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Old Apr 17, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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What are the best $100-150 tires 235/45/17

Hello peoples.Just curious as to what yall think are the best tires for the $ between 100-150 bills.I have been looking at the Falken but have never ever herd(is that a word) of them before doing some research.I want something that is just as good in the rain as the dry.Also nothing super loud.Im 29 and not into loud or cold anymore.Going to put them on some Konig Blatant 17x8's but do not want to blow 200 a tire.Thanks for any input and thanks for your time.
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I have the Dunlop SP5000 on my car now and I'm satisfied with it's performance in dry and wet condition. I got them from TireRack for $128 each. However it tends to be a little more noisy than the Michelin Pilot XGT Z4 that I had previously. IMO the Michelin is a good buy for about $180. Although it's a Z-rated with treadwear rating of 320, it lasted for 60 000 miles on my car even with occassional hard cornering and screeching of tires.
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I have the Falken FK451s. Their on discount tire direct for $121.00 each in that size. I'm not an expert on tires but compared to the Potenzas is like comparing apples to oranges. Huge improvement.

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Old Apr 17, 2002 | 08:07 PM
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Re: What are the best $100-150 tires 235/45/17

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Hello peoples.Just curious as to what yall think are the best tires for the $ between 100-150 bills.I have been looking at the Falken but have never ever herd(is that a word) of them before doing some research.I want something that is just as good in the rain as the dry.Also nothing super loud.Im 29 and not into loud or cold anymore.Going to put them on some Konig Blatant 17x8's but do not want to blow 200 a tire.Thanks for any input and thanks for your time.
Yokohama AVS-db. $144 at TireRack...I WISH they made these in 225/50. I ran Yoko H4/V4 for five years on my Hondas (before the Max) and loved them. Great dry grip, confident rain handling and they are cheap!
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Re: What are the best $100-150 tires 235/45/17

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Hello peoples.Just curious as to what yall think are the best tires for the $ between 100-150 bills.I have been looking at the Falken but have never ever herd(is that a word) of them before doing some research.I want something that is just as good in the rain as the dry.Also nothing super loud.Im 29 and not into loud or cold anymore.Going to put them on some Konig Blatant 17x8's but do not want to blow 200 a tire.Thanks for any input and thanks for your time.
I say TOYO tires are the best IMO.. I paid $130 each for 235/40/18.
Great grip and great tread.
Old Apr 17, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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Re: What are the best $100-150 tires 235/45/17

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Hello peoples.Just curious as to what yall think are the best tires for the $ between 100-150 bills.I have been looking at the Falken but have never ever herd(is that a word) of them before doing some research.I want something that is just as good in the rain as the dry.Also nothing super loud.Im 29 and not into loud or cold anymore.Going to put them on some Konig Blatant 17x8's but do not want to blow 200 a tire.Thanks for any input and thanks for your time.
BFgoodridge G-Force T/A KWDS.....Tire rack has them for $125 and if you buy four you get a $50 mail-in rebate. Works out to be 450 dollars for 4. The only better tire in that size imo are the Pilot A/S, but look at the price difference.
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Clearly Kumho tires are the best for traction in rain and dry. Also the treadwear is good cause I put over 40k miles on the tires.

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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Clearly Kumho tires are the best for traction in rain and dry. Also the treadwear is good cause I put over 40k miles on the tires.

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I am close to ordering some Kumhos, I take it you have the 712's. Some people say they are great in warmer weather, how have yours done in the colder weather. I know Kumho has just come out with some newer models, I am trying to gather info. Thanks.
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Bridgestone RE950s...Alot of WRX owners can't be wrong when all they order is 215/45R17 Bridgestone RE950s, aroudn 140/ea. All seaon, Ultra high performance.

I ride on Toyo Proxes FZ4, I can't recommend them cause the sidewall is prone to cuts and bruising. The price is right @ $120/tire, the tire is all season and easily outperformed my Kumhos, especially when it started to get wet.
T1S is awesome, summer/rain tires, uncompromising grip, wear fast, and responsiveness isn't as crisp as I want it to be, but the grip more than makes up for it.

Sumitomo, the new HTRZ +, all season design, and even light snow capability, looks very promising at under $120/ tire, be sure to look into those as well.
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I am actually leaning toward

the Yoko AVS db's at 144 a piece.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:32 AM
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Go with the Kumho 712. Been using it for about 5k miles and love it
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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Thanks for the responses.Im not a tire person so its great to hear what other more experienced folk have to say.All my buddies are Toyo fans but none have the FZ4's or TS1's I have been looking at so the news about the sidewall was good.Other than the sidewall Chimp did you like the FZ4's?And Jhans what toyos are you talking about for 130.00.Thanks again folks for the info, its always appreciated.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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i got my 235/45/17 kuhmo 712's for 119piece , they r awesome, except for rubbing, im sticking w kuhmo when i go 225 tho
Old Apr 19, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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235/45-17 Bridgestone Potenza RE950

All-season, sticky, quiet, and the only ones of that size that you will find with a 40k mile warranty.
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Originally posted by Norm02SE
Thanks for the responses.Im not a tire person so its great to hear what other more experienced folk have to say.All my buddies are Toyo fans but none have the FZ4's or TS1's I have been looking at so the news about the sidewall was good.Other than the sidewall Chimp did you like the FZ4's?And Jhans what toyos are you talking about for 130.00.Thanks again folks for the info, its always appreciated.
Love my FZ4s. Excellent ride, grip, dry/wet/snow. Not 100% foolproof, but it gets the job done, and if you knew the way I drive, I beat on the tires daily. Always tested, and always got me home. The day I switched over my RE92s to FZ4s, I had to check my tire pressure all day. The tire makes that much of a difference in ride. The bumps weren't as harsh, compared to the RE92s. I was so satisfied w/ the tires, and I got the T1S for summer performance use only. Like I mentioned above, same ride characteristics as FZ4, but one step above in grip. Tested more than enough times.

Kumhos, I will never recommend, because of my personal experience.

Sumitomo, outscores Kumhos, and like its says on their site, Sumitomo and Kumho are not the same.

Jhans, was more than likely talking about the Toyo Proxes T1S, I could be wrong.
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Bridgestone Potenza RE 950. Rated 9.3 (out of 10) in Tire Rack's "Would Buy Again" catagory. Compared to the other tires mentioned here, which are all good tires, the Bridgestone stands above the rest in almost all of the catagorys in the owner's survey. These are my choice, hands down...
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Re: Dixit

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I am close to ordering some Kumhos, I take it you have the 712's. Some people say they are great in warmer weather, how have yours done in the colder weather. I know Kumho has just come out with some newer models, I am trying to gather info. Thanks.
They are excellent in Rain and Dry. I mean I been on 95N going to Bmore and it was pouring and I was going bout 115mph on the Maxima and it just stuck to the ground. That wide channel in the middle really helps.

They do however suck in Snow, I know I was in Birmingham the one day it snowed and it sucked on traction, but we here in DC metro dont really get it but one time a year, which I can deal with.

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They are excellent in Rain and Dry. I mean I been on 95N going to Bmore and it was pouring and I was going bout 115mph on the Maxima and it just stuck to the ground. That wide channel in the middle really helps.

They do however suck in Snow, I know I was in Birmingham the one day it snowed and it sucked on traction, but we here in DC metro dont really get it but one time a year, which I can deal with.

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I must've gotten some Booty-Kumho Tires for me to loose control in the rain.
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Protenza S-03s on Tirerack.com for $150 each. Best tires for the money.
Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Well thanks again to everyone who passed on there thoughts and ideas.Just one more ? before this thread will be on its was to the deep bowles of the org.Does anyone know any online tire stores that sell Toyo tires.I have narrowed it down to Yokohama's,Falken's and Toyo's but have not been able to find any Toyo's at any online stores to compare with the others on design and price.Once again thanks to everyone who wrote in.
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go to www.1010tires.com
Old Apr 23, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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re950

I just drove through my first monsoon last night on my RE950 Potenzas. 75 on the hwy was just fine, could've been dry as far as traction was concerned.

I'll confirm that the 235/45-17 suck in the snow, as should any tire of that size. I learned to use the ebrake to get the back end around on many turns (terrrrrible understeer). If I am still above the snowbelt next winter, I will be purchasing the appropriate tires on steelies. These tires are great for everything else.
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How's the Toyo Proxes T1-S end up in this thread? Any useful size of them for a Maxima push beyond $150 by quite a bit.

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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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Re: What are the best $100-150 tires 235/45/17

Originally posted by Norm02SE
Hello peoples.Just curious as to what yall think are the best tires for the $ between 100-150 bills.I have been looking at the Falken but have never ever herd(is that a word) of them before doing some research.I want something that is just as good in the rain as the dry.Also nothing super loud.Im 29 and not into loud or cold anymore.Going to put them on some Konig Blatant 17x8's but do not want to blow 200 a tire.Thanks for any input and thanks for your time.
I have sunlop sp sports on my max they are about 125 dollars and perform great in all weather conditions. They also hold up really well for over 50,000 miles
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Bridgestone Potenza RE950s. I love these tires! Awesome traction in dry and wet!!!! They handle so much better than the stock Potenza RE92s it's not even funny. I can barely get my car to break traction even when torque braking from a stop. Before, I would just spin all day. They are a little noisier than stock, but not that much. And in the rain...just awesome. Even in deep puddles the rain seems to run through the channels in the tire pretty good...very little splashing and no hydroplaning so far. I'd say handling in the rain is even better than the RE92s on dry pavement!!! I've heard they are not good in snow, but I hear that about most any all-season tire.

I think Tirerack has them for $150/each. I bought mine from Victoriatire for $130/each or something like that. They are in Canada, so you have to pay a small import fee, but I live in WA state, so it wasn't that much. The farther you live from Canada the more it is.

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Bridgestone Potenza RE950s. I love these tires! Awesome traction in dry and wet!!!! They handle so much better than the stock Potenza RE92s it's not even funny. I can barely get my car to break traction even when torque braking from a stop. Before, I would just spin all day. They are a little noisier than stock, but not that much. And in the rain...just awesome. Even in deep puddles the rain seems to run through the channels in the tire pretty good...very little splashing and no hydroplaning so far. I'd say handling in the rain is even better than the RE92s on dry pavement!!! I've heard they are not good in snow, but I hear that about most any all-season tire.

I think Tirerack has them for $150/each. I bought mine from Victoriatire for $130/each or something like that. They are in Canada, so you have to pay a small import fee, but I live in WA state, so it wasn't that much. The farther you live from Canada the more it is.

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I've heard people say good things about this tire but I was just reluctant to have "Potenza" as a replacement of the horrific Potenzas that I already had. It's good to see that Bridgestone actually makes good tires.
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Bridgestone Potenza RE 950. Rated 9.3 (out of 10) in Tire Rack's "Would Buy Again" catagory. Compared to the other tires mentioned here, which are all good tires, the Bridgestone stands above the rest in almost all of the catagorys in the owner's survey. These are my choice, hands down...
Try Bridgestone RE-730 sticks like glue true high proformance tire.
good in wet weather,and corners very good a little harder ride but worth it if proformance is what you are looking for.
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Are the stock rims ok when it comes to road noise (if i upgrade to 18s will it be worse, or is it dependant on the tires).

And what tires are best for stock rims with GOOD traction in dry and cold temps (and occasional rain) and are QUIET.
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i just put some 235/45/ZR17 Bridgestone Potenza RE730 on my max about 1000 miles ago and i love them. The wet handling is excellent and the dry handling is great too. I would recommend them to anyone. Ive seen them for sale around 150 online but i paid 175 for mine.
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i just put some 235/45/ZR17 Bridgestone Potenza RE730 on my max about 1000 miles ago and i love them. The wet handling is excellent and the dry handling is great too. I would recommend them to anyone. Ive seen them for sale around 150 online but i paid 175 for mine.
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what tires are best for stock rims with GOOD traction in dry and cold temps (and occasional rain) and are QUIET.
None of the tires discussed in this thread are acceptable for use on the stock rims. That's because the minimum acceptable rim width for the 235/45R17 tire is 7.5". The stock SE rims are only 7" wide. Therefore, YOU CANNOT MOUNT 235/45R17 TIRES ON THE STOCK RIMS WITHOUT EXCEEDING TIRE MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATIONS. There are absolutely no exceptions to this rule regardless of the manufacturer of the tire.

Before you decide to mount 235/45R17 tires on your OEM rims, read the post on Page 3 of the FAQs entitled, "Can I run oversized tires on my stock 17" SE Rims?". Here's a link to Page 3 of the FAQs:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....7&pagenumber=3

Then do whatever you think is best.
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!Now see what you've done.
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Originally posted by melteye
Are the stock rims ok when it comes to road noise (if i upgrade to 18s will it be worse, or is it dependant on the tires).

And what tires are best for stock rims with GOOD traction in dry and cold temps (and occasional rain) and are QUIET.
S-03's are acceptable to use on stock rims. Why wouldn't they be? I've got them on my stock 16s. I'm sure you can get them for 17s and 18s too. The overall diameter just must be the same (i.e. make sure you get the right size for the rim!).

As your rim size goes up, the tires must be thinner to have the same overall diameter. So, the road noise will get worse.

In CA, for GOOD dry traction, S-03s are the BEST thing you can buy for under $150 for your stock rims. If you don't belive me, go to tirerack.com or anywhere else and look at the reviews. I've personally tested them doing everything from drifting around corners to driving at 130 for 20 minutes strait. They are AMAZING! I just ordered new ones. As for the rain, I paced a ferrari recently through turns, at 130 (f*cking speed limiter) IN THE RAIN for 5 minutes without problems (at which point the driver fliped me off and signaled me to move over cause he thought I was gonna lose control and kill him or something hehehe )
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S-03's are acceptable to use on stock rims. Why wouldn't they be? I've got them on my stock 16s. I'm sure you can get them for 17s and 18s too. The overall diameter just must be the same (i.e. make sure you get the right size for the rim!).

As your rim size goes up, the tires must be thinner to have the same overall diameter. So, the road noise will get worse.
All right. You provide a perfect example of someone who probably needs a little more education in the area of tire selection, Dan. So let me help you out here.

First, S-03's are available in 17" and 18" sizes (and 19" and 20" as well). However, they are not available in the OEM tire size of 225/50R17. And overall diameter is only ONE of the specifications that have to be met for a tire to be considered acceptable. Check out the link I posted previously if you're interested in finding out about some of the other really important specifications.

Second, you are correct in assuming that as rim diameter increases, the tires must be "thinner" to maintain the proper overall geometry. But road noise is the least of your problems. You see, as the tires get "thinner" and "thinner", the amount of weight that they can carry (i.e., their load rating) becomes less and less. And if your tires get to be too "thin", you could end up having a really bad hair day!

I hope you understand that I'm not trying to single you out, Dan. You represent the MAJORITY of people on this forum who simply do not know enough about purchasing tires to make a safe and intelligent decision. Unfortunately, not knowing what you're doing when it comes to purchasing tires could have some very nasty consequences.
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Originally posted by y2kse

All right. You provide a perfect example of someone who probably needs a little more education in the area of tire selection, Dan. So let me help you out here.

First, S-03's are available in 17" and 18" sizes (and 19" and 20" as well). However, they are not available in the OEM tire size of 225/50R17. And overall diameter is only ONE of the specifications that have to be met for a tire to be considered acceptable. Check out the link I posted previously if you're interested in finding out about some of the other really important specifications.

Second, you are correct in assuming that as rim diameter increases, the tires must be "thinner" to maintain the proper overall geometry. But road noise is the least of your problems. You see, as the tires get "thinner" and "thinner", the amount of weight that they can carry (i.e., their load rating) becomes less and less. And if your tires get to be too "thin", you could end up having a really bad hair day!

I hope you understand that I'm not trying to single you out, Dan. You represent the MAJORITY of people on this forum who simply do not know enough about purchasing tires to make a safe and intelligent decision. Unfortunately, not knowing what you're doing when it comes to purchasing tires could have some very nasty consequences.
Oh, yeah that makes sense. I just read that whole link by the way. Don't worry about singling me out, I'm here to learn, and I deffinately don't want to give any dangerous advice. Since rims are at the end of my wish list, I haven't done much research. All I know is that when I typed maxima gle into tirerack, S-03s were the best thing there for my car. I just checked and sure enough, there were no maximum performance tires for those stock 17s. That sucks!

By the way, why don't more people on maxima.org have S-03s? I see lots of people with Dunlop sp sport 9000, but why buy those when they are more expensive and clearly outperformed by the S-03s?
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!Now see what you've done.
It was just a matter of TIME!!!

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