finally raced a tl-s............
02-20-2002, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by mattattax
it's (as usual) all gonna come down to the driver, with the max driver having an advantage of course, not to mention the extra money to spend on mods, or food in some people's case
it's (as usual) all gonna come down to the driver, with the max driver having an advantage of course, not to mention the extra money to spend on mods, or food in some people's case
Foooood.....mmmmmm.....
02-20-2002, 09:41 PM
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your 1999 max KILLED the TLS?
I will admit the 2002 max has an edge on the TLS... stock vs stock. But no where anyone can say the max can KILL the TLS, or even say the TLS can KILL the max. They are very close.
Hey did I meet you at the Chicago meet we had by hooters???
your 1999 max KILLED the TLS?
I will admit the 2002 max has an edge on the TLS... stock vs stock. But no where anyone can say the max can KILL the TLS, or even say the TLS can KILL the max. They are very close.
Hey did I meet you at the Chicago meet we had by hooters???
02-20-2002, 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by mattattax
it's (as usual) all gonna come down to the driver, with the max driver having an advantage of course, not to mention the extra money to spend on mods, or food in some people's case
it's (as usual) all gonna come down to the driver, with the max driver having an advantage of course, not to mention the extra money to spend on mods, or food in some people's case
Foooood.....mmmmmm.....
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02-20-2002, 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
CHI99Limited
your 1999 max KILLED the TLS?
I will admit the 2002 max has an edge on the TLS... stock vs stock. But no where anyone can say the max can KILL or the TLS, or even say the TLS can KILL the max. They are very close.
CHI99Limited
your 1999 max KILLED the TLS?
I will admit the 2002 max has an edge on the TLS... stock vs stock. But no where anyone can say the max can KILL or the TLS, or even say the TLS can KILL the max. They are very close.
02-20-2002, 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited
Your from Chicago right??? Come meet me somewhere and you will see what ill do to a stock tl-s. Im not saying ill beat you with your mods but i did spank my buddy and have 2 of our friends as witnesses.
Your from Chicago right??? Come meet me somewhere and you will see what ill do to a stock tl-s. Im not saying ill beat you with your mods but i did spank my buddy and have 2 of our friends as witnesses.
Are you auto??
02-20-2002, 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
Name the place and time. I wont race you since i know that wont be fair, but i would like to see you go against a stock TLS.
Are you auto??
Name the place and time. I wont race you since i know that wont be fair, but i would like to see you go against a stock TLS.
Are you auto??
02-20-2002, 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
Name the place and time. I wont race you since i know that wont be fair, but i would like to see you go against a stock TLS.
Are you auto??
Name the place and time. I wont race you since i know that wont be fair, but i would like to see you go against a stock TLS.
Are you auto??
02-20-2002, 10:05 PM
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Red CLS.. yea thats Johns. His car isnt working right. Some some odd reason hes not getting the same dyno numbers as me and another CLS owner. If you are running 14 flat, then **** im out. So im not going to run with you. I know my limits. But still i dont think you can KILL my car. Beat, perhaps.
Yea I was up at that meet, i had the black TLS with the system in my trunk. I didnt have the bodykit on at that time. I didnt have my engine mods at that time either. Just an intake.
i will run with the 99 auto max then. I was just saying he wont KILL me.
Red CLS.. yea thats Johns. His car isnt working right. Some some odd reason hes not getting the same dyno numbers as me and another CLS owner. If you are running 14 flat, then **** im out.
So im not going to run with you. I know my limits. But still i dont think you can KILL my car. Beat, perhaps. Yea I was up at that meet, i had the black TLS with the system in my trunk. I didnt have the bodykit on at that time. I didnt have my engine mods at that time either. Just an intake.
i will run with the 99 auto max then. I was just saying he wont KILL me.
02-20-2002, 10:05 PM
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hey CrazyAcura,
Have you dynoed your car at all or taken it to the track? I know the Comptech Headers give huge gains on the J32A2 engine. I'd think you could hit mid-14's at least with the headers + your other mods too. Beware Maxima owners
Have you dynoed your car at all or taken it to the track? I know the Comptech Headers give huge gains on the J32A2 engine. I'd think you could hit mid-14's at least with the headers + your other mods too. Beware Maxima owners
02-20-2002, 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Acura2001CL-S
Laugh it up. The fact is that the 6sp CL-S will be the fastest Honda ever made except the NSX. Thank you for playing, next please!
Laugh it up. The fact is that the 6sp CL-S will be the fastest Honda ever made except the NSX. Thank you for playing, next please!
I can't help but reply to a few of your ignorant comments. A 6spd CL-S will in no way "kill" a 6spd max from a dead stop or on the highway, infact there is no dow't in my mind that a 6spd max will own a 6spd CL-S at any speed. Does the word Torque meen anthing to you? 6spd max's are putting down 220-225 FWTQ(stock). Auto max's are making in the ball park of (215 FWTQ). This translates into nissan underating the 2K2 maxima, in reality the max is making approx. 280 Crank TQ. Now the CL-S will probably put down less then 200 FWTQ, probably more in the range of 190. This my friend will allow the max to have a nice advantage over a CL-S 6spd from the launch. How about the extra 200 LB's the CL-S is carrying around? Again this will give a nice advantage to the max.
I don't know how good the gearing is on the 6spd CL-S but the gearing for the 2K2 is optimal seeing that the HP and TQ curve is so flat. A 5spd would have worked just fine.
Ignorant comment # 2.
the max looks like a bus
02-20-2002, 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
hey CrazyAcura,
Have you dynoed your car at all or taken it to the track? I know the Comptech Headers give huge gains on the J32A2 engine. I'd think you could hit mid-14's at least with the headers + your other mods too. Beware Maxima owners
hey CrazyAcura,
Have you dynoed your car at all or taken it to the track? I know the Comptech Headers give huge gains on the J32A2 engine. I'd think you could hit mid-14's at least with the headers + your other mods too. Beware Maxima owners
Well i can my car stock last year, and got a 15.1... as of now, with the same mods i have, my buddy in a cls ran a 14.2 at union grove WI. Yes i have dynoed, im at 227hp, and 212lbs torque. So I hope to be near low 14s this spring when the track opens up.
What we need is a 2002 max at union grove to run times. Just to see.
02-20-2002, 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
BriGuyMax
Red CLS.. yea thats Johns. His car isnt working right. Some some odd reason hes not getting the same dyno numbers as me and another CLS owner. If you are running 14 flat, then **** im out. So im not going to run with you. I know my limits. But still i dont think you can KILL my car. Beat, perhaps.
Yea I was up at that meet, i had the black TLS with the system in my trunk. I didnt have the bodykit on at that time. I didnt have my engine mods at that time either. Just an intake.
i will run with the 99 auto max then. I was just saying he wont KILL me.
BriGuyMax
Red CLS.. yea thats Johns. His car isnt working right. Some some odd reason hes not getting the same dyno numbers as me and another CLS owner. If you are running 14 flat, then **** im out.
So im not going to run with you. I know my limits. But still i dont think you can KILL my car. Beat, perhaps. Yea I was up at that meet, i had the black TLS with the system in my trunk. I didnt have the bodykit on at that time. I didnt have my engine mods at that time either. Just an intake.
i will run with the 99 auto max then. I was just saying he wont KILL me.
I never said the auto max would kill you....I think it'd be a pretty good race....he can run right next to an E36 AUTO M3 from a roll...that ain't half bad....he did beat a STOCK TL-S pretty bad though....it should have been closer...but it wasn't...it was SAD for the TL-S....
02-20-2002, 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
Well i can my car stock last year, and got a 15.1... as of now, with the same mods i have, my buddy in a cls ran a 14.2 at union grove WI. Yes i have dynoed, im at 227hp, and 212lbs torque. So I hope to be near low 14s this spring when the track opens up.
What we need is a 2002 max at union grove to run times. Just to see.
Well i can my car stock last year, and got a 15.1... as of now, with the same mods i have, my buddy in a cls ran a 14.2 at union grove WI. Yes i have dynoed, im at 227hp, and 212lbs torque. So I hope to be near low 14s this spring when the track opens up.
What we need is a 2002 max at union grove to run times. Just to see.
02-20-2002, 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
I never said the auto max would kill you....I think it'd be a pretty good race....he can run right next to an E36 AUTO M3 from a roll...that ain't half bad....he did beat a STOCK TL-S pretty bad though....it should have been closer...but it wasn't...it was SAD for the TL-S....
I never said the auto max would kill you....I think it'd be a pretty good race....he can run right next to an E36 AUTO M3 from a roll...that ain't half bad....he did beat a STOCK TL-S pretty bad though....it should have been closer...but it wasn't...it was SAD for the TL-S....
wow then that is a freak auto!! Congrats!! Poor TLS owner, im sure hes off getting mods left and right for his car now.
02-20-2002, 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited
I remember your car...you had the custom sub in the trunk with like a star like emblem right? There were some nice rides up there, i didnt drive my car that day. Anyways where do you live in Chicagoland?
I remember your car...you had the custom sub in the trunk with like a star like emblem right? There were some nice rides up there, i didnt drive my car that day. Anyways where do you live in Chicagoland?
I live in roselle, its right by bloomingdale.
02-20-2002, 10:37 PM
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Crazy Acura... remember me I replied to your post in the upper midwest forum. Myself, BriGuyMax, and Max2000JP are meeting up on saturday afternoon to dyno at APG Performance. Where that is, I have no clue, but its in Chicagoland. You seem like a pretty decent dude and if you wanna get in some runs with maximas of various levels of modifications that would be cool. I raced that guy John at US41 in Indiana last month. I ran a 14.6 to his 14.68... he said his trap speeds were way down, like 3 mph. Mine were down about 1.5. So we were both running slower than normal. He's a nice guy, and its actually really cool to see an older gentleman into modding a car, especially a nice import.
Anyway I'm talking to briguymax right now its cool if you wanna meet up with us. Let us know.
Anyway I'm talking to briguymax right now its cool if you wanna meet up with us. Let us know.
02-20-2002, 10:46 PM
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Thats sounds cool. I live near APG, its right off of irving park road. So all of you guys are doing dyno runs? I might come by and if i have time i might do a run, but i just had my car dynoed last week at APG. Im really not into racing as much as all of you guys. I mean i plan on putting some heavy chrome 19s soon. So no racing for me.
Yea johns a cool guy, hes always finding ways to mod his car. Thanks to him i have a front and rear tie bars custom made that fit.
But yea if i dont see you guys at APG, then i plan to go to the track at least twice this year just to see my numbers.
Thats sounds cool. I live near APG, its right off of irving park road. So all of you guys are doing dyno runs? I might come by and if i have time i might do a run, but i just had my car dynoed last week at APG. Im really not into racing as much as all of you guys. I mean i plan on putting some heavy chrome 19s soon. So no racing for me.
Yea johns a cool guy, hes always finding ways to mod his car. Thanks to him i have a front and rear tie bars custom made that fit.
But yea if i dont see you guys at APG, then i plan to go to the track at least twice this year just to see my numbers.
02-21-2002, 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
next up, the CD on a 02 max is a very repectable .31(on the SE). Please let me know what the CD is on the 2K2 CL-S. I highly dow't it is much better, probably at best .30. A CD of .01 difference will have very little effect on a highway race or even top speed for that matter. Please let me know the CD for teh CL-S, I am dieing to hear it!
next up, the CD on a 02 max is a very repectable .31(on the SE). Please let me know what the CD is on the 2K2 CL-S. I highly dow't it is much better, probably at best .30. A CD of .01 difference will have very little effect on a highway race or even top speed for that matter. Please let me know the CD for teh CL-S, I am dieing to hear it!
Ok the CD is .32 for the stock CLS stated by acura.
02-21-2002, 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
What we need is a 2002 max at union grove to run times. Just to see.
What we need is a 2002 max at union grove to run times. Just to see.
02-21-2002, 09:48 PM
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Hang_Sideways, that is really funny...
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OK. You guys are right. The Max is faster than the TL-S. A parked TL-S, that is.
OK. You guys are right. The Max is faster than the TL-S. A parked TL-S, that is.
I can't stop laughing
I might ran my friends TL-S soon, if he will want too. I kept up pretty good with him in 2000 SE 5-speed. So with 2002 Maxima, I should do better.
02-21-2002, 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
Ok the CD is .32 for the stock CLS stated by acura.
Ok the CD is .32 for the stock CLS stated by acura.
. For some reason people think the max is not very aero dynamic but in reality it is pretty damn good.
02-21-2002, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
HA! I knew it, the max was more aero dynamic then the CL-S . For some reason people think the max is not very aero dynamic but in reality it is pretty damn good.
HA! I knew it, the max was more aero dynamic then the CL-S
. For some reason people think the max is not very aero dynamic but in reality it is pretty damn good.
if so only the SE is more aero dynamic by 0.01
02-22-2002, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by 2K255HP
Isn't it 0.32 for GXE and GLE max's and 0.31 for the SE?
if so only the SE is more aero dynamic by 0.01
Isn't it 0.32 for GXE and GLE max's and 0.31 for the SE?
if so only the SE is more aero dynamic by 0.01
Just Chopped my roof off... which dropped my CD to .12, lower than your SEs, TLs, and CLs... oh, and F-16s also!
TOP THAT! G
02-22-2002, 10:55 PM
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Re: finally raced a tl-s............
Originally posted by maxgsxr1
ok. i was cruiseing down the highway when i noticed a tl with tinted windows. so i allways wanted to race a tl but just haven't found one to race. anyways he was doing about 75mph . i got close to the rear of his car and it was a brandnew tl-s with a dealer plate.now i figure it wasn't his car so just maybe he would play.next i got beside him and pulled away quickly to let him know what i was up to.i slowed down to 80 and he got right behind me. now i floored it , he gets in the opposite lane and we race to about 120. he could not catch me, i even walked him slowly . i thought he would have passed me with 260 h.p........my car is only a modded 2k1 with auto.
ok. i was cruiseing down the highway when i noticed a tl with tinted windows. so i allways wanted to race a tl but just haven't found one to race. anyways he was doing about 75mph . i got close to the rear of his car and it was a brandnew tl-s with a dealer plate.now i figure it wasn't his car so just maybe he would play.next i got beside him and pulled away quickly to let him know what i was up to.i slowed down to 80 and he got right behind me. now i floored it , he gets in the opposite lane and we race to about 120. he could not catch me, i even walked him slowly . i thought he would have passed me with 260 h.p........my car is only a modded 2k1 with auto.
02-23-2002, 12:59 PM
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Maybe I didn't go far enough back in this thread (oh well) but,
does anyone want to forecast the results of a comparison between the 2k2 Max SE 6sp vs the 2003 TL-S 6sp? (Maybe Honda should make it interesting and increase the J32A2's displacement to 3.5L 
)
)
02-23-2002, 01:06 PM
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Re: Maybe I didn't go far enough back in this thread (oh well) but,
Originally posted by F23A4
does anyone want to forecast the results of a comparison between the 2k2 Max SE 6sp vs the 2003 TL-S 6sp? (Maybe Honda should make it interesting and increase the J32A2's displacement to 3.5L )
does anyone want to forecast the results of a comparison between the 2k2 Max SE 6sp vs the 2003 TL-S 6sp? (Maybe Honda should make it interesting and increase the J32A2's displacement to 3.5L
)
02-23-2002, 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by F23A4
(Though the CLS will probably get it first; kinda like the J32A2 coming out in the CL a year before the TL).
f23a4
(Though the CLS will probably get it first; kinda like the J32A2 coming out in the CL a year before the TL).
f23a4
Honestly i think it would be dumb to put it in the TLS, the reason i think they put it in the CLS was cuz the sales were slow with just an auto... so if they put it in the TLS, that would kill the sales of the CLS again. Wouldnt make sense to me.