I just ran one from a 5mph roll and got walked, my front bumper to his rear bumper by 65 mph. Get this, he had 5 people in the car too.

I feel a 2K2 Max will keep up with a GS400/430. I ran my friend (he has a GS400) again on the freeway from about 35 to 125mph and he only got 1.5 cars on me.

Mark

 

so fast

 

YEP, those bastards 2k2 oweners are LUCKY!!!

they are like 1 sec faster 0-60 auto

 

Was he autotragic or 6-speed. The 2K2 autotragics are still slower than 2K-2K1 5-speeds.

 

I don't think there slower, infact they are a little bit faster.

 

on the highway they are

 

I've seen 6.7 seconds 0-60 and 15.1 @ 94mph for a 2K1 5-speed and 7 seconds 0-60 for 2K2 autotragic. Yea, they are magazine numbers. Are these numbers wrong?

 

Like you said there mag numbers. 90% of 02 auto's are in the 14's, about 15% of 00-01 5spd's are. A 02 auto has done 14.6 stock and plenty of others have done 14.7's, the same can not be said for 00-01 5spd's. Also keep in mind most mags do not brake torque or manualy shift auto cars. In any event it's really up to the drivers but the majority of the time the 02 auto's seem to prevail.

 

I think I heard someone calling me??!!

 

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I would think that a 5 speed beat a 2k2 auto down the 1/4 if properly driven and would walk it from a 80 mph roll. Nealoc187 raced a auto 2k2 and beat it pretty badly with just a y-pipe.

 

I don't think so.

 

No offense, but I doubt my 2K2 could be beat by a 5 speed.. A Y pipe helps, but you are still short some HP...The 5 speed would have to have quite a list of MODS.. not just an intake or a y pipe...Just my opinion....

 

No offense taken, but Nealoc187 ran a 14.4 with just y-pipe on his 95' 5 speed. Thats fast enough to take out pretty much any stock 2k2 auto and I am sure he would walk one on the highway.

 

A Fella here ran a 14.3 with a intake and a cat-back exhaust with his auto 02. Nealoc's 14.4 is mostly because of driver skill, on a highway race skill won't do much, HP will be what makes the difference and a 02 has a lot more of it.

 

I said stock Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt an intake add around 10 fwhp and a cat-back is good for 3 more. Anyways, Id like to see a modded 5 speed run a 2k2 auto with intake from 80-130. I still think the 5 speed will come out ahead

 

Correct me if I am wrong but wernt we originaly talking about a stock 2000 5spd VS a stock 2002 auto You changed the cars of comparison so I did also.

 

Sorry i was refering to a lighly modded 5 speed, such as intake and y-pipe. Honestly I dont think that a stock 2k2 auto will pull on above 80mph when racing a 2k 5 speed.

 

It's all about gearing on a roll like that, I don't know how strong the auto gearing is at 80 MPH, it's up in the air to me.

 

this probably has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about, but my 2k2 auto (I downshifted to 3rd) from 80-120mph pulled 2 cars on a 330ci

 

A couple of the Chicagoland .org members have just gotten 2k2 Autos. I will race them and see what happens and post back after the next meet.

 

Cool

 

Ive done this too, and IT PULLS through 100 MPH + !

 

For the record, my auto 2K2 SE ran a 15.039 at Etown last Friday night. This equates to roughly a 6.5 seconds 0-60 time.

 

didnt a 2k2 auto run a 14.4 stock? i forget who it was but im searching now.

 

okay, i found it. apparently he had a K&N cone filter but thats nothing big. very little, if any HP gains.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=86227

 

A stock 2002 auto will beat a 5spd 01 Max. I have beat several of them all with good drivers here in Dallas. Early 5th gen and 4th gen 5spd owners better look out for the Altima auto as well heck M/T just got it to 60 in 6.6 sec with a 14.99 1/4 mile at 93.** mph.

 

If an almost stock 2k2 auto is running 14.4, then what are most 6spd's running? .1 - .2 better? I really don't see them running much better than that. 14.4 is fast and I would be willing to bet that if you drove it like it should be driven (w/ out manually shifting it) you would not touch that. In that case I see no reason why a 2k-2k1 5spd (bone stock, or with similar mods) would not take it.


MAX2000JP do you have a problem with your variable intake? Your torque numbers seem fine, but your HP numbers seems like 4th gen material.

 

that makes no sense. i mean...it does but thats like saying "if you drove your car like it should be driven (w/out speed shifting it) then i should be able to beat you" why would you race someone without doing what it takes to make your car faster? yes, a 2k-2k1 5speed could take a 2k2 auto if the 2k2 purposely didnt drive as fast as they could but thats doesnt make any sense.

 

 

I'm going to have to call BS. 1.5 cars from 35 to 125mph with a GS400? That's a hard one to believe, even though I wish it was true.

My friend has a '98 GS400 that I have not had a chance to run yet, but I've driven in his car plenty of times to know my '01 5-speed would be SPANKED by more than 2-3+ car lengths to 100mph. So your GLE would be even more at a disadvantage(autoMAGIC and extra weight).

Are you sure about that "1.5 car lengths" from 35-125mph?

If so, I'm going to have to challenge my friend one of these days. Only problem is there isn't anywhere around here that I can easily get up to 125mph.

 

Sorry for not making sense, but what I meant was instead of just romping on the gas and letting the tranny do the sifting, a lot of these guys that are getting these fast 1/4 times with autos are manually shifting their auto transmissions. Not that I have a big problem with this, but that is not the way the car was intended to be driven. If you are going to do that, why not buy a manual, or a car that has a auto\manual shift tranny.

 

i understand what you're saying. maybe they got auto because they didnt want to do it all the time.

 

Yep...it isnt working

 

Ok whats up with this autoTRAGIC stuff.On behalf of all of us autoMAGIC owners who are sick of being called TRAGIC, I dub the new term (suck speed)translation for 6 speed. for some of you people out there who think your the man with your suck speeds, 90% of you couldn't beat a ford festiva on your best day.Yeah you watch the fast and the furious 3 times a day(Horrible movie if you ask me),yeah you watch your NASCAR(don't even get me started on that gay sport."look at me buba,I just had sex with my sister and now im going to drive in a circle on a track that is so banked I dont even have to steer.Hope I dont have to turn right or I will crash".The thing is,most of you THINK you can drive,its us that KNOW we can drive that will make you feel foolish and best of all,make you look stupid.

 

the terms "automagic" and "autotragic" were around way before the 6-speed came out. dont turn this into an arguement against 6-speed owners. personally, i just say "auto" or "automatic". just chill out and dont let it bother you.

 

Yes I'm sure of the distance. I realize I left out a factor that helped me. I had to get behind him in his lane because of a car in my lane which helped me because of the draft. As soon as I got behind him he pulled ever so slowly.

Thanks for the call, I had not thought of that till your BS call.

Mark

 

Plus most of these guys here( most stick drivers in general) cant get the most out of their 5spd's so they are even at a bigger disadvantage! Most auto guys can be more consistent than you 5spd owners.

 

 

Drafting is wildly cool especially in the triple digits.

I was a little surprised to see that there was civilian traffic while you were in the triple digits...a blowout or a stone...brrrr.!

I dunno bout the rest of you but it seems to me that anytime I'm 20 mph or more above the rest of the civilians, there's ALWAYS a driver who checked his rear view 5 seconds before he got around to changing into my triple digit lane.

It finally dawned on me one day that the problem was me not the civilian.

He simply isn't expecting anything to come up to his chosen lane that quickly.

Nowadays I go out late, to a deserted stretch or maybe someday I'll find a track around here.

 

Drafting?

Oh, of course. That's what made the difference. Drafting at a car length or more would easily make 80hp. Right!

I believe ya.

Sure hope you were joking.