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Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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Finally SE Gauges arrived!!!!!!!!

finally got the gauges and will be posting pics up soon of my new SE gauges!!!!!
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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Re: Finally SE Gauges arrived!!!!!!!!

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finally got the gauges and will be posting pics up soon of my new SE gauges!!!!!
Kewl, keep us informed! I'm thinking about doing this myself, but I don't wanna screw up the calibration of the needles. Did you buy the gauges new? How much did you pay? Thanks
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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Good luck! Is it one whole cluster or do you have to remove each gauge face to install a new gauge face?
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Re: Re: Finally SE Gauges arrived!!!!!!!!

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Kewl, keep us informed! I'm thinking about doing this myself, but I don't wanna screw up the calibration of the needles. Did you buy the gauges new? How much did you pay? Thanks
I bought the whole cluster from ebay for 177.00

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Good luck! Is it one whole cluster or do you have to remove each gauge face to install a new gauge face?
No i got the whole cluster
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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I am sure they are going to look nice, but why didn't you just buy the SE to begin with? It seem that you are going out of your way to recreate what you could of had if you just got the SE instead.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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I am sure they are going to look nice, but why didn't you just buy the SE to begin with? It seem that you are going out of your way to recreate what you could of had if you just got the SE instead.
It's more cost efficient to buy a GXE and mod it out than to buy an SE and mod it out.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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i finally got it in took about 15 min and i was wondering how come my mileage is showing 19000 instead of 47000 anybody have an idea

check out my webpage in a few minutes it will have pics
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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if you mean that originally you had 49k and now that you installed the new cluster and you are only registering 19k it is b/c the odometer is in the cluster. I would not believe that it is ECU controlled therefore you just lowered the mileage on your car. Kinda like turning back the odometer the electronic way ...
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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could i get in trouble for this????
could the dealer find out



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Old Feb 8, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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I heard that ECU's actually keep track of miles on cars now, so if they hook it up the true mileage would show up! Also your dealership if you had the car serviced probably have you in the system.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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How bout those Cefiro Aluminum gauge clusters that are supposed to fit our 5th Gens? The Cefiro Aluminum ones look H O T! I just want to know where and how much.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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so what should i do

should i inform the dealership or just leave it the way it is
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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well

Be carefull with that.
That can cause TMU (true milage unknown) record to appear on your title. That will suck big time when you sell the car.
The carfax system would show TMUs.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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i think ill just lay down low concerning that subject and if it comes to major work on the car ill just put the old one back in, i just hate to do this
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Dario
i think ill just lay down low concerning that subject and if it comes to major work on the car ill just put the old one back in, i just hate to do this
if the ECU, truely does keep track of the miles then you are screwed, even if u LAY DOWN LOW. Even if u never have to take the car in to the dealer, what if the person who buys it does??To whomever u sell, if they go to the dealer, they will find out that your GXE meter miles show less than your ECU does, thats considering if u take out the SE meter bfr selling,,,,,Did i make any sense??
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Whoa! Interesting, VERY interesting...

It looks like you LOST some fuel too. J/K.

Anyways, what do the original GXE guages look like at night? I'm sick of the "Mario Bros" RED/BLUE/GREY colors of my SE guages at night.

I like the "titanium" day look, but the night look is kinda cheap looking to me.
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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My opinion

Contact the dealer and get this problem fixed so that you odometer shows the correct mileage. When you sell the car, you must sign a form saying that you have not rolled back the odometer. This will cause problems in the future for you if you don't fix the problem.

BTW, the gauges look great!
Old Feb 8, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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Even contacting the dealer to correct the problem will raise questions, even though it is a noble cause. Can't you just take the paper gauge face stuff and install it into your current cluster? You could keep your current cluster and original mileage but get the white face gauges. While you are in there, it would be prime opportunity to install some chrome gauge rings, too, if it suits you.
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by Dario
i finally got it in took about 15 min and i was wondering how come my mileage is showing 19000 instead of 47000 anybody have an idea

check out my webpage in a few minutes it will have pics
Was the installation process dificult? Plug in Play? disconnect any wires?
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But I got a 2000 nissan maxima SE for $18,800 $3,000 under book value.
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Re: Whoa! Interesting, VERY interesting...

Originally posted by IceY2K1
It looks like you LOST some fuel too. J/K.

Anyways, what do the original GXE guages look like at night? I'm sick of the "Mario Bros" RED/BLUE/GREY colors of my SE guages at night.

I like the "titanium" day look, but the night look is kinda cheap looking to me.
any pics of that? i'd be very interested to see what they look like. btw, do the i30s have different clusters too? or are they the same as the se?
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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does anyone know for sure if the mileage is in the ecu or the guage cluster? there's should be a way to set the correct mileage in case of damage repair or cluster replacement due to internal electrical damage etc..
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Re: Whoa! Interesting, VERY interesting...

Originally posted by IceY2K1
It looks like you LOST some fuel too. J/K.

Anyways, what do the original GXE guages look like at night? I'm sick of the "Mario Bros" RED/BLUE/GREY colors of my SE guages at night.

I like the "titanium" day look, but the night look is kinda cheap looking to me.
The GXE gauges look like they do in the day all black
Old Feb 9, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by TaiwanMaxima


Was the installation process dificult? Plug in Play? disconnect any wires?
just plug it right up to the old wires took about 15 min
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what if i were to reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery do u think this might do it???? or is the mileage held in the cluster like everyone thinks it is, to me it seems it is because why would the SE cluster read 19000 and the GXE read 49000 and if the ECU held the milage it would reset the cluster wouldnt it, am i making any sense????
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Originally posted by Dario
what if i were to reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery do u think this might do it???? or is the mileage held in the cluster like everyone thinks it is, to me it seems it is because why would the SE cluster read 19000 and the GXE read 49000 and if the ECU held the milage it would reset the cluster wouldnt it, am i making any sense????
also is there a way to change the miles if it is held in the ECU, fgor example if u lease and go oveer the miles... would u be able to roll them back without the dealer knowing it?
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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hopefully the miles are held in the ECU, i wouldnt think nissan would make it so easy to lie on your miles oh well ill find out this monday when i go ask them
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well if nissan can't reset the miles (if you want them to actually do this for you on the new cluster) then what do they do if someone comes in for a defective speedo and such? There is no way to change out one gauge so they have to change the entire cluster. So the question is how do they handle it?

Personally I wouldn't worry about it. Just my opinion. It's not necessarily that I don't have a problem screwing w/ the mileage b/c I do ... but as long as you are honest when you trade it in or sell it to someone I wouldn't have a problem.
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Originally posted by ispeed
well if nissan can't reset the miles (if you want them to actually do this for you on the new cluster) then what do they do if someone comes in for a defective speedo and such? There is no way to change out one gauge so they have to change the entire cluster. So the question is how do they handle it?

Personally I wouldn't worry about it. Just my opinion. It's not necessarily that I don't have a problem screwing w/ the mileage b/c I do ... but as long as you are honest when you trade it in or sell it to someone I wouldn't have a problem.
Personally, If I were purchasing a used car and the owner told me "Oh, the odometer reading is not accurate because I changed out the gauge cluster, but the ECU has the real odometer mileage so don't worry", I would be out of there in a heartbeat.
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Personally, If I were purchasing a used car and the owner told me "Oh, the odometer reading is not accurate because I changed out the gauge cluster, but the ECU has the real odometer mileage so don't worry", I would be out of there in a heartbeat.
Dario keep us posted when u find out what to do at the dealer.
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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Why not just swap the faces from the se to the gxe gauges?
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by ispeed
well if nissan can't reset the miles (if you want them to actually do this for you on the new cluster) then what do they do if someone comes in for a defective speedo and such? There is no way to change out one gauge so they have to change the entire cluster. So the question is how do they handle it?

Personally I wouldn't worry about it. Just my opinion. It's not necessarily that I don't have a problem screwing w/ the mileage b/c I do ... but as long as you are honest when you trade it in or sell it to someone I wouldn't have a problem.
thats what im wondering how would they handle this situation????

and i dont think you can change out the faces from the GXE to SE can you

hopefully they can roll up the odometer to the correct mileage and that the ECU does have the correct mileage inside the memory because if not im going back to the GXE gauges i dont want but its the right thing to do

ill keep everyone posted
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Originally posted by Dario


i dont want but its the right thing to do

ill keep everyone posted
kudos.
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Originally posted by Dario


thats what im wondering how would they handle this situation????

and i dont think you can change out the faces from the GXE to SE can you?

hopefully they can roll up the odometer to the correct mileage and that the ECU does have the correct mileage inside the memory because if not im going back to the GXE gauges i dont want but its the right thing to do

ill keep everyone posted
it HAS to be possible to fix...regarding the question about changing the guages, i asked my dealer for a set of SE guages for my GLE, they gave me a price and a setting fee for the guages, which means you can switch them around if you want...so they have to be able to set this problem straight too. the only reason i didnt get the guages from them is because they were asking $200 for the guage cluster and charging a $21 setting fee.
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 09:42 PM
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sounds good hopefully i can keep my SE gauges
Old Feb 11, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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well nissan said that they cant recalibrate the cluster unless its under warranty, so im going to try to change out the faces or maybe the circuit boards instead.

Its just strange that Nissan doesnt keep the true mileage in the ECM
at least thats what they told me, they no longer have it in the ECM but in the cluster instead. In my opinion if someone wanted to cheat on their miles and trade in at a higher value they just made it so easy for them to do it.

I WILL HAVE THESE GAUGES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER but the right way not the wrong way ill keep you all posted
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hey guys

hey saw this on ebay just thought you might want to check it out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...tem=1804517362
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wait they said they dont have it in the ECU? U mean if I buy a new cluste rand install it myself, there would be no way for them to detect the real mileage?
Old Feb 11, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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Re: hey guys

Originally posted by Cali2kMax
hey saw this on ebay just thought you might want to check it out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...tem=1804517362
In the description it says that this gauge cluster can be reprogrammed for your mileage. So as crazy as it sounds, the Nissan guy must be correct in saying that the ECU does not have the mileage.



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