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Old 04-10-2019, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by krismax
If you don't think it's fun to do this, and find it as a bother. I recommend you move on from the car.

I can't see this costing less than $1500-1800 without the cost of the car.

Some people are maxima specialists, you are not one.

People who can take a tranny out in 30 min,find engines for cheap.I can get DE's for less than $200 all day long.

Lovers of maxima's if your not . (i have loved these cars for over 25 years.)Don't bother.

If it's just a car for you ,move on.

If you don't get the *****'s looking at a 6 speed maxima .Like a WW2 tank rebuilder.

Don't bother.
No, I'm pretty sure I'm going to do it. It's funny how some folks think I think it's a bother, when I never said anything of the sort. Being thrifty/ practical doing this doesn't mean I think it's a bother. And stop putting yourself on a pedestal, don't have to have "loved maximas for 25 years" to not make it a project worth the effort. What an egomaniac.
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Old 04-10-2019, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamrod
You definitely can use the 09-12 motors, its just HIGHLY recommended that you replace the oil gallery gaskets. You are already going to have the motor out and on a stand, so it really isnt that much more. You just need to pop the timing chain cover off to get to them. Personally I did not want to deal with that BS so thats why I opted for a 2014 motor, the fact that it had only 7,000 miles was also a factor though lol. Again the biggest thing here is whether or not you are willing to do the work yourself. Theres a bunch of stupid little things like grinding down some stuff on the motor, adjusting the cam signal plates, and swapping over the upper+lower oil pans from your old motor, that are all very straight forward and easy but I can definitely see a shop bleeding you dry to do it since its "custom" work. If you are incapable/unwilling to pull + install the motor yourself, doing those steps yourself would at least cut down on expenses greatly.

In a nutshell, unless you want to get your hands dirty, stop now and save your money. It would be much easier and likely more in your interests to find a better 5.5gen maxima.
Where did the conversation ever lead about keeping the pulley accessories running off the HR serpentine belt? Did that ever present itself as a viable option?
The cam signal plates- is that something that would be taken care of by the swap kit? Or is the kit not necessary?

Thanks for being helpful unlike the poster I responded to above.
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Old 04-10-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chop_sooie
Where did the conversation ever lead about keeping the pulley accessories running off the HR serpentine belt? Did that ever present itself as a viable option?
The cam signal plates- is that something that would be taken care of by the swap kit? Or is the kit not necessary?

Thanks for being helpful unlike the poster I responded to above.
You can keep the HR accessories, read User1's thread, as far as I am aware he is the first one to document doing that. IMO its way more work + cost to do unless your HR motor is coming with those accessories included - unless thats the case, it is easier as well as cheaper to use the DE accessories. Cam signal plates involve taking your valve covers off, removing the cam signal plates, grinding some stuff off, and then putting them back on at a different angle than they were originally. Has nothing to do with the swap kit - which consists of the inverters and some brackets for using DE accessories (alternator, PS pump, etc). You 100% need inverters, the rest you can fab up yourself with whatever junk you have laying around - as long as your accessory pulleys are lining up adequately that is all that matters. The kit Nisformance sells is overpriced for what it is, as again, you only *really* need the inverters from it (he sells them separate). The kit also has the harness adapter needed for the 75mm throttle body - you can make that yourself as well with donor connectors and some wiring, theres a wiring schematic for that in one of the swap threads as well. That being said I bought the kit myself because I didnt (at the time) feel confident about rigging stuff up. But, if you are competent to do a motor swap, you will be competent to measure and cut a piece of metal and drill a hole or two into it as well as soldering some wiring. Korn's thread would be good to reference if you want to fab stuff up yourself, as thats the route he went.

On another note, I entirely agree with what krismax is saying, even if you dont think he is being helpful. You are definitely, absolutely, 100% wasting your time and money doing this project if its "just another car". You can better spend your time/money/effort in other ways at lower cost and equal success. If you REALLY like having a 5.5gen maxima, not because its a running, driving car, but because you intrinsically like the car itself, then go for it. But if you just see it as a decent deal or something, dont bother - theres better deals to be found. My $.02

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Old 04-10-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamrod
You can keep the HR accessories, read User1's thread, as far as I am aware he is the first one to document doing that. IMO its way more work + cost to do unless your HR motor is coming with those accessories included. Cam signal plates involve taking your valve covers off, removing the cam signal plates, grinding some stuff off, and then putting them back on at a different angle than they were originally. Has nothing to do with the swap kit - which consists of the inverters and some brackets for using DE accessories (alternator, PS pump, etc). You 100% need inverters, the rest you can fab up yourself with whatever junk you have laying around - as long as your accessory pulleys are lining up adequately that is all that matters. The kit Nisformance sells is overpriced for what it is, as again, you only *really* need the inverters from it (he sells them separate). That being said I bought the kit myself because I didnt (at the time) feel confident about rigging stuff up. But, if you are competent to do a motor swap, you will be competent to measure and cut a piece of metal and drill a hole or two into it.

On another note, I entirely agree with what krismax is saying, even if you dont think he is being helpful. You are definitely wasting your time doing this project if its "just another car". You can better spend your time/money/effort in other ways at lower cost and equal success. If you REALLY like having a 5.5gen maxima, not because its a running, driving car, but because you intrinsically like the car itself, then go for it. But if you just see it as a decent deal or something, dont bother - theres better deals to be found. My $.02
I'd do it not only because I strongly prefer driving a manual and I can get this car for so cheap, which makes it seem ready-made for this swap, but also because I like challenging myself and working on car projects. I don't know if I'd necessarily say I love the 5.5 gen Maxima more than anything else- I had a great affinity for the 99 Maxima I owned before the 02 automatic I own now-- but I sure don't have anything against the car, and the swap would be a fun thing to do... my main holdbacks are cost (I am not rich and don't have money to blow trying it myself only to end up having to take it somewhere and get it fixed when I couldn't do it, which is exactly why I'm trying to learn as much about the swap as possible) and lack of expertise. My other car is a 69 bug, and once I actually had someone with the knowledge and experience help me take the engine out of mine, I could immediately do it myself from that point on without having to rely on anyone else. It's just getting over that hump, and proving to myself I can do it.

Back to the actual swap details- I don't have a problem grinding down pulleys, or modding a cam signal plate etc. I assume the DE sensors run off 5 volts and the HRs run off 12 volts thus the reason for the inverters... but any money I can save will help me out.

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