"Do not to others what ye do not wish done to yourself"
RESPECT the elders!

 

You think we have to much pride in our Maxima's because we don't accept "your" facts?!

- You want a CLS owner to "teach" us a lesson.

- You only want to compare 00-01 Auto Maxima's against the CL Type S (duh... 222 VS. 260, wonder who would win ). Next time, don't start a thread and change your mind half way in it because you noticed that you where WRONG! [i]"i see so many posts with people saying how 2000+ maximas are faster, i highly doubt that now. [b]even 2k2'2 will be beat by this car. not badly like i was, but they will. im pretty sure


here comes Mr. superstar to save the day,
shut up man. you don't even know what you are talking about you fool.
this is exactly what i mean about pride and your damn car.
1st - i an wrong about the 3.2CL being a lighter car. i admit it dude.
2nd - YES, a CL 3.2 s-type will/should teach you a lesson.
3rd - i was very unclear in stating what i actually wanted to say. i apologize. but 222 VS 260, so are you admitting we(00 and 01 mx's) can't win because of the HP? then can you please tell that to the stubborn people who keep posting their AUTO maxima's burned a CL s-type!
4th- i still believe the 3.2 CL's s-type will burn some 2k2's, why not? i'm sure 2k2's will burn alot of them as well. don't you agree it would be a very close race?
thanks

 

when u talked about this "beats" by that...what are u really refering to? race from a dead stop?

I am tired of ppl just determine the result by looking at the numbers but not the situations. If that is ture, u dun need to race anybody anymore and all u have to do is to dyno ur car and put ur HP on ur window. whoever has a high number wins....

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]
[B]when u talked about this "beats" by that...what are u really refering to? race from a dead stop?

I am tired of ppl just determine the result by looking at the numbers but not the situations. If that is ture, u dun need to race anybody anymore and all u have to do is to dyno ur car and put ur HP on ur window. whoever has a high number wins....


yes sorry i mentioned it in my very first post, but the thread has gotten so long wow...
i mean (Both cars auto)from standing point or highway.
will be burned by a CLS. not 2k2's okay? only 00 and 01's.
no mods and anythign like that.
is that understandable? kool thanx

 

Bring one on sweetheart... I have a 2K2 Auto, and my buddy has a 2K2 6 speed, let me know when so we can do a double spanking ! .... Just because you got stuck with a slow Maxx.. "Thanks Nissan ".... doesnt mean every other 2K, and 2K2's are slow ...

 

holy cow, maximas are not slow!
maximas are out@!
especially 2k2's!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by maxima00
[B]Who cares?? Your comparison was stupid in the first place. Look at the numbers on the CL-S vs 2k-2k1 Auto Maxima. 260hp vs 222..The CL-S wins hands down. Now the 2k2 vs CL-S is a drivers race.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



SOMEONE is on my side~

 

Yep, all that sound deading, but I don't mind! I like going 80 with no sound! :P

 

If you want to start a name calling contest, I will not play with you anymore

Oh, please stop acting like a kid.

 

Okay, one last time
2000 5-speed vs cl-s auto= Driver (manual=good launch blah blah)
2000 auto vs Cl-S auto = Cl-S win
2002 Auto vs Cl-S auto = Driver
2002 6speed vs Cl-S 6 speed= Driver

 

Russ, if maxima00 would stop acting like a kid for a minute, I would tell him that I like the CLS and TLS as much as my Maxima.

 

Sure you do! :P

 

Accords are SLOW...Period.

 

I went by the Acura dealer last week to see the 6spd CLS. GREAT car but, up here in Canada, the price diff. is too much to justify it over the 03 Maxima 6spd.!

 

You drive it? I want to drive one, but if I do, it might be bad for my health. :P

 

its not that I hate Acuras or the people the drive them, but these asinine posts are a bit annoying.. once again, we are talking about CLS and TL's, not maximas or anything related to them..

 

ditto.

 

I'm not sure about weights...but I remember reading in some major automotive magazine that the TL-S is actually faster than the CL-S.

 

And your wallet

 

...because the TL-S was supposedly not stock. It was equipped with what one magazine referred to as "an experimental exhaust manifold". "Experimental exhaust manifold" = Comptech Headers which is over $1000 but produces some insane gains on those cars. Acura did that to hype up the TL-S, but both cars are mechanically identical and their weights are within a few pounds of each other so their real-world-stock performance is identical.

 

But don't forget the price difference though. B/W a new CL-S or TL-S nd a Max (00-02) it's still a huge price gap. More than enough to get a SC/other mods, and wake&bake an Acura.

 

You beat me to it Steve!

Russ, DON'T go there. RESIST!

 

Oh ok, that answer sounds good to me! Do you remember which mag it was in?

 

No Russ, don't listen to him. You know you want that 6spd bad boy CL-S. You're bored in the stands at the track watching other people run, and you fear those 2k2 Maxima 6spds. Just get that puppy and add an intake and Comptech Headers and you'll be able to seriously beat up on a lot of cars. Plus you hate that gearing hole in your 5AT after 110, and all that stupid idiot proofing on the SportShift.

Come on, just go for an innocent little test drive. It's not like you'd be crazy enough to trade your car in after only a single model year.



























Let's see if we can make Russ be the first person to be paying $50k for an 03 CL-S 6spd....after all the money he lost on all those trade-in's.

 

The TL-S is not faster than the CL-S, that was proven, just so happens that TL-S had headers on it :P

 

lol!! Never Steve!

 

Since I have owned both a 2001 cl-s auto and a 2002 maxima 6 speed, i feel i can give a pretty fair opinion on the faster car. Agreeing with other replies, if it were the two cars I owned against each other (no mods) I would say the Maxima wins. If it was a Cl-S 6 sp. vs. the Maxima 6 sp. it would definitely come down to the drivers, probably too close to call...I think election officials from Florida should come in and figure it out..I hear they are good at deciding close outcomes.

 

I can only reply to my experience.. TL-S VS Stock Max 2K2 Auto..= Smoked side of Acura, since my margin was 2 cars, can a CL-S 6 speeed make that up... If He can .. can he make up 4 car lenghts, which is what I lost to Leftcoast, in his 6 speed .... So if your CL-S speed demon, can beat me by 4 cars..... then brag about owning a Max 6 speed !........ Stop Talking on the boards... let's settle it at the track !

 

The reason the TL-S is a bit quicker than the CL-S is because of the heavier CL-S rims which add additional unsprung weight. And I don't know why I keep hearing this Comptech Header equipped cars B.S. being sent to the magazines. I think that's just everyones disbelief that the TL-S/CL-S are that quick. Stock, at E-town, my TL-S mustered out a 14.78 1/4 mile (and that was my first time ever to the track), which is prety consistent with what around 6 different car magazines say the TL-S runs. With the headers, I hope to be running around a 14.4. I'll keep you guys posted when I actually get time to go back to the track. Hopefully, I'll see a 2K2 6-speed to run with.

Also, does anyone know if there is a big difference in weight between a 2k2 maxima and an I35, because every magazine has shown the TL-S to dust the I35 in comparo tests. If so, a 2k2 auto vs. TL-S race is not so much a drivers race after all.

 

Well, just to throw some fuel on the fire. 14.7s are common by 4th/5th 5spd with bolt ons. Combine that with superior top end (at least for 5th gens) after the 1/4 when the S hits 4th and us slow old 222 hp guys can save our dignity.

I know, I know . . . it is modded vs. stock, and you'd run faster with headers, but that ought to be enough to cause some concern next time you pull up to one.

 

You beat the driver, not the car. Please get that in your head.

 

Your stupid for a TL-S owner for sure. CL-S has the same exact rims, as the TL-S. LOL! Also the TL-S is 200lb heavier, its bigger, its got 4 doors. It is more rare to see a TL-S in the 14s than CL-S.

 

With alot of bolt ons of course its common, but we are talking about stock. We can say with bolt ons the CL-S or TL-S can hit 14.1-14.3. Which it has commonly.

 

I was not talking about stock vs. stock.

I was talking about modified 2k/2k1 and CL-S/TL-S stock, wasn't that clear?

 

Well, the TL-S is equipped with 17X6.5 rims and the CL-S 17X7. So I dont know how much a weight difference between the two rims. I know for a fact that CL-S is lighter than TL-S like 80-90 lbs..

 

Do any of you people have something better to do then have measuring contests and/or penisenvy? Good heavens. Wouldn't 5 plus pages of bandwidth in these forums be better spent improving the Maxima instead of arguing over some stupidass 1/4 mile times and trying to split hairs over how much a driver weighs and whether they are competent?

Facts:

The TL is a great car.
The CL is a great car.
The Maxima is a great car.
The Accord is a great car.

None of them are really all that comparable against each other. You have 2 premium brands against 2 mainstream brands, and then a "4-door V6 sports car" versus a 4 banger/V6 reliable family transportation that does the job great for the price. All accomplish the same thing in different ways. Be proud of what you've been blessed with instead of brow-beating others perfectly fine rides. Keep the flames where they belong: on GM's so called "world class" vehicles.





Oh, I almost forgot:

Hondas and Acuras ROCK!

 

 

*cough* *cough* I thought you didn't race this car Russ.... shame shame...

 

Hey, RussMaxManiac,

Who the hell do you think you are calling me a fool. First thing, the CL-S/TL-S have different rims, so who's the idiot. Personally, I think the only fool is you. I think about 99.99% of this board agrees.