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What is Nissan doing? Their own competition for the Max

Old Feb 15, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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What is Nissan doing? Their own competition for the Max

The G35 is only $1500 more (MSRP) than a Max Se. With everything that is in the G35, the Max is going to have to come down in price!
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From the Infiniti page:

G35 Luxury Model, includes all G35 standard equipment ($27,100 MSRP)

G35 Luxury Model includes the following standard equipment:

PERFORMANCE
260-hp 3.5-liter (3,498cc) DOHC V6 engine, aluminum-alloy block and heads. Low-friction molybdenum-coated pistons.
Electronically controlled 5-speed automatic transmission. Driver-adaptive learning algorithm senses driving style and adjusts automatic shifting accordingly. Manual shift mode offers sequentially selected manual gearshifts.
Brake Assist senses emergency-braking situations via how the driver depresses the brake pedal. If emergency-braking is detected, Brake Assist applies maximum brake force until the brake pedal is released.
Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD) varies front-to-rear brake proportioning based on vehicle load, for improved braking performance.
Traction Control System (TCS) senses wheelspin while accelerating, and automatically reduces (TCS) engine output, to help regain traction.
Infiniti Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC)1 compares the driver's input to the vehicle's response while cornering. By selectively braking individual wheels and/or reducing engine output, VDC can help the driver maintain control of the vehicle.
Anti-lock Braking System (4-wheel, 4-channel ABS)

EXTERIOR
Comprehensive airflow management, including underbody sculpting, for low 0.27 coefficient of drag (Cd ) and zero-lift front aerodynamics (0.26 Cd and zero-lift front and rear with Aero Package)
Front-fender sightlines allow driver to position front wheels in corners more accurately
Aluminum hood
High-mount halogen headlights for improved illumination from higher vantage point
Integrated front fog lights
UV-cut tinted glass reduces transmission of radiant heat to vehicle's interior
Dual power outside mirrors
Speed-sensing wipers increase intermittent wipes as vehicle speed increases
Aluminum door-sill plates
Rear doors open a full 80 degrees for easier rear-seat entry and exit
Electrically operated trunk lid release
LED taillights and center high-mounted stoplight (CHMSL) offer quicker illumination, lower power consumption and longer life than conventional bulbs
Rear-window defroster with timer
Dual chrome exhaust finishers
16-inch aluminum alloy wheels all-season 205/65R16 95V tires

INTERIOR
Automatic Temperature Control climate-control system with microfiltration
Rear-seat heater ducts under front seats
Power windows with illuminated switches and front-window auto up/down with anti-pinch feature
Retained accessory power for windows and sunroof (if equipped)
Illuminated entry system with delayed fade-out
Front sun visor extensions
Overhead sunglasses storage
Dual overhead front maplights, rear seat reading lights
Front seatback map pockets. Front-pasenger storage slot in center console
Dual front and rear cup holders
Front armrest with storage compartment and 12-volt power outlet
Fold-down rear-center armrest with locking trunk pass-through
Front and rear carpeted floor mats
Cargo net and tie-down anchors in trunk

INSTRUMENTATION AND DRIVER CONTROLS
Fine-vision electronic analog instrumentation
Tilt Meter tilts steering column and gauge cluster together for improved visibility
Dual digital trip odometers
Multi-information display for climate control, outside temperature and digital compass
Cruise control with steering-wheel-mounted switches
Infiniti analog clock

SEATING AND TRIM 6-way manual driver's seat with adjustable lumbar support, 4-way manual passenger's seat
Unique seat optimized for driver
Titanium-tinted interior trim
Leather-wrapped 3-spoke steering wheel
Titanium-tinted and leather-appointed shift ****

AUDIO
120-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM/cassette audio system with in-dash, single-slot 6-disc CD autochanger
Dual in-glass diversity antenna. The radio tuner compares the signal strength of both antenna, and automatically selects the strongest signal

SECURITY
Remote keyless entry system
Remote power-opening of windows; closing via exterior door lock
Infiniti Immobilizer System embeds an encoded transponder chip into ignition key. The engine control computer will not allow the engine to start without the correct key and transponder
Vehicle Security System sounds alarm if intrusion via doors, hood or trunk is detected
Battery saver helps prevent accidental discharge if electrical accessories are left on

OCCUPANT SAFETY
Front and outboard rear head restraints. Active front head restraints move forward and upward in certain rear-impact collisions, to help reduce whiplash-type injuries
3-point height-adjustable front seat belts with Emergency Locking Retractors (ELR), pretensioners and load limiters
3-point rear seat belts with ELR and Automatic Locking Retractors (ALR)
Dual-stage front supplemental air bags2
Front seat supplemental side-impact air bags2
Supplemental curtain side-impact air bags2 for front and rear passengers
Front- and outboard-rear 2-way adjustable head restraints.
LATCH System (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) simplifies installation of compatible child restraint seats
Emergency inside trunk release
First Aid kit
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 09:59 AM
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What's a G35...duh...uh...hmmm

My man, old conversation. We've had this discussion 20 times in regards to the Altima, Maxima, G35, I35, etc.

Q: What is Nissan doing?
A: Trying to sell more cars.

In the end, I really don't think they care which one you buy...as long as you buy Nissan/Infiniti.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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You can say the same for the I35 and Altima too ya know.

Anyway, the current Max is, for the lack of a better term, Old school. Next year (or late this year) the new Max will come out and that will create a bigger gap between the G35, Alt and I35.

That's just how the wheel turns, at one point a certain Model is da bomb but usually on it's way out the newere Model comes out better until the older one can retreat, revamp and remarket itself.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Also, a $1500.00 price difference is not quite accurate...

A G35 Luxury would also need a Premium Package, a Sport-Tuned Suspension Package, and an Aero Package to be on the same comparison scale of features etc in a Max SE (obviously it will have more). Do that and all of a sudden the price for a G35 is now $33,675 MSRP. A comparable SE (less Nav) has an MSRP of $30,433.

Nevermind the absence of a real tranny, a stick.

Your choice, but I do see a somewhat different market being served by each car, especially if a person does not want an autotragic.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by soundmike
You can say the same for the I35 and Altima too ya know.

Anyway, the current Max is, for the lack of a better term, Old school. Next year (or late this year) the new Max will come out and that will create a bigger gap between the G35, Alt and I35.

That's just how the wheel turns, at one point a certain Model is da bomb but usually on it's way out the newere Model comes out better until the older one can retreat, revamp and remarket itself.
To add to your response this usally sucks for the consumer looking to always have the latest and greatest, and Nissan loves doing this.

Besides 27K gets you alot but it's still the base model and I didn't see any mention of leather, so good luck finding a G35 for 27K. I would still rather have the G35 though for 27K than a 27K Altima though
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by perrymaxima


To add to your response this usally sucks for the consumer looking to always have the latest and greatest, and Nissan loves doing this.

Besides 27K gets you alot but it's still the base model and I didn't see any mention of leather, so good luck finding a G35 for 27K. I would still rather have the G35 though for 27K than a 27K Altima though
For 32.7 it is loaded...w/Luxury and Sports package and NAV.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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Re: What's a G35...duh...uh...hmmm

Originally posted by MichaelAE
My man, old conversation. We've had this discussion 20 times in regards to the Altima, Maxima, G35, I35, etc.

Q: What is Nissan doing?
A: Trying to sell more cars.

In the end, I really don't think they care which one you buy...as long as you buy Nissan/Infiniti.
The point of my post is that I am wishfull that Nissan will drop the price of the Max towards this summer (also the topic of an old post). I am just trying to convince myself that I should wait until I can get a fairly loaded max (meridian and hlsd) for ~$24k.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Re: Re: What's a G35...duh...uh...hmmm

Originally posted by stock6speed


The point of my post is that I am wishfull that Nissan will drop the price of the Max towards this summer (also the topic of an old post). I am just trying to convince myself that I should wait until I can get a fairly loaded max (meridian and hlsd) for ~$24k.
I think the title right under ur name should explain it all......


Adam
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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Re: Re: What's a G35...duh...uh...hmmm

Originally posted by stock6speed
The point of my post is that I am wishfull that Nissan will drop the price of the Max towards this summer (also the topic of an old post). I am just trying to convince myself that I should wait until I can get a fairly loaded max (meridian and hlsd) for ~$24k.
I doubt the G35 will affect Max pricing because Nissan will want to pretend they are marketed at different target customers. I think the Altima and Maxima more directly affect each other's pricing. My $.02.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 12:21 PM
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MAX is for MAXimum fun.....G35......i don't know what that his for
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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let's see...

G35

Gee, 35 grand?



Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
MAX is for MAXimum fun.....G35......i don't know what that his for
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Re: Re: Re: What's a G35...duh...uh...hmmm

Originally posted by 2000MaximaSE


I think the title right under ur name should explain it all......


Adam

LOL!!

good one
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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Another version of the maxima?

Originally posted by soundmike
You can say the same for the I35 and Altima too ya know.

Anyway, the current Max is, for the lack of a better term, Old school. Next year (or late this year) the new Max will come out and that will create a bigger gap between the G35, Alt and I35.

That's just how the wheel turns, at one point a certain Model is da bomb but usually on it's way out the newere Model comes out better until the older one can retreat, revamp and remarket itself.
So, the 2003 model Maxima is going to be a revamped version? I have a hard time seeing that after they just updated the Max for the 2002 model. If they do, expect some ****ed off Maxima owners.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Another version of the maxima?

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So, the 2003 model Maxima is going to be a revamped version? I have a hard time seeing that after they just updated the Max for the 2002 model. If they do, expect some ****ed off Maxima owners.
This has been discussed dozens of times.

Yes, all indications are for a revamp for 2003.

No, a simple engine change and cosmetics do not constitute a revamp...just an update, so for all intents and purposes, 2000-2002 will all be considered 5th gen's while the 2003 will start the 6th.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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Re: Another version of the maxima?

Originally posted by Beavanjb
So, the 2003 model Maxima is going to be a revamped version? I have a hard time seeing that after they just updated the Max for the 2002 model. If they do, expect some ****ed off Maxima owners.
It is pretty solid information that the next Maxima will be newly revamped. They are moving production to the US, several press releases have been made to this extent. We don't know much about the new Maxima, but it will be different.

They didn't do much to the Maxima in 2002...appearance is pretty similar, interior is the same with the addition of the NAV option and HLSD and stuff like that. Regardless, I would expect the 2K2 resale value to tank in 2003...but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Re: Another version of the maxima?

Originally posted by MichaelAE

It is pretty solid information that the next Maxima will be newly revamped. They are moving production to the US, several press releases have been made to this extent. We don't know much about the new Maxima, but it will be different.

They didn't do much to the Maxima in 2002...appearance is pretty similar, interior is the same with the addition of the NAV option and HLSD and stuff like that. Regardless, I would expect the 2K2 resale value to tank in 2003...but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Doesn't matter much to me, obviously they have alot of money to spend on R&D now that the 350Z is complete. For a little blasphemy I've been thinking of dumping the Max and grabbing the Z.

In general, I don't care how many times things are discussed in here, it's upto the people in here to decide if they want to bother replying. If it was easy access public knowledge I doubt many people would even buy a 2K2 Max if they knew a completely new version was coming shortly. Looks like now may be a good time to sell?
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Re: Re: Re: Another version of the maxima?

Originally posted by Beavanjb
Doesn't matter much to me, obviously they have alot of money to spend on R&D now that the 350Z is complete. For a little blasphemy I've been thinking of dumping the Max and grabbing the Z.

In general, I don't care how many times things are discussed in here, it's upto the people in here to decide if they want to bother replying. If it was easy access public knowledge I doubt many people would even buy a 2K2 Max if they knew a completely new version was coming shortly. Looks like now may be a good time to sell?
Well, it is quite "easy access public knowledge." Nissan North America did a press release in September, 2001 announcing the move of Maxima production to the Smyrna, Tenn. plant and that the production would begin their in 2003 on an "all-new model that will continue the strong legacy of the current model." So, anybody who bought a 2002 Maxima after September, 2001, did so when their was clear public information regarding the redesign in 2003. I'm sure there is a chance that this car will sell as a 2004 model, but it certainly will become available in 2003 regardless of the named model year.

Dumping the Max for a Z is a great idea if you only need a two-seater...hell, I'd say its the best of ideas. With NISMO announcing that they will be distributing to the US in the fall of this year, I'm sure that the 350Z will get a list of nice modifications that can be purchased under warranty.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Another version of the maxima?

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Well, it is quite "easy access public knowledge." Nissan North America did a press release in September, 2001 announcing the move of Maxima production to the Smyrna, Tenn. plant and that the production would begin their in 2003 on an "all-new model that will continue the strong legacy of the current model." So, anybody who bought a 2002 Maxima after September, 2001, did so when their was clear public information regarding the redesign in 2003. I'm sure there is a chance that this car will sell as a 2004 model, but it certainly will become available in 2003 regardless of the named model year.

Dumping the Max for a Z is a great idea if you only need a two-seater...hell, I'd say its the best of ideas. With NISMO announcing that they will be distributing to the US in the fall of this year, I'm sure that the 350Z will get a list of nice modifications that can be purchased under warranty.
Ok, 2004 model makes more sense, otherwise they'd be the only car company I know of to put out a brand new model only a year after updating the old model.

Actually a 2 seater is probably all I need. I'll have to check, but I think all the local dealers have already finished selling all the Z's that will be available in 2002. Of course then the question becomes, what color?

Anyway, the second half of the prior response wasn't directed at you, so no hard feelings.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another version of the maxima?

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Ok, 2004 model makes more sense, otherwise they'd be the only car company I know of to put out a brand new model only a year after updating the old model.

Actually a 2 seater is probably all I need. I'll have to check, but I think all the local dealers have already finished selling all the Z's that will be available in 2002. Of course then the question becomes, what color?

Anyway, the second half of the prior response wasn't directed at you, so no hard feelings.
It will be sold in early 2003 according to reports, so I don't really think the model year assigned matters. I think other manufacturers have pulled similar stunts. The 5th gen was really updated each year. They added the Anniversary Edition in 2001 and then the new engine in 2002. I can't think of another car maker off the bat, but Nissan can't be the first...or can they?

I say spray paint your Z with a nice electric blue.

No hard feelings at all.
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