Suspension advice- multiple choice
07-03-2002, 05:55 PM
#1
Suspension advice- multiple choice
I hate my suspension. It rides oh so rough. I have the following:
Ground control coilovers with Eibach springs
Front: All the way down
Rear: All the way up
225 40 18 tires
I believe my struts are blown, but I am considering going with a softer spring. My question is this:
Should I:
A. Remove the coilovers in the front and just go with the Eibach spring itself. This MIGHT? make the ride a wee bit smoother with the spring having more room to travel. Also get new struts.
B. Get new springs altogether. They aren't that expensive and if I have to buy new struts anyhow, I can do it all at once. Sell the GCs to someone else. And buy new struts.
C. Buy only new struts (Tokico fronts and AGX rears). See what happens. Then buy new springs if it is still rough.
Please help. Sorry to post 90 threads about this but right now I get carsick driving to work.
Ground control coilovers with Eibach springs
Front: All the way down
Rear: All the way up
225 40 18 tires
I believe my struts are blown, but I am considering going with a softer spring. My question is this:
Should I:
A. Remove the coilovers in the front and just go with the Eibach spring itself. This MIGHT? make the ride a wee bit smoother with the spring having more room to travel. Also get new struts.
B. Get new springs altogether. They aren't that expensive and if I have to buy new struts anyhow, I can do it all at once. Sell the GCs to someone else. And buy new struts.
C. Buy only new struts (Tokico fronts and AGX rears). See what happens. Then buy new springs if it is still rough.
Please help. Sorry to post 90 threads about this but right now I get carsick driving to work.
07-03-2002, 06:09 PM
#4
Originally posted by mzmtg
Raise the front up some and get AGXs all the way around.
Raise the front up some and get AGXs all the way around.
I am seriously considering those Maxspeeds now.....
07-03-2002, 06:10 PM
#5
Originally posted by asu174
There is a nasty rumor gojng around that AGX's won't work with Eibach (started by Deven).
I am seriously considering those Maxspeeds now.....
There is a nasty rumor gojng around that AGX's won't work with Eibach (started by Deven).
I am seriously considering those Maxspeeds now.....
07-03-2002, 06:23 PM
#6
Originally posted by mzmtg
Um, why wouldnt they work with one particular brand of spring?
Um, why wouldnt they work with one particular brand of spring?
07-03-2002, 06:30 PM
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Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by asu174
Should I:
A. Remove the coilovers in the front and just go with the Eibach spring itself. This MIGHT? make the ride a wee bit smoother with the spring having more room to travel. Also get new struts.
Should I:
A. Remove the coilovers in the front and just go with the Eibach spring itself. This MIGHT? make the ride a wee bit smoother with the spring having more room to travel. Also get new struts.
07-03-2002, 06:38 PM
#8
Re: Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Will the Eibach springs that come with the coilovers fit ontop of the struts? They are different springs than the Eibachs that you buy separatly aren't they? Are you running stock sturts now with the coilovers? You could just raise it up a little bit so its not as harsh, since you said you have it all the way down now which I can't imagine how bad that ride is.
Will the Eibach springs that come with the coilovers fit ontop of the struts? They are different springs than the Eibachs that you buy separatly aren't they? Are you running stock sturts now with the coilovers? You could just raise it up a little bit so its not as harsh, since you said you have it all the way down now which I can't imagine how bad that ride is.
The wheel gap looks horrendous if I raise it up any more (see sig pic). It looks oh so sweet right now.
That is a damn good question. Is the Eibach kit different than regular springs???
I just read this info and I am virtually sold on Maxspeeds. Perfect drop. Perfect ride. Who has these with pics????
How low will my car be with these springs?
Inches (front/back)
Eibach 1.3, 1.0 (stiff)
H&R 1.4, 1.3 (near stock)
Progress 1.7, 1.5 (near stock)
Intrax 1.75 all around
Sprint 2.0 all around (stiff)
B&G 1.6, 1.6
Ground Controls adjustable (very stiff)
MaxSpeed 1.7, 1.4 (near stock)
07-03-2002, 06:50 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by asu174
Stock struts.
The wheel gap looks horrendous if I raise it up any more (see sig pic). It looks oh so sweet right now.
That is a damn good question. Is the Eibach kit different than regular springs???
I just read this info and I am virtually sold on Maxspeeds. Perfect drop. Perfect ride. Who has these with pics????
How low will my car be with these springs?
Inches (front/back)
Eibach 1.3, 1.0 (stiff)
H&R 1.4, 1.3 (near stock)
Progress 1.7, 1.5 (near stock)
Intrax 1.75 all around
Sprint 2.0 all around (stiff)
B&G 1.6, 1.6
Ground Controls adjustable (very stiff)
MaxSpeed 1.7, 1.4 (near stock)
Stock struts.
The wheel gap looks horrendous if I raise it up any more (see sig pic). It looks oh so sweet right now.
That is a damn good question. Is the Eibach kit different than regular springs???
I just read this info and I am virtually sold on Maxspeeds. Perfect drop. Perfect ride. Who has these with pics????
How low will my car be with these springs?
Inches (front/back)
Eibach 1.3, 1.0 (stiff)
H&R 1.4, 1.3 (near stock)
Progress 1.7, 1.5 (near stock)
Intrax 1.75 all around
Sprint 2.0 all around (stiff)
B&G 1.6, 1.6
Ground Controls adjustable (very stiff)
MaxSpeed 1.7, 1.4 (near stock)
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07-03-2002, 07:10 PM
#11
Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by asu174
I hate my suspension. It rides oh so rough. I have the following:
Ground control coilovers with Eibach springs
Front: All the way down
Rear: All the way up
225 40 18 tires
I believe my struts are blown, but I am considering going with a softer spring. My question is this:
Should I:
A. Remove the coilovers in the front and just go with the Eibach spring itself. This MIGHT? make the ride a wee bit smoother with the spring having more room to travel. Also get new struts.
B. Get new springs altogether. They aren't that expensive and if I have to buy new struts anyhow, I can do it all at once. Sell the GCs to someone else. And buy new struts.
C. Buy only new struts (Tokico fronts and AGX rears). See what happens. Then buy new springs if it is still rough.
Please help. Sorry to post 90 threads about this but right now I get carsick driving to work.
I hate my suspension. It rides oh so rough. I have the following:
Ground control coilovers with Eibach springs
Front: All the way down
Rear: All the way up
225 40 18 tires
I believe my struts are blown, but I am considering going with a softer spring. My question is this:
Should I:
A. Remove the coilovers in the front and just go with the Eibach spring itself. This MIGHT? make the ride a wee bit smoother with the spring having more room to travel. Also get new struts.
B. Get new springs altogether. They aren't that expensive and if I have to buy new struts anyhow, I can do it all at once. Sell the GCs to someone else. And buy new struts.
C. Buy only new struts (Tokico fronts and AGX rears). See what happens. Then buy new springs if it is still rough.
Please help. Sorry to post 90 threads about this but right now I get carsick driving to work.
B. This would be your cheapest option and probably the most practical.
C. If you are going this route, better to go with route B.
D. Buy new struts and replace the Eibachs that came with the GC's with the ERS (Eibach Race Springs)with a softer rate. They make the ERS in just about every different size and rate. They also have a dual ERS kit that uses two springs. Once spring is at a softer rate than the other, it's for the smaller bumps while the other has a stiffer rate. The stiffer spring only comes into play when the softer "tender" spring is compressed all the way.
For refference on my JIC setup my springs rates are 9000KG/cm sq front, and 8000KG/cm sq in the rear. (Someone do the math and figure out what that is in lbs.)
07-03-2002, 07:27 PM
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Re: Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by cobymoby
A. No, won't make a noticeable difference.
B. This would be your cheapest option and probably the most practical.
C. If you are going this route, better to go with route B.
D. Buy new struts and replace the Eibachs that came with the GC's with the ERS (Eibach Race Springs)with a softer rate. They make the ERS in just about every different size and rate. They also have a dual ERS kit that uses two springs. Once spring is at a softer rate than the other, it's for the smaller bumps while the other has a stiffer rate. The stiffer spring only comes into play when the softer "tender" spring is compressed all the way.
For refference on my JIC setup my springs rates are 9000KG/cm sq front, and 8000KG/cm sq in the rear. (Someone do the math and figure out what that is in lbs.)
A. No, won't make a noticeable difference.
B. This would be your cheapest option and probably the most practical.
C. If you are going this route, better to go with route B.
D. Buy new struts and replace the Eibachs that came with the GC's with the ERS (Eibach Race Springs)with a softer rate. They make the ERS in just about every different size and rate. They also have a dual ERS kit that uses two springs. Once spring is at a softer rate than the other, it's for the smaller bumps while the other has a stiffer rate. The stiffer spring only comes into play when the softer "tender" spring is compressed all the way.
For refference on my JIC setup my springs rates are 9000KG/cm sq front, and 8000KG/cm sq in the rear. (Someone do the math and figure out what that is in lbs.)
07-03-2002, 07:44 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by asu174
Eibach's website sucks. I can't find this alleged double spring kit anywhere. And they don't have a "contact us" section either. So you are saying that my GC Coilovers could work with a different set of springs....interesting revelation.....
Eibach's website sucks. I can't find this alleged double spring kit anywhere. And they don't have a "contact us" section either. So you are saying that my GC Coilovers could work with a different set of springs....interesting revelation.....
Eibach's number
07-03-2002, 07:45 PM
#15
Re: Re: Re: Re: Suspension advice- multiple choice
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
949.752.6700
Eibach's number
949.752.6700
Eibach's number
07-03-2002, 09:48 PM
#16
Maxspeeds are out. Not low enough for me. Those Eibach springs must be much lower than the standard ones. I have at least 2 inches in the front.
I think I'm gonna just get KYBs and hope for the best.
I think I'm gonna just get KYBs and hope for the best.
07-03-2002, 09:56 PM
#17
Originally posted by asu174
Maxspeeds are out. Not low enough for me. Those Eibach springs must be much lower than the standard ones. I have at least 2 inches in the front.
I think I'm gonna just get KYBs and hope for the best.
Maxspeeds are out. Not low enough for me. Those Eibach springs must be much lower than the standard ones. I have at least 2 inches in the front.
I think I'm gonna just get KYBs and hope for the best.
07-03-2002, 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
Maxspeeds are out. Not low enough for me. Those Eibach springs must be much lower than the standard ones. I have at least 2 inches in the front.
I think I'm gonna just get KYBs and hope for the best.
Maxspeeds are out. Not low enough for me. Those Eibach springs must be much lower than the standard ones. I have at least 2 inches in the front.
I think I'm gonna just get KYBs and hope for the best.
07-03-2002, 10:00 PM
#19
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Those Eibachs are adjustable though.
Those Eibachs are adjustable though.
07-03-2002, 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
Gotcha. I thought they were regular Eibach springs. Therefore, I was thinking that a car with plain ol' Eibach springs would be lower than mine because of the coilover in the way. But now that I realize that they ARE different springs, I think I'm gonna stick with them. I like being low. My shocks are destroyed I think..... That will probably make a huge difference.
Gotcha. I thought they were regular Eibach springs. Therefore, I was thinking that a car with plain ol' Eibach springs would be lower than mine because of the coilover in the way. But now that I realize that they ARE different springs, I think I'm gonna stick with them. I like being low. My shocks are destroyed I think..... That will probably make a huge difference.
07-03-2002, 10:16 PM
#21
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Just get AGX's and then you can adjust the ride comfort. I think that would be a good option for you.
Just get AGX's and then you can adjust the ride comfort. I think that would be a good option for you.
07-04-2002, 06:01 AM
#23
VQ- Apparently Deven (forgot the rest of his name) has issues, but from the looks of it I think it was a one time deal.
Kloogy- I was actually looking at your homepage to determine the Maxspeed drop. Look at my car compared to yours. I have about a half inch of wheel gap on the front and the rear. I HATE wheel gap.
From the looks of your ride, it looks like a bit more wheel gap. Granted, your car rides 10x smoother than mine, but I like the look of it right now as is.
Kloogy- I was actually looking at your homepage to determine the Maxspeed drop. Look at my car compared to yours. I have about a half inch of wheel gap on the front and the rear. I HATE wheel gap.
From the looks of your ride, it looks like a bit more wheel gap. Granted, your car rides 10x smoother than mine, but I like the look of it right now as is.
07-04-2002, 06:13 AM
#24
Originally posted by VQdriver
no problems here..why wouldn't they work?
no problems here..why wouldn't they work?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....install+dramma
07-04-2002, 07:09 AM
#25
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Just get AGX's and then you can adjust the ride comfort. I think that would be a good option for you.
Just get AGX's and then you can adjust the ride comfort. I think that would be a good option for you.
I could have search but it was too tempting to ask.
Cheers
AA
07-04-2002, 07:27 AM
#26
Originally posted by doublea
Hey Greg's2kGLE, does the AGX are direct fit no modification to made to those before throwing in.
I could have search but it was too tempting to ask.
Cheers
AA
Hey Greg's2kGLE, does the AGX are direct fit no modification to made to those before throwing in.
I could have search but it was too tempting to ask.
Cheers
AA
You apparently need to buy the modified ones from Cattman and also shave off your strut mount a bit.
07-04-2002, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by doublea
Hey Greg's2kGLE, does the AGX are direct fit no modification to made to those before throwing in.
I could have search but it was too tempting to ask.
Cheers
AA
Hey Greg's2kGLE, does the AGX are direct fit no modification to made to those before throwing in.
I could have search but it was too tempting to ask.
Cheers
AA
07-04-2002, 10:14 AM
#28
Originally posted by asu174
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....install+dramma
You apparently need to buy the modified ones from Cattman and also shave off your strut mount a bit.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....install+dramma
You apparently need to buy the modified ones from Cattman and also shave off your strut mount a bit.
thanks man..
albert
07-04-2002, 12:48 PM
#29
Originally posted by rob van dam
one thing..since you have a stillen camber kit up front..you will not need to do any modifications....the shocks will fit on just fine up front...trust me........since you are doing modified kyb's and the gc's.....tell me how it goes...if that setup works....then i will get that same setup..because i want coilovers so BADLY!!!
thanks man..
albert
one thing..since you have a stillen camber kit up front..you will not need to do any modifications....the shocks will fit on just fine up front...trust me........since you are doing modified kyb's and the gc's.....tell me how it goes...if that setup works....then i will get that same setup..because i want coilovers so BADLY!!!
thanks man..
albert
07-04-2002, 02:50 PM
#30
Originally posted by rob van dam
one thing..since you have a stillen camber kit up front..you will not need to do any modifications....the shocks will fit on just fine up front...trust me........since you are doing modified kyb's and the gc's.....tell me how it goes...if that setup works....then i will get that same setup..because i want coilovers so BADLY!!!
thanks man..
albert
one thing..since you have a stillen camber kit up front..you will not need to do any modifications....the shocks will fit on just fine up front...trust me........since you are doing modified kyb's and the gc's.....tell me how it goes...if that setup works....then i will get that same setup..because i want coilovers so BADLY!!!
thanks man..
albert
07-04-2002, 05:15 PM
#31
Originally posted by asu174
Oh and the new spring of choice would be Maxspeeds...unless anyone has horror stories. And yes, I know I missed the Group Deal. I am a retard.
Oh and the new spring of choice would be Maxspeeds...unless anyone has horror stories. And yes, I know I missed the Group Deal. I am a retard.
07-05-2002, 03:05 AM
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07-08-2002, 08:19 PM
#34
Just a note...I installed the MaxSpeed on the 4th Gen AGX rear (I have a 2k2) and it fits like ****. It doesn't really make noise while driving but going over speed bumps or driveways, it makes a horrible noise. It does not even come close to sitting right on the perch. The boot is almost touching the spring on one side. I could not get it to fit right - I tried for hours. Just wasn't meant to be.
I am going with Tokico’s until the real 5th Gen AGX comes out. Just not worth it the way it is now.
Brian
I am going with Tokico’s until the real 5th Gen AGX comes out. Just not worth it the way it is now.
Brian
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