually gave up and ordered a set of aftermarket lights. Sure it costs more but then you have several years without having to do the polishing. Just a thought.
Did you spray clear coat? I believe that step stops it from yellowing again. |
Originally Posted by NotYou
(Post 9175253)
Forget sanding... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_yd1bbXswM
Originally Posted by ajahearn
(Post 9175562)
I initially did the sanding/polishing on my lights but you have to repeat the process, at least the polishing regularly. I eventually gave up and ordered a set of aftermarket lights. Sure it costs more but then you have several years without having to do the polishing. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by ajahearn
(Post 9175562)
I initially did the sanding/polishing on my lights but you have to repeat the process, at least the polishing regularly. I eventually gave up and ordered a set of aftermarket lights. Sure it costs more but then you have several years without having to do the polishing. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by mo neenja31
(Post 9175577)
Wish I saw this before I bought everything lol.
Aftermarket lights are something I can't afford right now lol Don't worry, the chris fix method is great and it lasts. And I am skeptical of that "3 minute" method. Before this method which I think is the best, on the 2000 at one point I did buff them similar to that video. The initial results weren't as good as the sanding and spray clear coat method, and it began to yellow again in a couple weeks...also his light in the video looks no where near as bad as ours. |
Don't waste your time polishing. The yellow will return very fast.
spraying with the normal stuff will also not last very long because it can be wiped/worn off over time. look for the 2k stuff on amazon this stuff is forever. hard as a rock an looks bling af. i'll post some before and after. The thing is it's really hardcore stuff you need a mask from homedepo or it could damage your lungs. |
ok.
This is a before / after clear coat. on top of that the before is the fog light just after polishing with a polishing wheel so it was as good as it was going to get with just polishing. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/943/2...7fa9054e_c.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/946/4...d765d6de_c.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/974/2...ab527319_c.jpg 3 years later this is my car maybe a week ago lights still blinging like jewels. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/903/4...05dffe54_c.jpg, on Flickr |
i maintain mine with meguiars plastix
but it is a maintenance kind of thing. |
Anyone tried ceramic coating after polishing or sanding?
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Originally Posted by flames101sully
(Post 9175576)
Did you spray clear coat? I believe that step stops it from yellowing again.
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Originally Posted by TallTom
(Post 9175579)
I read that aftermarket doesn't throw the light as far as OEM's.
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I followed ChrisFix's tutorial to a T but I messed up severely with the clear coat. I didn't realize I had a matte finish (I used Dupli-color Acrylic Enamal - Clear coat with matte finish instead of glossy), so my driver's side headlight is mucked up. I'm assuming the only way to remove this is to wet sand the headlight all over again.
I'm also skeptical of the 3 minute restoration but if this doesn't work out, I might try that later |
The three minute video works great unless there was clear coat already applied or there is yellowing. I should have mentioned that.
For those issues then yes, you must wet sand. I dont like the idea of clear coating with regular spray paint. Maybe with a 2K. Either way, no matter what method you use, you need to do some sort of upkeep like wax, uv protectant and polishing. Otherwise you will have to eventually sand them again. Obviously everyone has their own opinion and YT video about this. Hear what people have to say and then make your own decision. :-) |
Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
(Post 9175614)
Don't waste your time polishing. The yellow will return very fast.
spraying with the normal stuff will also not last very long because it can be wiped/worn off over time. look for the 2k stuff on amazon this stuff is forever. hard as a rock an looks bling af. i'll post some before and after. The thing is it's really hardcore stuff you need a mask from homedepo or it could damage your lungs. https://www.amazon.com/Spray-High-Gl...70_&dpSrc=srch |
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Finally got the 2k clear coat, just need to pick up a respirator (those sanding ones by 3M should do the job)
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How long do I have to wait until I can drive the car again? I want to park it in my uncle's garage since it's gonna rain tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by mo neenja31
(Post 9176693)
How long do I have to wait until I can drive the car again? I want to park it in my uncle's garage since it's gonna rain tomorrow.
Video says a day until waxing, so I think a day is fine after the clear coat. |
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....f3a8bee668.jpgThis is what it looked like before my dumbass sprayed 2 more coats
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....3306d5aa4d.jpg Ended up driving to the garage, had to drive super slow lmao. I think I have to re-do the passenger side headlight unfortunately since I got over ambitious and applied too many coats. I never leave things alone lol, my cousin said the driver's side was a bit shinier than the passenger side so I thought applying 2 more coats on top of the 3 it already had would do the trick, but unfortunately it looks milky. Kinda sucks because I really don't want to have to deal with 2k stuff again, stuff is hazardous |
^ did the bubbles clear up?
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Originally Posted by mo neenja31
(Post 9176705)
Ended up driving to the garage, had to drive super slow lmao. I think I have to re-do the passenger side headlight unfortunately since I got over ambitious and applied too many coats. I never leave things alone lol, my cousin said the driver's side was a bit shinier than the passenger side so I thought applying 2 more coats on top of the 3 it already had would do the trick, but unfortunately it looks milky. Kinda sucks because I really don't want to have to deal with 2k stuff again, stuff is hazardous Even with the orange peel, looks fantastic especially when compared to before. You could try to wetsand with a high grit sand paper and see how that turns out. I did that step for both the headlights and it did help. By the end if held up to a certain light and a certain angle you could still see some orange peel, but it was for the most part gone when looking at it from most directions. Re-doing this stuff would never be fun after the first time. |
I would just get a pair of aftermarket headlights at Ebay for $150 or so and use the lens only, then wax it or apply UV protection (not clear coat) every wash and call it good. This should last several years. Stripping it down and do clear coat are option, but its not going to look like new anyway.
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Originally Posted by Donkeypunch
(Post 9176708)
^ did the bubbles clear up?
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Originally Posted by flames101sully
(Post 9176711)
Even with the orange peel, looks fantastic especially when compared to before. You could try to wetsand with a high grit sand paper and see how that turns out. I did that step for both the headlights and it did help. By the end if held up to a certain light and a certain angle you could still see some orange peel, but it was for the most part gone when looking at it from most directions. Re-doing this stuff would never be fun after the first time.
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Ughh just noticed that there's like 3 or 4 streaks on the driver's side headlight, not sure if it's because I haven't put any wax on yet. I let the headlights dry for a day Will applying wax work? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/maxima....53b8965c12.jpg
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Originally Posted by mo neenja31
(Post 9176868)
Ughh just noticed that there's like 3 or 4 streaks on the driver's side headlight, not sure if it's because I haven't put any wax on yet. I let the headlights dry for a day Will applying wax work?
You can apply wax, but the streaks will stay. For touching it up 2500-3000 (to play it safe) grit wetsand the headlights then you can polish and wax. To be honest, even though the light from your picture has the streaks, it looks 100% better than before, and even just putting a final step of wax would be good enough. |
Originally Posted by flames101sully
(Post 9176872)
You can apply wax, but the streaks will stay. For touching it up 2500-3000 (to play it safe) grit wetsand the headlights then you can polish and wax.
To be honest, even though the light from your picture has the streaks, it looks 100% better than before, and even just putting a final step of wax would be good enough. |
Originally Posted by mo neenja31
(Post 9176882)
OK that's good to know. When I wetsand with 2500 or 3000, should the headlight be slightly hazy again? And I have Turtle Wax polishing compound as well, is it worth applying that too?
Shouldn't be hazy again, make sure that when sanding there is always a good amount of water and don't wet sand too much. Wipe the light down after. Then yes, you can apply the polisishing compound, and then the wax. |
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