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3 runs with an S4....

Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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3 runs with an S4....

Finally got to race one from a dead stop!
All 3 races were the same results...
He would get me by 1/2 on the launch...
2nd gear I would pull up to his front fender...
3rd gear we would be even...
This is in a 2 block race... about a 1/4 mile... a little less because we have to slow down b 4 the next light.
I think he did not launch the car to it's full potential, but I'm not complaining... another good run for the Maxs!
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Yeah when and if he learns to launch his car then you better get ready and counter with the 10 lbs of secret sauce
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by BottleFedMax
Yeah when and if he learns to launch his car then you better get ready and counter with the 10 lbs of secret sauce
Oh, yeah babe...
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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Yeah I agree with the other guys. I think the 0-60 on a manual S4 is like mid 5 sec? But what the hell, if that guy can't drive that's not your fault right. Nice runs
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by SFMax20SE
Finally got to race one from a dead stop!
All 3 races were the same results...
He would get me by 1/2 on the launch...
2nd gear I would pull up to his front fender...
3rd gear we would be even...
This is in a 2 block race... about a 1/4 mile... a little less because we have to slow down b 4 the next light.
I think he did not launch the car to it's full potential, but I'm not complaining... another good run for the Maxs!
Were you running on juice?
Yea once he learns how to lauch it, that's a different story.
Tach that baby up to at least 5k rpms and drop the clutch. AWD does wonders.
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE


Were you running on juice?
Yea once he learns how to lauch it, that's a different story.
Tach that baby up to at least 5k rpms and drop the clutch. AWD does wonders.
Nope... no juice yet... if I had juice, it's bye-bye for him
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

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Nope... no juice yet... if I had juice, it's bye-bye for him
Have you ran the 1/4 mile yet? If so what do you run? The S4 runs a 14.1@98.3 as per Motor Trend. 5.5 0-60
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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My neighbor has an S4 tip. He ran a 14.8 with a trans chip and I'm pretty sure he had an engine chip (1 bar boost increase) in too. I do know the trans chip was in. Launched at full boost. Don't know the temps or anything. I just remember him being a bit disappointed.
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by Joe_R
My neighbor has an S4 tip. He ran a 14.8 with a trans chip and I'm pretty sure he had an engine chip (1 bar boost increase) in too. I do know the trans chip was in. Launched at full boost. Don't know the temps or anything. I just remember him being a bit disappointed.
sorry.. tell him tolearn to drive.. with those mods he should break into 13s..
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SFMax20SE
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Nope... no juice yet... if I had juice, it's bye-bye for him
not really... the S4 is fast... u juicing or not... u gotta have like a 150 shot to keep up with a S4...


Originally posted by Joe_R


My neighbor has an S4 tip. He ran a 14.8 with a trans chip and I'm pretty sure he had an engine chip (1 bar boost increase) in too. I do know the trans chip was in. Launched at full boost. Don't know the temps or anything. I just remember him being a bit disappointed.

he did say he has a tiptronic so it is slower than the manual and he can not to a great launch since he can just torque brake and not drop the clutch at lets say 5k rpm...
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:14 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

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he did say he has a tiptronic so it is slower than the manual and he can not to a great launch since he can just torque brake and not drop the clutch at lets say 5k rpm...

the tiptronic isn't THAT slow...he should get better then a 14.8, you can't tell me a stock 2k2 auto maxima beats him
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 04:50 AM
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im not sure about the weight... but i think the maxima is lighter than a S4... and it does have 255 hp vs 250 in the S4... so y cant it?
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 05:37 AM
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He needs to read up on AW for some tips

Originally posted by psing23



he did say he has a tiptronic so it is slower than the manual and he can not to a great launch since he can just torque brake and not drop the clutch at lets say 5k rpm...

On how to launch and shift. Even if it is a tip, he should be running low, low 14's at worst.
I personally know of a few A6 2.7t tip owners that run 14.1-13.9 with a the engine and tip chip.

Stickshift A6 2.7's can run as fast as 14.4 (my own car)with an average of 14.6-14.7 in complete stock form.
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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Re: He needs to read up on AW for some tips

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On how to launch and shift. Even if it is a tip, he should be running low, low 14's at worst.
I personally know of a few A6 2.7t tip owners that run 14.1-13.9 with a the engine and tip chip.

Stickshift A6 2.7's can run as fast as 14.4 (my own car)with an average of 14.6-14.7 in complete stock form.


so you are telling me with just a tiptronic chip and an engine chip a automatic A6 is faster than a 6speed A6? i dunno for some reason that doesnt sound too true to me...
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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I'm saying exactly that-->

Originally posted by psing23




so you are telling me with just a tiptronic chip and an engine chip a automatic A6 is faster than a 6speed A6? i dunno for some reason that doesnt sound too true to me...
My stock 6 speed runs 14.4-14.5 regularly. For arguements sake, say that the average 6 speed should do the 1/4 in about 14.7-14.8. Several tip A6's have run 14.9-15.0.
There are a few tip A6's (2.7t's were talking here) that run 14.0 with the tip and ecu chips. The average would be approx. 14.1-14.2.
A chipped 6 speed A6 has run 13.6-13.7, with a driver who admittedly isn't an very experienced 1/4 mile racer. This is with a chip only.

Remember, the A6/S4 2.7t engine is underrated at 250hp/258lb ft. Real world figures would be in the 270-275 range. Using the standard 1/4 mile HP calculators, my car was making about 270 hp to run a 14.4 A 96 with a race weight of 4000 lbs.

Adding a chip brings the power up to 310hp/340 lb.ft. Now there is a new generation of chips that bring the power even higher.
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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Re: I'm saying exactly that-->

Originally posted by Jimbrowski
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Using the standard 1/4 mile HP calculators, my car was making about 270 hp to run a 14.4 A 96 with a race weight of 4000 lbs.
/B]


4000 lbs!!!!!?!?!?!

wow, The max only weighs 3200 or so, but alas no AWD.

Anyway that's a great time, but I think something we have all been forgetting to take into account is track conditions on that day. Altitude, humidity, traction, temperature could all work together to put a mid 14 sec car in the low 15's.

Just my two cents!
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE


Have you ran the 1/4 mile yet? If so what do you run? The S4 runs a 14.1@98.3 as per Motor Trend. 5.5 0-60
I haven't ran the quarter mile yet... but keep in mind, magazine numbers are done with professional drivers. I really don't think this guy that I raced was driving the car to it's full potential.
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by SFMax20SE
Finally got to race one from a dead stop!
All 3 races were the same results...
He would get me by 1/2 on the launch...
2nd gear I would pull up to his front fender...
3rd gear we would be even...
This is in a 2 block race... about a 1/4 mile... a little less because we have to slow down b 4 the next light.
I think he did not launch the car to it's full potential, but I'm not complaining... another good run for the Maxs!

Ahhh, this brings back sweet memories. I once had an S4 beside me at a light, and I didn't plan on racing him, but when we took off, it was clear that he wanted to play. About the time we took off, some blue-hair pulled out in his lane about 30 yards ahead or so. He thought he was going to take me and cut in front of me, but I wouldn't let him have it. I remember hearing the engine racing beside me, but he never pulled ahead. Finally, he submitted and had to pull in behind me. I had to laugh, because I knew he clearly had more under the hood than I did, but I made him think twice about a Max..

B
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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My neighbor was expecting low 14's. He's been working on his T-Type that runs low 12's. He does know how to drive, but I argree that he needs more time in the seat of the S4. And weather is always more of a factor on boosted cars so..? We'll get it back out later this year. I want to get my 2K2 first so I can race him.
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by SFMax20SE
but keep in mind, magazine numbers are done with professional drivers.







Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by SFMax20SE
Finally got to race one from a dead stop!
All 3 races were the same results...
He would get me by 1/2 on the launch...
2nd gear I would pull up to his front fender...
3rd gear we would be even...
This is in a 2 block race... about a 1/4 mile... a little less because we have to slow down b 4 the next light.
I think he did not launch the car to it's full potential, but I'm not complaining... another good run for the Maxs!
I don't understand this....... If one wants to pull up and race off the line that is something that you like in a car...... WHY DID YOU BUY AN AUTO? don't get it...
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by rwbro719
WHY DID YOU BUY AN AUTO? don't get it...
ask Don in Texas that question
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by mattattax


ask Don in Texas that question
His Max is SICK, into the 12's i believe
Old Feb 26, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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S4 launch

S4's (2001/2002) won't launch well if you forget to turn off the ESP (elec stability prog). Ask me how I know....

But with that turned off, it will really bite the pavment hard. Tiptronics won't be near as fast as 6spd's.

-Jon
Old Feb 26, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by rwbro719

I don't understand this....... If one wants to pull up and race off the line that is something that you like in a car...... WHY DID YOU BUY AN AUTO? don't get it...
If you lived in San Francisco, used the car to commute, and had to deal with bumper to bumper traffic and all the hills, you would get it very quickly! Plus the wife can not drive a stick
Old Feb 26, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by SFMax20SE


If you lived in San Francisco, used the car to commute, and had to deal with bumper to bumper traffic and all the hills, you would get it very quickly! Plus the wife can not drive a stick
Moving from SF may be a little drastic, but you can still always teach your wife. Mine won't touch an automatic. And she's jealous I have one more speed than she does :-)
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 runs with an S4....

Originally posted by JonL

Moving from SF may be a little drastic, but you can still always teach your wife. Mine won't touch an automatic. And she's jealous I have one more speed than she does :-)
She would if she lived in San Francisco!
I'm thinking about trading the Max in for a G35... auto of course
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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