Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
04-01-2002, 09:46 PM
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Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
04-01-2002, 09:53 PM
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Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Originally posted by kloogy
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
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04-01-2002, 10:12 PM
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Re: Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Originally posted by MaxedOut2g
nice kill...but was it cl-s or tl-s?...cuz i think only cl-s comes in 6 speed and i dont know if thats out yet though...
atw
nice kill...but was it cl-s or tl-s?...cuz i think only cl-s comes in 6 speed and i dont know if thats out yet though...
atw
2003 CL-S come in six speed but the TL's are still with ss auto.
CL=2 door
TL=4 door
lol you mentioned both cars in your post kloogy
04-01-2002, 10:30 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Originally posted by 2K255HP
Yeah Nice kill
2003 CL-S come in six speed but the TL's are still with ss auto.
CL=2 door
TL=4 door
lol you mentioned both cars in your post kloogy
Yeah Nice kill
2003 CL-S come in six speed but the TL's are still with ss auto.
CL=2 door
TL=4 door
lol you mentioned both cars in your post kloogy
04-01-2002, 10:36 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Originally posted by kloogy
Youre right ! I did ... But I raced a TL-S !!! I must agree , it is our Natural Predator. Now I have really awakened my need for SPEED ! I will be adding mods FAST !!!
Youre right ! I did ... But I raced a TL-S !!! I must agree , it is our Natural Predator. Now I have really awakened my need for SPEED ! I will be adding mods FAST !!!
That is not a bad idea at all 
04-01-2002, 11:03 PM
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The Acura guys' excuse list will be:
[list=1][*]It wasn't broken in.[*]Dealership didn't have the right gas in it.[*]He didn't know how to use SS.[*]He didn't launch it right.[*]The salesguy was in the car with him.[/list=1]Excuse =
Fender = WIN!
Nice kill! Time to mod!!
[list=1][*]It wasn't broken in.[*]Dealership didn't have the right gas in it.[*]He didn't know how to use SS.[*]He didn't launch it right.[*]The salesguy was in the car with him.[/list=1]Excuse =
Fender = WIN!
Nice kill! Time to mod!!
04-01-2002, 11:16 PM
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Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Originally posted by kloogy
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
04-01-2002, 11:18 PM
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Re: Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
take 'em cowboy! new Russ on the .org ! mwaaa-ahaha. Man how long do you have your car for and how many killz do you have?
take 'em cowboy! new Russ on the .org ! mwaaa-ahaha. Man how long do you have your car for and how many killz do you have?
... If you have the sack to challenge me, I will race ! . wait till I get Mod's......Mods = MORE KILLS ! ! ! ! I just got done with exterior looks..... moving into the engine !
04-02-2002, 02:20 AM
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Nice kill. I would like to race a Bmw 330i. That's what I consider my natural predator! I think they could take us on the highway (one was creeping on my bumper recently & I couldn't pull away). I have eaten an auto GT Stang (00 style) for dinner recently. I didn't like the taste though, cause it wasn't oriental I prefer my food ricey. Where are my fraykin chopstix?
G
I prefer my food ricey. Where are my fraykin chopstix?G
04-02-2002, 04:38 AM
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Im surprised the TL-S didnt lose his tranny half way through the race. All the 2002s are dropping like flies!!! Go Honda!!
04-02-2002, 04:47 AM
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i raced a tl-s and beat it on the highway.90 mph on...... and i was surprised! we need to see a 2k2max race a tl-s on the highway..... then what results would we have?
04-02-2002, 05:29 AM
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Re: Nice Race with a 2002 TL-S
TL-S only come in auto 5speed right now. Too bad, that would be a good buy as well, but damn, only 6spd in the CL-S.
Originally posted by kloogy
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
Here it goes. I finally found one. I raced a 2002 TL-S with Dealer Plates.....He pulled up next to me at the light, I looked over, I knew it was a TL, not sure about the "S" .. So he looked over, and I loooked over...Two sets of HID's gleaming, and we both stepped on it.... I got bad traction on my AUTO... and we were both neck and neck till I hit 3rd.. I took him by a fender ! I am not sure if he was an auto or a six speed......but either way, he looked at me like he saw a ghost after he got beat.... I must admit , those suckers can hang with a Maxx.. Props to the Cl-S !
04-02-2002, 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by remykins
Im surprised the TL-S didnt lose his tranny half way through the race. All the 2002s are dropping like flies!!! Go Honda!!
Im surprised the TL-S didnt lose his tranny half way through the race. All the 2002s are dropping like flies!!! Go Honda!!
I figured the Max might win by a hair, and well, this proved it. IT has more Torque, less weight. The CL-S would be more of a challenge since its about 150 lb lighter than the TL-S.
04-02-2002, 05:35 AM
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Man, I'm looking forward to taking on a TL-S this year at Etown.
04-02-2002, 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Youre right ! I did ... But I raced a TL-S !!! I must agree , it is our Natural Predator. Now I have really awakened my need for SPEED ! I will be adding mods FAST !!!
Youre right ! I did ... But I raced a TL-S !!! I must agree , it is our Natural Predator. Now I have really awakened my need for SPEED ! I will be adding mods FAST !!!
Dont you mean Natural PREY!!!
Great Kill.....
I raced a TL-S about 2 weeks ago.....BEAUTIFUL Dark Blue one.
I beat him pretty bad...but Im 6sp and they are autos.
04-02-2002, 05:40 AM
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The 2002 Maxima (auto) vs. 2002 TL-S is a pretty good race as posted by kloogy. I am not surprised about the outcome. Max has more torque and only 5 less hp but weighs less. I think that a 2000-2001 Max and a TL-P would also be a good race. HP is little more for the TL-P (225 vs 222) and Torque is close (216 v 217) but the Max is lighter so would probably win by a little bit.
Booth good cars.
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Booth good cars.
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04-02-2002, 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Mark0824
The 2002 Maxima (auto) vs. 2002 TL-S is a pretty good race as posted by kloogy. I am not surprised about the outcome. Max has more torque and only 5 less hp but weighs less. I think that a 2000-2001 Max and a TL-P would also be a good race. HP is little more for the TL-P (225 vs 222) and Torque is close (216 v 217) but the Max is lighter so would probably win by a little bit.
Booth good cars.
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The 2002 Maxima (auto) vs. 2002 TL-S is a pretty good race as posted by kloogy. I am not surprised about the outcome. Max has more torque and only 5 less hp but weighs less. I think that a 2000-2001 Max and a TL-P would also be a good race. HP is little more for the TL-P (225 vs 222) and Torque is close (216 v 217) but the Max is lighter so would probably win by a little bit.
Booth good cars.
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04-02-2002, 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Won't happen!!! 4th gens and 5th gens all years are faster than the TL-S or CL-S! Proven by other members here. lol! If a 2k2 auto can barely take one, explain how these older gens that are slower take them even modded they don't do as good times as the 2k2 autos?!
Won't happen!!! 4th gens and 5th gens all years are faster than the TL-S or CL-S! Proven by other members here. lol! If a 2k2 auto can barely take one, explain how these older gens that are slower take them even modded they don't do as good times as the 2k2 autos?!
What is a TL-P??
Russ....stop starting ****
04-02-2002, 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Actually no 2002 has lost there tranny yet. Only 2001s and under.
I figured the Max might win by a hair, and well, this proved it. IT has more Torque, less weight. The CL-S would be more of a challenge since its about 150 lb lighter than the TL-S.
Actually no 2002 has lost there tranny yet. Only 2001s and under.
I figured the Max might win by a hair, and well, this proved it. IT has more Torque, less weight. The CL-S would be more of a challenge since its about 150 lb lighter than the TL-S.
I have to disagree with you on this one Russ. A friend of mine bought her 2002 TL-S when they first hit the market last June and she dropped her trans last month. A little search on an Acura forum revealed about 30-35 people who have had the same problem with the autos. Thats why I stick with manual, less parts to go bad.
04-02-2002, 06:06 AM
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Russ,
WHat are you tlaking about? If kloogy just raced a 2002 TL-S auto with his 2002 Auto Max and it was a close race, is that not proof that the vehilces are close with the Max winning? Unless kloogy is just a real bad driver.
A TL-P is the TL Premimu (non Type S TL).
Mark
WHat are you tlaking about? If kloogy just raced a 2002 TL-S auto with his 2002 Auto Max and it was a close race, is that not proof that the vehilces are close with the Max winning? Unless kloogy is just a real bad driver.
A TL-P is the TL Premimu (non Type S TL).
Mark
04-02-2002, 06:11 AM
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Russ,
WHat are you tlaking about? If kloogy just raced a 2002 TL-S auto with his 2002 Auto Max and it was a close race, is that not proof that the vehilces are close with the Max winning? Unless kloogy is just a real bad driver.
A TL-P is the TL Premimu (non Type S TL).
Mark
Russ,
WHat are you tlaking about? If kloogy just raced a 2002 TL-S auto with his 2002 Auto Max and it was a close race, is that not proof that the vehilces are close with the Max winning? Unless kloogy is just a real bad driver.
A TL-P is the TL Premimu (non Type S TL).
Mark
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04-02-2002, 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by Padsy 02 6sp
What is a TL-P??
Russ....stop starting ****
What is a TL-P??
Russ....stop starting ****
TL-P is the non-type S model.
04-02-2002, 06:17 AM
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I have to disagree with you on this one Russ. A friend of mine bought her 2002 TL-S when they first hit the market last June and she dropped her trans last month. A little search on an Acura forum revealed about 30-35 people who have had the same problem with the autos. Thats why I stick with manual, less parts to go bad.
I have to disagree with you on this one Russ. A friend of mine bought her 2002 TL-S when they first hit the market last June and she dropped her trans last month. A little search on an Acura forum revealed about 30-35 people who have had the same problem with the autos. Thats why I stick with manual, less parts to go bad.
04-02-2002, 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Mark0824
Russ,
WHat are you tlaking about? If kloogy just raced a 2002 TL-S auto with his 2002 Auto Max and it was a close race, is that not proof that the vehilces are close with the Max winning? Unless kloogy is just a real bad driver.
A TL-P is the TL Premimu (non Type S TL).
Mark
Russ,
WHat are you tlaking about? If kloogy just raced a 2002 TL-S auto with his 2002 Auto Max and it was a close race, is that not proof that the vehilces are close with the Max winning? Unless kloogy is just a real bad driver.
A TL-P is the TL Premimu (non Type S TL).
Mark
If a 255hp barely wins, how do those win? lol
04-02-2002, 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
You don't understand, a 190hp 4th gen Maxima and 222hp maxima will win against a TYPE-s PER THEIR STANDARDS.
If a 255hp barely wins, how do those win? lol
You don't understand, a 190hp 4th gen Maxima and 222hp maxima will win against a TYPE-s PER THEIR STANDARDS.
If a 255hp barely wins, how do those win? lol
#2. If they are 5spds
#3. Out on the highway since Type S auto trannies "blow" after 100 or so.
etc....
04-02-2002, 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
If a 255hp barely wins, how do those win? lol
If a 255hp barely wins, how do those win? lol
04-02-2002, 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by jkratzer
Two words: 5 speed.
Two words: 5 speed.
04-02-2002, 07:02 AM
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Nice kill. I would like to race a Bmw 330i. That's what I consider my natural predator! I think they could take us on the highway (one was creeping on my bumper recently & I couldn't pull away). I have eaten an auto GT Stang (00 style) for dinner recently. I didn't like the taste though, cause it wasn't oriental I prefer my food ricey. Where are my fraykin chopstix?
G
Nice kill. I would like to race a Bmw 330i. That's what I consider my natural predator! I think they could take us on the highway (one was creeping on my bumper recently & I couldn't pull away). I have eaten an auto GT Stang (00 style) for dinner recently. I didn't like the taste though, cause it wasn't oriental
I prefer my food ricey. Where are my fraykin chopstix?G
04-02-2002, 11:17 AM
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Fact is, races with TL-Ses and CL-Ses will be close against Maximas. The win could go either way . . .except with a 2K2 Max. That better win every time. That what makes this kinda race the most fun
As for the 2K1 who beat the TL-S at 90 mph, you exposed a weakness in the Acura 5 speed auto;
1. 4th and 5th gear are over drive gears
2. at above 80 mph, their SS shifter refuses to go down to 3rd gear.
DW
As for the 2K1 who beat the TL-S at 90 mph, you exposed a weakness in the Acura 5 speed auto;
1. 4th and 5th gear are over drive gears
2. at above 80 mph, their SS shifter refuses to go down to 3rd gear.
DW
04-02-2002, 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Even a 5spd, I ran 2 modded ones, people who are on this board actually, left them bad on the highway, in my sweet spot.
Even a 5spd, I ran 2 modded ones, people who are on this board actually, left them bad on the highway, in my sweet spot.
What was your race 65-110 or something like that? Then you let off?
You probably set up the race at specific speeds knowing the power band of the 5spd and your auto. And made sure it ended before or near 110 right?
04-02-2002, 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Maxtor
Ya at specific speeds for a short range maybe (probably just over 60mph+. How about 0-110 0-140 0-140
What was your race 65-110 or something like that? Then you let off?
You probably set up the race at specific speeds knowing the power band of the 5spd and your auto. And made sure it ended before or near 110 right?
Ya at specific speeds for a short range maybe (probably just over 60mph+. How about 0-110 0-140 0-140
What was your race 65-110 or something like that? Then you let off?
You probably set up the race at specific speeds knowing the power band of the 5spd and your auto. And made sure it ended before or near 110 right?
04-02-2002, 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
2 races was from 55~ to 110, the 3rd was from about 65 or so to 130 (I kept in it to 150mph that time), but after I hit 4th gear the pull went to nill, I was still pulling slowly per the max owner, but so slowly the as soon as I hit around 125, vtec kicekd in again, and I pulled to 150.
2 races was from 55~ to 110, the 3rd was from about 65 or so to 130 (I kept in it to 150mph that time), but after I hit 4th gear the pull went to nill, I was still pulling slowly per the max owner, but so slowly the as soon as I hit around 125, vtec kicekd in again, and I pulled to 150.
55mph start on a 5spd Max? Gimme a break! He would be shifting within a second of the start.
Are you trying to say that your car can beat a 5th gen 5spd from 65-130? As for VTEC it does not "kick in" (honda ricer talk) as far as I know but is more of an engine management system.
Your speedo is probably way off as well unless you have GPS system there is no way your car can do 150 stock...NO WAY! I willing to bet your car could not do 150mph unless you were going down a hill with wind on your back.
04-02-2002, 07:36 PM
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I have a 2k auto, modded, obviously, and I can beat my friend's 2k1 CL-S from the line and on the highway. The only spot he gets me is just above 30 till about 45 or so since my tranny won't downshift, but I can usually get him by 90-95. Me racing him using the nitrous doesn't really count in this case, although that's just ugly. Too bad he's out in San Diego now. The only thing is, he's stock and I have to have a couple grand in mods to beat him by a half a car. I'm also curious as to whom Russ beat...
Too bad he's out in San Diego now. The only thing is, he's stock and I have to have a couple grand in mods to beat him by a half a car. I'm also curious as to whom Russ beat...
04-02-2002, 07:36 PM
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Ants97SE the more frequent user on here, the other one I forget his idea, but he is only on here like twice a year or so seriously. hehehe.
Ants97se to what I remember, wheels, CAI, Ypipe, springs, body kit, 5spd
Other guy, Intake, HKS Exhaust, and wheels and 5spd 98.
Sorry obviously you haven't driven a car with alot more power than a 4cyc with vtec. When vtec kicks in on the CL-S the engine completely changes tone and gets much louder, sounds like a CAI all of a sudden. It's not seemless like VVT-i or CVTC. It's like a switch and when it kicks in it will throw you back a bit in the seat. My dad today witnessed it when I took him home from work. Showed him how it worked. 3800 varialble intake switches, 4800 vtec kicks in. There are about 3 pictures already on the forums of 150 speedos. I hit 150, and it was still pulling past it. The car is rated per magazines 148~ mph top speed. Okay, so your maxima can't hit 140 then!!! But my 2k1 maxima also showed 150 once.
It is not accurate, but the most it will be off is 5-8mph at the most.
People with GPS have tested the speedo, and at 100mph it was off by 1.4 mph thats it. Not much.
Ants97se to what I remember, wheels, CAI, Ypipe, springs, body kit, 5spd
Other guy, Intake, HKS Exhaust, and wheels and 5spd 98.
Sorry obviously you haven't driven a car with alot more power than a 4cyc with vtec. When vtec kicks in on the CL-S the engine completely changes tone and gets much louder, sounds like a CAI all of a sudden. It's not seemless like VVT-i or CVTC. It's like a switch and when it kicks in it will throw you back a bit in the seat. My dad today witnessed it when I took him home from work. Showed him how it worked. 3800 varialble intake switches, 4800 vtec kicks in. There are about 3 pictures already on the forums of 150 speedos. I hit 150, and it was still pulling past it. The car is rated per magazines 148~ mph top speed. Okay, so your maxima can't hit 140 then!!! But my 2k1 maxima also showed 150 once.
It is not accurate, but the most it will be off is 5-8mph at the most.
People with GPS have tested the speedo, and at 100mph it was off by 1.4 mph thats it. Not much.
Originally posted by Maxtor
Please let us know who these .org members are? The year, tranny and mods on their cars. To back up your story.
55mph start on a 5spd Max? Gimme a break! He would be shifting within a second of the start.
Are you trying to say that your car can beat a 5th gen 5spd from 65-130? As for VTEC it does not "kick in" (honda ricer talk) as far as I know but is more of an engine management system.
Your speedo is probably way off as well unless you have GPS system there is no way your car can do 150 stock...NO WAY! I willing to bet your car could not do 150mph unless you were going down a hill with wind on your back.
Please let us know who these .org members are? The year, tranny and mods on their cars. To back up your story.
55mph start on a 5spd Max? Gimme a break! He would be shifting within a second of the start.
Are you trying to say that your car can beat a 5th gen 5spd from 65-130? As for VTEC it does not "kick in" (honda ricer talk) as far as I know but is more of an engine management system.
Your speedo is probably way off as well unless you have GPS system there is no way your car can do 150 stock...NO WAY! I willing to bet your car could not do 150mph unless you were going down a hill with wind on your back.
04-02-2002, 07:37 PM
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VTEC is an engine management system of sorts but the valves do engage and thus "kick in" at 4700rpm if i remember correctly so the term is politically correct.
The 2k2 Nissan engines also employ a valve timing and lift control but its effect is not felt as strongly as Honda's VTEC.
The 2k2 Nissan engines also employ a valve timing and lift control but its effect is not felt as strongly as Honda's VTEC.
Originally posted by Maxtor
As for VTEC it does not "kick in" (honda ricer talk) as far as I know but is more of an engine management system.
As for VTEC it does not "kick in" (honda ricer talk) as far as I know but is more of an engine management system.
04-02-2002, 07:38 PM
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If my 5spd Maxima 2k1 barely beat them I seriously DOUBT your AUTO can. He didn't know how to drive that damn car right.
Originally posted by nc00max
I have a 2k auto, modded, obviously, and I can beat my friend's 2k1 CL-S from the line and on the highway. The only spot he gets me is just above 30 till about 45 or so since my tranny won't downshift, but I can usually get him by 90-95. Me racing him using the nitrous doesn't really count in this case, although that's just ugly. Too bad he's out in San Diego now. The only thing is, he's stock and I have to have a couple grand in mods to beat him by a half a car. I'm also curious as to whom Russ beat...
I have a 2k auto, modded, obviously, and I can beat my friend's 2k1 CL-S from the line and on the highway. The only spot he gets me is just above 30 till about 45 or so since my tranny won't downshift, but I can usually get him by 90-95. Me racing him using the nitrous doesn't really count in this case, although that's just ugly.
Too bad he's out in San Diego now. The only thing is, he's stock and I have to have a couple grand in mods to beat him by a half a car. I'm also curious as to whom Russ beat...