2k2maxima

hey, what's up guyz, I was wondering if anyone here had gotten their factory keyless entry system upgraded from Nissan themselves???

Thankz in advance...

Later

2k2maxima

Hey guyz, sry for the mix up - but i meant did anyone upgrade their keyless entry system to a security system from nissan???

Thankz in advance...

Later

jjs

And the part number to do this with would be???????

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

What doesn't the stock NVIS offer that you want?

The only thing vulnerable is glass and trunk access. Russ posted a "How To" for adding a shock sensor to cover the glass.

neil

truck is not a problem at least on the 2000-2001 ... the switch that activates the truck light is tied into the alarm system and works ...

i have the esm and boy as an EE i do have a field day at work learning the entire electrical system of the car ...

having a service manual and scan tool and know the ins and out of the car one does not need extended warranty

i am in LI .... eastmeadow area, should any one need to scan or ref a manual, i have learned so much from here i am willing to give back some to the board and help out.

i printed out the entire CD manual and bind the manual into 5 sections !!! carzy but love my car!!

cheers,
neil

Mikesmaxatl

I did a search for Russ2kse's how to on adding a shock sensor to the factory alarm and no matches came up. Anyone know the link? Russ?

soundmike

iTrader: (24)

http://www.5thgenmaximas.com/shocksensor.html

neil

http://www.5thgenmaximas.com/shocksensor.html

link above ... also i can tell you what wire, which is the same one that he tapped into, the one in the hood switch .. is the same wire that runs to the SEM module ... this would help you not to run the wire from the hood into the firewall to the sensor in the car ....

neil


PS: with that shock sensor you have the same "security" features of an aftermarket module

IceY2K1

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Neil, I'm glad your aboard. This board ALWAYS needs EE advice.

I'm always trying to answer electrical challenges, but it will be nice having someone who ALSO has the ESM to back me up. I'm a CE and really HATE EE crap, but I can figure it out eventually with enough time. Again, I do NOT like EE, but I can usually get around anything electrical if I need to.

Your on my "buddy" list!

neil

ICE:

thanks for the welcome ... been lurking here for about 2 yrs now .... have a 2000 gle sterling mist

anyone in the LI area, westbury nissan is a great dealer place for warranty work of course

i made a good connection with the Class A tech (Steve) and he is aware i know my car and dont BS him ... hence no problems for warranty stuff .... i usally tell him where i get my TSB info from

well any help i can give, based on my background and ESM and Scantool, willing to help out.

neil

ajahearn

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Can you post which wire I can use rather than drill a hole through the firewall? Thanks.

2Maxed-out4u

The factory alarms are very easy for a theif to disable. After market alarms like mine offer multiple shock sensors and features like anti-carjack. i have K-9 mundial by the way.

2k2maxima

Hey man, I just got my alarm done from Nissan this morning, (upgraded my security system) adding a shock sensor and the rest of the BS....but, is that also as easy for thieves to get through? I mean, like I just want to know I got my money's worht - I paid 250 for it...

Thankz in advance..

Later

neil

i concure with 2Maxed-out4u, once you get access to the SEM, you can take out the alarm, however, dont know if you pull the "brian" out if the car will be disable, will check the wiring, also, one would need to know what two wires to "jump" to cover this.

any alarm can be had should a thief need your car, i have the club, and the unstoppable lock together.

car is parked in lit areas and at home CCD cameras cover my driveway

Ice, just got your message am working on that wire for you, also for ajahearn:

the wire is:Pin #6 of the SEM Color: Yellow with red stripe, this is the same wire under the hood which is a yellow with black stripe wire. this wire is at +12v and when the hood is open, pulls to ground or with the shock sensor, when the sensor is activated, the blue sensor wire pulls this wire to ground.

REMEMBER TO DISCOONECT THE BATTERY BEFORE WORKING AS A PRECAUTION.

neil

Tanman

Don't forget about the front hood. Seems theives can easily pry open our hoods without setting off the alarm to get to the HIDs. Or is the NVIS something other than the stock security system?

remykins

It may just be me but what is the SEM? This sounds like a relatively easy mod for me to do. Is there any way to add a trunk sensor as well?

neil

remykins:

SEM i tend to call it that .. it's really Smart Entrance Control Unit which is part of the keyless entry and also is the home for the alarm system ...

SEM (smart entrace system)

no need to add truck sensor as there is one already integrated into the latch which triggers the truck light and the alarm system when armed.

neil

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

I don't believe they are opening the hood. They are just prying them out through the front breaking off the mounting tabs and ballast, but I could be wrong. Once the hood is open, you just pull each horns wire(3-seconds max) and then disconnect the battery by pulling the fuse(haven't tried yet, but looks easy). Very easy and quick thing to do.

The NVIS will not allow the car to start without the computer chip in the key, but the HIDs and contents of the vehicle are still vulnerable.

remykins

Thanks for the info.
One more question: Where is the SEM located if I decide to install the shock sensor without drilling the hole in the firewall?

neil

with the lower instrument panel removed, the SEM is located to the right of the steering shaft ...

cant miss it, it is mounted at 45 deg, with all of its connectors facing down.

neil

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

Remove the lower dash fairing under the steering column.

If you sitting in the drivers' seat it's to the right of your right knee on the side of the radio and A/C console.

Your going to want some other reference wires colors and pin numbers to make sure you've located the correct one. Otherwise, it's a little difficult to know 100% sure which is which.

neil

ICE:

read above, i listed the pin # and color code of the wire that he needs to tap into for the shock sensor addition.

Conector M115, pin 6, yellow with red stripe. at least this is for the 2000-2001, you can buzz out pin 6 (yellow/red) to the hood to verify if you have a 2002.

neil

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

I saw that, but it's pretty hard figuring which is which without know the colors of a couple other wires to use for reference. Pin numbers are worthless unless you know the Nissan numbering system.

I know which one it is, but someone who's just hunting for a yellow with red stripe is going to be hesitant without a few other wires to double check that they're in the right area.

Give him pins 1, 5, and 7 colors at least.

neil

Connector M143 (not M115) Pin 5= Gray, Pin 6 Yellow w/red stripe, Pin 7=Red, Pin 1=Sky Blue,

this connector only have pins 1-24 on it.

ICE I can see your point

neil

remykins

Thanks again for the help. I will take a look on my 2k2 this weekend.

twodmax

Yes I upgraded fom the factory alarm system with shock sensor, also closes the doors when you start the car...

IceY2K1

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Wow! Now that would be cool.

twodmax

Audovox dealer alarms have a upgrade package for about $160. I did it on mine and it closes the doors when you start the car and I still have the remote from factory.

My Site:
www.geocities.com/twodmax2002

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

What do you mean "it closes the doors when you start the car"?

ajahearn

iTrader: (3)

Any chance you could post something in the FAQ as to how you did this? or provide some details on what model you used, etc?

koostermax

i think they meant to say it locks the doors... cause i was gonna ask them the same thing too...

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

That's what I'm hoping, but he's said it TWICE.

twodmax

no not from nissan from a installer of alarms that only works in dealersships. The alarm is an upgrade that works with the nissan alarm.

koostermax

just to prove my point...

no alarm is gonna close the door after us once we get in right unless it was mechanically linked to some mechanism that pulls the door shut when you turn on the ignition.

the only way our maximas and 99.5% of the cars will close the door behind us after we turn on the ignition is my are very own appendages that we call hands, arms and or legs...

i'm not trying to bash anyone, just helping them see there faults...

one more thing, it would be useless or pointless to have to turn on the engine just to "close the door".

IceY2K1

iTrader: (3)

Prove what?

He's apparently still confused about what he's talking about. See above. You and I are not.

I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT, I'M JUST SEEING HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR HIM TO REALIZE WHAT HE'S SAYING.

Never mind.

panman

Damn, my friend recently had the dealer install "shock sensor upgrade" to her Honda Accord for a "special low price" of $500 ...when it appears that all they installed was that dinky $10 sensor. Glad I didn't let the dealer talk me into any of that kind of stuff.

twodmax

if you wish we can talk about on the phone to explain better...