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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:03 AM
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Maxima Vs. V6 Supra

when I get my maxima I wanna roll into town looking for the black Supra do you guys think ill take him? Or just tell me if im asking a stupid question. Has anyone ever seen these two race.
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Re: Maxima Vs. V6 Supra

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when I get my maxima I wanna roll into town looking for the black Supra do you guys think ill take him? Or just tell me if im asking a stupid question. Has anyone ever seen these two race.
V6 eh?
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:42 AM
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If you are talking about the latest (last) generation Supra then you had best stay away. RWD, twin turbos, 0-60 in low-to-mid 5's.

An '02 Max is fast but it won't touch these.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:49 AM
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Re: Re: Maxima Vs. V6 Supra

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V6 eh?
Thats what i'm thinkin'
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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Yes, you can beat a V6 Supra

Pretty badly too, I might add.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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V6 eh?

http://rtky.com/images/GregBaker-Supra-engine.jpg
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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What's that big shiny thing connected to his intake piping? A hairdryer?
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Originally posted by Yomie
V6 eh?

http://rtky.com/images/GregBaker-Supra-engine.jpg
trying to have fun here...

Even a 1st gen can take down a V6 Supra...an I6 Supra, thats hard.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:04 AM
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I think it possible

I thinking I could take him?
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What's that big shiny thing connected to his intake piping? A hairdryer?
Its a rice mod...a Huge Kazooo. Makes all the noise under the hood and muffler makes noise out the rear, so it balances out
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:13 AM
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Check out this article in Edmunds on the Supra:

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...6/article.html

320 hp and 315 lb-ft of torque in a rear driver. They got 0-60 times of 5.8 secs in a high elevation test.

Think about it...
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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Okay, enough kidding around.

If its a N/A Supra you stand a very good chance of winning.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by Phydeaux
Check out this article in Edmunds on the Supra:

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...6/article.html

320 hp and 315 lb-ft of torque in a rear driver. They got 0-60 times of 5.8 secs in a high elevation test.

Think about it...
We're talking about a V6 Supra here, not the Inline 6 Supra...you know ?

ejj5875, you are undoubtly correct. Don't forget some of the older Supra turbos can also fall victim.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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If it's a non-turbo then yes you can probably can take him, but if he's a twin turbo then you are going to be toast. As far as the old single turbo's go, if this guy has put a different turbo on or anything such as downpipe, chip boostcontroller then you are going to be toast plain and simple.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Supra's are very easily modded for high HP gains with little money. So, if it's a turbo, I would suggest that you stay away. But if it's not, smoke him! One of my friends has a Supra, I need to race him before he gets his turbo. Cuz after that it'll be 600HP at the wheels!!
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Having owned a '95 Supra TT 6-speed at the same time as my 5th Gen Max SE, I can tell you there is no contest at all. The Supra has power everywhere and will easily do 0-60 in the high 4's. You can pin a passenger to his seat so hard that he can't pull his torso away from the seat while accelerating. Awesome power. But all MKIV (latest gen) Supra's are I-6's...go mess with a V6 Supra.
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Never been a V6 in a Supra - the've all been I6. So you could say a Max wouldn't have any trouble beating one.
Old Apr 18, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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well, if ya put a v6 engine, say a camry engine into the supra, then you'd have a v6 supra
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Do people understand its a JOKE~!

we joked around on the goof in his thread about a V6 Supra...Its obvious Supra's have I6.
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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So what you're saying is, I paid my mechanic $6000.00 to order and install an I-8 GT40 motor in my Stang ?? FOR NOTHING !!!!!
j00 killed it.
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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supra wins all races, stock for stock, unless it's non-turbo.

here's the exception:

MKiii (87-92) supra turbo doesn't beat 2002 Maxima, but will beat any other maxima stock for stock.

Add $300 (home depot boost controller, DP, and filter) to the MKiii and it'll beat any Maxima.
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Maxima Vs. V6 Supra

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when I get my maxima I wanna roll into town looking for the black Supra do you guys think ill take him? Or just tell me if im asking a stupid question. Has anyone ever seen these two race.
Well two things, 1 all supras are flat six I believe, and 2 If it's a 93'AE TT don't even try it 0-60 4.9 seconds!
and yes this is a kinda stupid question!
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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Haha, that rice mod you see in that pic.....must do something, that car went 10.6 at the track.
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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Supras suck...



j/k I get a 1997 (MKIV) at the end of next year It puts down 1015HP, on nitro... gotta find numbers without.

Edit: Found the numbers. 873HP without NOS
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Some people dont seem to realize that the V6 Supra is KING .. Please EMAIL CHIMp.. he has the secret mod that makes Supra V6's run 10's. it took him a long time, but he went into the TRD underworld to get it. We at Maxima.org are lucky to have him share it with us.. You must email him though....
Kloogy, ?

WTF R U Talkin about ?

You're the one talking **** out your mouth, you fool.
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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I wouldn't try it...I raced my uncles '93 Mazda RX-7 Twin turbo against a same year Supra I6 Twin turbo...Yea it was close until the power of that 6 kicked in along with the extra HP from the twin turbos and that thing was history...The Rotary is one helluva engine but it was no match for this bad @$$

Have you guys seen the new RX-8? That car is wicked cool man...
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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Re: Re: Maxima Vs. V6 Supra

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Well two things, 1 all supras are flat six I believe, and 2 If it's a 93'AE TT don't even try it 0-60 4.9 seconds!
and yes this is a kinda stupid question!
...???? What? care to re-edit your post.

Flat six = most porsches.

Inline six = all supras (well, at least mkii-mkiv supras)

Also, what's a '93 AE TT? Do you mean AE as equaling Anniversary Edition? The anniversary edition (15th) was in 97. Toyota didn't recognize the 79-81 years of the Supra and used the MY82 of the Supra as the beginning... 15years later (hence, the 97 being the 15th AE).

The REAL year of the 15th AE of the Supra SHOULD be 94...
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Maxima Vs. V6 Supra

Just to add, every Supra that ever existed, from the 1st Celica Supra to the Mark III and IVs, have all been in-line 6es.

Supra = In-line 6 PERIOD.

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Originally posted by Driven EF9


...???? What? care to re-edit your post.

Flat six = most porsches.

Inline six = all supras (well, at least mkii-mkiv supras)

Also, what's a '93 AE TT? Do you mean AE as equaling Anniversary Edition? The anniversary edition (15th) was in 97. Toyota didn't recognize the 79-81 years of the Supra and used the MY82 of the Supra as the beginning... 15years later (hence, the 97 being the 15th AE).

The REAL year of the 15th AE of the Supra SHOULD be 94...
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TT means twin turbo but you probably already knew that...
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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Well, I don't know about this site's reputation but here'sCar Stats dot com
They have the 93' as being the fastest.
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Definitely can't beat the TT. Don't know about the non turbo ones.

I had a MKIII (87) with boost control, DP, removed both cats, 3" exhaust, Dynomax, HKS green ugly intake. However, it did have Head Gasket leak. The car has good HP, but weight 3700 lbs. I sort raced a 4th Gen Maxima and it was close due to the fact it wasn't running fully efficient.

BTW, have you guys seen the One Lap Supra, or the MKII that Reg has that puts out like 400 hp? The guy that runs the Supra Club lives here in Calgary and I believe he bought the one Lap. Now I believe he has a shop that does Dinan stuff for BMWs. I sat in the One Lap, it's a single turbo HKS built machine. No idea what hp it puts down, or how fast it is.
Old Apr 23, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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Well either way...

Any Maxima will pwn a Supra V6.
Old Apr 23, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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'93 Supra TT for sale on ebay...

Check it out guys . . . a 6-speed w/only 35K miles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1823590325

Now only if I had that three car garage.....
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Originally posted by bigbadboss101
Definitely can't beat the TT. Don't know about the non turbo ones.

I had a MKIII (87) with boost control, DP, removed both cats, 3" exhaust, Dynomax, HKS green ugly intake. However, it did have Head Gasket leak. The car has good HP, but weight 3700 lbs. I sort raced a 4th Gen Maxima and it was close due to the fact it wasn't running fully efficient.

BTW, have you guys seen the One Lap Supra, or the MKII that Reg has that puts out like 400 hp? The guy that runs the Supra Club lives here in Calgary and I believe he bought the one Lap. Now I believe he has a shop that does Dinan stuff for BMWs. I sat in the One Lap, it's a single turbo HKS built machine. No idea what hp it puts down, or how fast it is.
I have a MKIII now that I'm building up.
Intake
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Test Pipe
Catback JIC Type I
InterCooler Spearco
MKIV Fuel Pump
Shimmed WasteGate
Stage 1 Turbo Turbonetics
Still Factory Boost
Waiting for 550cc Injectors and Lexus AFM
Target HP 360-400.

I also have a 5th Gen 5spd with all mods minus S/C. The Maxima Can't touch the Supra

Drop a 2JZ in the MKIII OOO GOODNESSS
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Originally posted by PIONEER


I have a MKIII now that I'm building up.
Intake
DownPipe RT
Test Pipe
Catback JIC Type I
InterCooler Spearco
MKIV Fuel Pump
Shimmed WasteGate
Stage 1 Turbo Turbonetics
Still Factory Boost
Waiting for 550cc Injectors and Lexus AFM
Target HP 360-400.

I also have a 5th Gen 5spd with all mods minus S/C. The Maxima Can't touch the Supra

Drop a 2JZ in the MKIII OOO GOODNESSS
If you only knew the hell I went through w/ JibaroMax attempting a 2JZ install into a MkIII. Maybe the 1JZ would be a better option, but a JDM 7M GTE is in, and awaiting a few other items. Very similar to your list.
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If you only knew the hell I went through w/ JibaroMax attempting a 2JZ install into a MkIII. Maybe the 1JZ would be a better option, but a JDM 7M GTE is in, and awaiting a few other items. Very similar to your list.
Trust me. 1JZ is harder then the 2JZ. First of all the Fenders are too narrow. YOu have to hammer it in some so the turbos would fit in the engine bay. 2nd, the bell housing is different on the transmission. Its a Hybrid b/w the 7M and 2JZ. Mike Urbano of ToySport has a whole writeup for the 1JZ and 2JZ conversions.

This is what you need for 1JZ conversion. 89+ front crossmemeber, '89+ motor mounts, 1j r154 bellhousing, 1j, wiring, ecu, piping.

Check out this link for details. http://www.supras.nl/view.php?page=m...eplacement.htm
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Trust me. 1JZ is harder then the 2JZ. First of all the Fenders are too narrow. YOu have to hammer it in some so the turbos would fit in the engine bay. 2nd, the bell housing is different on the transmission. Its a Hybrid b/w the 7M and 2JZ. Mike Urbano of ToySport has a whole writeup for the 1JZ and 2JZ conversions.

This is what you need for 1JZ conversion. 89+ front crossmemeber, '89+ motor mounts, 1j r154 bellhousing, 1j, wiring, ecu, piping.

Check out this link for details. http://www.supras.nl/view.php?page=m...eplacement.htm
Yes, we attempted it, and I stopped. I waited on a 7M GTE, and got it over with.
Exactly the same resource, and it was not fun for the first 3 days.

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Yes, we attempted it, and I stopped. I waited on a 7M GTE, and got it over with.
Exactly the same resource, and it was not fun for the first 3 days.

-Simply, not meant to be.
The the Mods you are running. Use the 7M. I know a guy working on 650Hp on a 7M. He was at the Texas meet. Dyno 547Hp On 7M. Built from ground up.. Nothing factory inside that motor.
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
Yes, you can beat a V6 Supra

Pretty badly too, I might add.

-Go Get'em Tiger.
V6? sure, why not..if there's a V6 supra...they're all inline 6...

you can race inline 6 NA supra and have some fun with it...but if it's the TT version...best stay away..



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