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wheel gap with Pilot A/S 235/50/17
ok people here is the link...
please give your comment. thank you for all your patient Pilot A/S 235/50 Erwin |
nice tires! the 235s look good on the max. i cant believe i was considering upgrading to 255s once upon a time! ;)
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Those look awesome! They are already my plan for tire replacement. Good to see how they look!
Originally posted by lcf nice tires! the 235s look good on the max. i cant believe i was considering upgrading to 255s once upon a time! ;) |
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Just took my name off of the list waiting for the stock 225 Pilots. Going to get 235/50's. Thanks!
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Those look great. Is it OK to put the 235/50/17 on the stock 7" rrims?
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Originally posted by jjames Those look great. Is it OK to put the 235/50/17 on the stock 7" rrims? Those tires REALLY look sweet, Erwin. In fact, they're SO sweet that I no longer have to consider lowering my Maxima to get rid of unsightly fender gap. That's what I was hoping for, of course. Regardless of what anyone says, lowering a car stiffens the ride. And the ride on my SE is already stiff enough for my liking. Congratulations for starting a new trend! When it's time for me to purchase new tires, they will DEFINITELY be 235/50R17s. :jump: Imitation is the highest form of flattery. |
Thank you all
You all welcome.
enjoy your new tires and remember the breaking period. Immitation hmmm.... damn.. I need a new nickname? any ideas? Erwin |
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Originally posted by exunaja You all welcome. enjoy your new tires and remember the breaking period. Y2kse? where are you? Erwin |
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Originally posted by jjames Those look great. Is it OK to put the 235/50/17 on the stock 7" rrims? Yes - check the link. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....5&pagenumber=5 |
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Only problem now is that your spedo is going to slow. When it says you are doing 60, you will really be going 61. Looks good though.
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ahh one more thing
welcome to the Pilot A/S 's family!
Welcome to the Pilot A/S 's family! shall we start a new club? Erwin |
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Originally posted by maxse01 Only problem now is that your spedo is going to slow. When it says you are doing 60, you will really be going 61. Looks good though. All things considered, I'd say that the 235/50R17 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S is hands-down the best tire money can buy for the 5th Gen Nissan Maxima with OEM rims and a stock ride height. |
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Originally posted by maxse01 Only problem now is that your spedo is going to slow. When it says you are doing 60, you will really be going 61. Looks good though. :D Erwin |
but how do these tires handle in the rain?
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Erwin where did you get them mounted?
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Originally posted by y2kse Go up a couple of posts, my friend. Erwin |
Originally posted by slickrick but how do these tires handle in the rain? still waiting for rain to come I'll update once we have rain in Dallas Erwin |
Originally posted by yongjun Erwin where did you get them mounted? Was up? I got it mounted at a local shops at Denton Hwy, North Richland Hill. not recommended but it's cheap. |
Would that size work on a lower Maxima? I have Eibach pro-kit on my car. I'm wondering would there be enough clearance to fit those tire on stock rims on my car. I'm also tired of waiting for the 225/50-17 from TireRack. Maybe I'll try the 235/50-17 Pilot A/S instead. Thx.
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Originally posted by Omegasrk Would that size work on a lower Maxima? I have Eibach pro-kit on my car. I'm wondering would there be enough clearance to fit those tire on stock rims on my car. I'm also tired of waiting for the 225/50-17 from TireRack. Maybe I'll try the 235/50-17 Pilot A/S instead. Thx. |
Originally posted by exunaja Hi YJ! Was up? I got it mounted at a local shops at Denton Hwy, North Richland Hill. not recommended but it's cheap. hehe just curious cause the pictures reminded me of the back of intercrew. |
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Originally posted by y2kse All things considered, I'd say that the 235/50R17 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S is hands-down the best tire money can buy for the 5th Gen Nissan Maxima with OEM rims and a stock ride height. |
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Originally posted by ABS Y2KSE, I'm curious why you think this size tire is better than a 225/50/17? I would think you would recommend the Michelin tire in the stock size. After all, we really have enough side wall height with the stock size to begin with unless, that is unless you feel that the extra height of the 235/50 is compensated for by the extra width gained on it? Just curious to know your rationale. Thanks! The second is as an answer to those who hate the amount of fender gap the 225/50R17 produces with a stock ride height but find the idea of lowering their car daunting. For them, the only available alternative is to run tires with a wider diameter. Third, there are actually some people who don't think that the 225/50R17 is compliant enough. I happen to be among them. The 235/50R17 will produce a more compliant ride than the 225/50R17. And the traction produced by a Michelin Pilot Sport A/S should more than make up for the increased sidewall height. Hope that answers your questions. |
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Originally posted by y2kse Hope that answers your question. That does answer my question. Thanks for the quick response. Are there any other decent tires worth considering in the 235/50 size besides the Michelin? I might be interested in something less expensive . . . |
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Originally posted by y2kse Third, there are actually some people who don't think that the 225/50R17 is compliant enough. I happen to be among them. The 235/50R17 will produce a more compliant ride than the 225/50R17. And the traction produced by a Michelin Pilot Sport A/S should more than make up for the increased sidewall height. |
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Originally posted by ABS YSKSE, That does answer my question. Thanks for the quick response. Are there any other decent tires worth considering in the 235/50 size besides the Michelin? I might be interested in something less expensive . . . |
Originally posted by yongjun Oh you could have always gone to Oak cliff and got them mounted for 2 dollars a tire. hehe just curious cause the pictures reminded me of the back of intercrew. |
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Originally posted by y2kse The only other tires I'm familiar with in the 235/50 size are the Pirelli PZero System Asimmetrico and the Pirelli P6000. You can get specs on those at Tirerack.com. |
Originally posted by exunaja for 20-30 more per tire you can get a pilot A/S. |
rain just started here in Ft. worth.
I will try the pilot capability in the wet weather soon.. I'll report my finding tommorow.. hmmm ;) Erwin |
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Originally posted by maxse01 Only problem now is that your spedo is going to slow. When it says you are doing 60, you will really be going 61. Looks good though. One thing that has not been mentioned is: Since the 235/50/17 tire will be approx. 1.5% slower than OEM, then the odometer will read 1.5% less miles than it accurately should. Thus for every 1000 miles, you will have shaved 15 miles of the odometer! Not much, but yet another reason for the Pilots. ;) |
Interesting where this is headed...some thoughts
Y2KseV...I dunno that I agree with you that a 235 will be more compliant than the 225 because the 235 is a 96 load rated tire versus a 94 load rating for the 225. If that is due to some additional internal structure within the tire that could negate the added flexibility from 4mm additional sidewall.
Also for all to keep in mind, the diameter change between this tire and the stock Potenza is not 1.5%, it's 2.2%: 26.6 inches versus 25.9 inches and while that does fill the wheel well better, it also effectively 'lengthens' the gear ratios; it essentially makes every gear 2.2% longer. Will help mileage but will definitely be detrimental to acceleration, particularly in the top gears. Me? I'm staying with the softer-riding, more compliant, less aggressive -and stock diameter MXM4s....dying for them to get here |
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Originally posted by exunaja ok people here is the link... please give your comment. thank you for all your patient Pilot A/S 235/50 Erwin |
Those 235/50/17 Michelin Pilot Sport AS look awesome. These are the EXACT TIRES that I've purchased. They should reach my local Tire Corral on Friday. Can't wait! Thanks so much for the pics. You did an excellent job of posting pics with different angles and comparing them to the crappy RE 92s.
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hod up...235/50/17 will rub if my car is dropped? im on progress springs...i was actually ready...:bawling:
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Re: Interesting where this is headed...some thoughts
Originally posted by Galo Y2KseV...I dunno that I agree with you that a 235 will be more compliant than the 225 because the 235 is a 96 load rated tire versus a 94 load rating for the 225. If that is due to some additional internal structure within the tire that could negate the added flexibility from 4mm additional sidewall. Also for all to keep in mind, the diameter change between this tire and the stock Potenza is not 1.5%, it's 2.2%: 26.6 inches versus 25.9 inches and while that does fill the wheel well better, it also effectively 'lengthens' the gear ratios; it essentially makes every gear 2.2% longer. Will help mileage but will definitely be detrimental to acceleration, particularly in the top gears. Me? I'm staying with the softer-riding, more compliant, less aggressive -and stock diameter MXM4s....dying for them to get here Your point about lengthening the gear ratios is valid. I wonder just how detrimental to acceleration running the wider diameter tire will be. I suspect it won't be too noticeable. Perhaps Erwin could give us a report on that. Keep us posted on those MXM4s. :) |
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Originally posted by y2kse Interesting post, Galo. I'm not sure what the relationship is between load rating and compliance. I know that both are related to the amount of air the tire can hold. Obviously a 235/50R17 can hold more air than a 225/50R17. Given that they both have the same aspect ratio, it seems reasonable to assume that the 235/50 would be more compliant than the 225/50. But I don't know that for a fact. Your point about lengthening the gear ratios is valid. I wonder just how detrimental to acceleration running the wider diameter tire will be. I suspect it won't be too noticeable. Perhaps Erwin could give us a report on that. Keep us posted on those MXM4s. :) (which in terms is plus sizing) but im gonna try to get as close as a match to the stock overall diamter of the wheel and tire combined. the closest one o stock that ive found for the 225/50/17 that matches within 0.XXX % is the 245/35/19 almost exactly the same overall. its just slightly larger. what site was it on..... http://www.5thgenmaximas.com/ go to the tire and wheel calculator. mybad if i listed any wrong info. just throwin in my .02 peace |
Hmmmmm . . .
Originally posted by 2K1HoMax its not the width that does anything, all that does is increase the contact patch giving u better handeling, braking, and accleration. its the overall diamter of the wheel increasing whats goin to add to the rotaional mass :confused: |
Wow...now you're getting REALLY techie on...
..this rotational mass thing.
If I faintly remember my Dynamics class (more years ao than I wanna admit to) the rotational mass would change if a) the overall weight of the unit was greater and b) the weight's distribution within the wheel/tire assembly moves outwards from the center of the wheel. Given that tires are usually heavier than wheels (good wheels, et least) it's intuitive that yes a 19" wheel could have more rotational inertia than a 17" diameter assembly of equal weight because both the wheel's rim as well as the tire are farther away from the hub -but it would be a ***** to calculate the overall impact would be..maybe a much yourger (fresher) en-ga-neer could figure it out |
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