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Why dont you guys dyno run the 1/4?

Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Why dont you guys dyno or run the 1/4?

Just curious as the car has been out for a little over 2 years and, even though I'm sure it's been done, but i'ts not documented whether any of you have dynoed or ran in the 1/4 as much as the other generations have and do.

I remember vaguely that the one dyno I saw the A34 putting down 220-230, if I remember correctly, with that said it would put you at a better standpoint as far as Nissan stock rating numbers go, as us in the 5.5g seem to have got jipped 10-15 hp, but got it all back in undocumented torque.

There are only 2 1/4 mile passes that I remember, one was jime, he rented the car and took it to the 1/4, and ran a 15.0 with an auto, think it was the 5spd, but could have been the 4spd.

And of coruse there's the 14.2-3 (can't remember if it was .2 or .3) but that was also in an auto, and I also can't remember who it was.

Never seen a 6 spd dyno or 1/4 mile pass time slip.

Seems like most of the new gen guys are more into looks/luxury rather than performance. I have nothing against that, just curious if any more of you guys are or have ran in the 1/4 or dynoed.

I've been to cardomain and seen a few 6th gen pages, and one of them was pretty heavily into modding, but no dyno or 1/4 time was posted, it's a red opulence, and you are a member here if you'r reading, just can't remember your name.

Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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I dunno man...I dont really push my car hard personally. Id like to know what a 6th gen could do with the interior gutted and a big turbo. People say a turbo is bad for a 5sp auto...but mercedes puts a 500hp motor to an auto. Theres a Vette that does 0-60 in 2. something seconds with an automatic too....I doubt these autos are built that much better than ours, because it seems some say that Any auto cant be used with a high Hp application.
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My dyno was posted last year with the Greddys and Stillen Intake.

217hp & 229TQ

Need to dyno again since I added the Unorthodox Racing Pulley...

There is only one higher dyno and he was running a CE Y pipe with exhaust and intake.

As for the 1/4 mile I was going to go but dont own a helmet - lol! Bought a GTech and plan on running the 1/4 on that. I dont care if its not as accurate as the real deal - it'll be close enough for me Gotta do it before I get the new rims though, cause I'm sure that will kill the times LOL.
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Not sure about your autos, but ours aren't as boost friendly or even stock friendly. MB makes their cars worth the price, meaning they make a good tranny, especially when amted to 500hp. There's a turbo out for the Altima and 5.5g, so I'm sure there would be minimal steps to be taken to fit it to a 6g.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
My dyno was posted last year with the Greddys and Stillen Intake.

217hp & 229TQ
Nice #'s.

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As for the 1/4 I was going to go but dont own a helmet - lol!
Not sure about where you're at, but helmets are only required for sub 14 second 1/4 mile passes around here..
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Maybe Ill wait till I can just afford an E55 and not risk ruining my maxima...Im happy with it, i drive a 140hp taurus before this.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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BTW, JiuJitsuThug are you auto or manual? I'm guessing manual ..
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I would love to go to the track... if my car is done by the time frame I think it is, I'll bring it to the NE track this summer.. as for Dyno runs, I don't know of any dyno my way I'll have to do some research..
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I took my whip out to the track last summer and made a few runs. This was before I put the y-pipe on . I ran a 14.89 with a dog slow reaction time of .733. If you take out the crappy R/T, we're talking low 14's. I'm planning on heading back to Pacific Raceways this summer to see if the y-pipe will make a difference. Oh yeah, my car is a 5 spd auto.
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All I know is the road test reccomendations I read before getting the car, saying the 5sp auto IS the way to do with this car, and the 6sp is superfluous. Performance gains arent that big, and I dont race my car anyway. But for those who love to shift, thats another story.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 04RedOpMax
I ran a 14.89 with a dog slow reaction time of .733. If you take out the crappy R/T, we're talking low 14's.
Sorry to burst your bubble but reaction time has nothing to do with your quarter mile time. You could sit at the tree for 3 seconds after green and still run the same time......The timer doesn't start until you roll out the beam. Reaction time is the time in which it takes you to start rolling once the light turns green. So there is no way your going to lower your e.t. through better reaction times. What was your 60ft. ? Lowering your 60 ft. will help.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 04RedOpMax
Islow reaction time of .733. If you take out the crappy R/T, we're talking low 14's. I'm planning on heading back to Pacific Raceways this summer to see if the y-pipe will make a difference. Oh yeah, my car is a 5 spd auto.
Reaction time (RT) has nothing to do with the actual time, as the starting lights do not start timing until you cross them, so basically you can have a 17 second RT, but a 13 second 1/4 mile, at least that's the way most tracks are.

Nice times though BTW.

Tek-Niq I think in the dyno secion there might be a list of local dynos, or it might of been in the track area listing tracks obviously, oh well, I'm sure there's one close to you as I live in a pretty rural area and there are at least three that I know of within an hour and half from me.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Beat me to it JonathanTL
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Why would anyone care what a Maxima will run in the quarter? That's not exactly what the car was produced for was it? Sounds to me like a some folks bought the right car for the wrong reasons, lol.

Give 'em a nice handling/riding family car with some above average HP and they wanna make a race car out of it.

The car does everything it was designed for very well... mods to personalize the look make perfect sense.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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So...lemme get this straight...reaction time is then only important when you are racing someone in the other lane...as to who will win the race.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Yeah id personally only go to a drag strip if I had big time mods liek turbos and had the thing gutted out and hot to go, to raise some eyebrows.
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JonathanTL
Sorry to burst your bubble but reaction time has nothing to do with your quarter mile time. You could sit at the tree for 3 seconds after green and still run the same time......The timer doesn't start until you roll out the beam. Reaction time is the time in which it takes you to start rolling once the light turns green. So there is no way your going to lower your e.t. through better reaction times. What was your 60ft. ? Lowering your 60 ft. will help.
My bad! I have never drag raced before, I was just going by what other people told me. I am sure that somebody who knew how to drive could get better times. I just put the transmission in manual and stood on it!
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Myself and a lot of my 3rd-5.5 gen peoples have a rare disease of modding family cars .. I see my shrink about it ... take a ride to the all motor forum or any other the other generation forums, oh yeah you migh already know but the fastest all motor has run a 12.8 .. Sorta quick for a family sedan
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I was looking through the 1/4 mile forum and saw a 6th Gen run mid 14s stock trapping at 95... I think it was an auto....
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I was looking through the 1/4 mile forum and saw a 6th Gen run mid 14s stock trapping at 95... I think it was an auto....

wasn't that andymax95?
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Considering the added weight, either the 5 spd tranny makes up for a lot, or the car is a lot more powerful than the claimed +10 over ther 5.5g .
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Considering the added weight, either the 5 spd tranny makes up for a lot, or the car is a lot more powerful than the claimed +10 over ther 5.5g .
auto to auto I would think so b/c we can keep it in manual and let it redline at every gear.
Others have speculated that 265 is a modest # by Nissan (3500lbs being a huge factor)

yes, it was Andy with the top 04 time.
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I always though the 6g had much more power than claimed. I wonder what it is then, the IM looks semi different, but not so much as to add 15-20 whp from looking at the above dyno. Maybe the dual exhaust

Typically autos with mods, not headers, dyno at about 200-210 hp. And the above dyno did not even have a y-pipe. Yeah just go ahead and overrate us 5.5 and underrate the 6g.
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ok, why dosent someone just pull out the motor and find out what the hp is at the flywheel?
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Umm, not really feasible by most peoples wallet size and needs/convenience .
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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I had mine dyno'd for CE. If you go to this link you can see the results. The first is completely stock. The second is after the Y pipe installation. I know most people don't believe dealer dyno's, but this was done by danbury dyno chasis, with me standing right there, and i paid for it, and i still have the originals that are exactly the same.
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The torque looks really low, but the hp is nice. Was it with a dynojet? You shouldn;t have had to pay for it since tehy're advertising it on theri site. I put down 235 tq with only headers, that's why I say that seems low, most 5.5g put anytwhere from 215-230 stock tq, but onyl about 195-200 hp. Almsot looks as if your #'s are opposite of ours in terms of hp/tq
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
The torque looks really low, but the hp is nice. Was it with a dynojet? You shouldn;t have had to pay for it since tehy're advertising it on theri site. I put down 235 tq with only headers, that's why I say that seems low, most 5.5g put anytwhere from 215-230 stock tq, but onyl about 195-200 hp. Almsot looks as if your #'s are opposite of ours in terms of hp/tq
Long story short, he got the pipe for free by being a tester. He paid for the dyno runs out of pocket to see the results, and they posted it as a "success story" on the CE site.

They called me about the pipe too, but they were looking for a manual tranny... otherwise I would have been all over that too...
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Originally Posted by viguera
Long story short, he got the pipe for free by being a tester.
Figures there was some sort of deal to it.

Seems like most dynos and 1/4 mile runs for the 6g have been mostly autos, but still yeild strong #'s.

The 6spd tranny also has a shorter final drive than the 5.5g, probably to help out the added weight ..., that coupled with them putting down more power means pretty damn fast car.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Figures there was some sort of deal to it.

Seems like most dynos and 1/4 mile runs for the 6g have been mostly autos, but still yeild strong #'s.

The 6spd tranny also has a shorter final drive than the 5.5g, probably to help out the added weight ..., that coupled with them putting down more power means pretty damn fast car.
Well I think the other thing is that there's only a handfull of mods out there, and after people see the results of a y-pipe or the Greedys/UDP/whatever, they pretty much know what to expect out of the car. There have been a couple of dyno runs posted here, so you know what you're getting out of your money.

But until you start seeing some serious mods for the 6th gen from a ton of companies (headers, forced induction, stuff like that), you probably won't see a whole lot of people running to the track. That's what I think anyway...

Now where's SSR with that damn supercharger?
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They just relaesed a turbo kit for the A33 Maxima, that is dervied from the Altima, from whcih your 6g chassis is built on.

A lot of the 5.5 genners do custom work, as the headers are the units mde for the 4g, and but with a few customizations fit nicely on the 3.5 and then there's the secret manifold deal, a lot of custom work on our 4-5.5 arena. Such as retrofitting a 2k Manifold on the 4g, now we're starting to see people swap the 3.5 into the 4th gen.
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Where you been RedOP? Haven't seen a post from you in a loooong time.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
They just relaesed a turbo kit for the A33 Maxima, that is rervied from the Altima, from whcih your 6g chassis is built on.
Yeah, but I don't have to remind you how long it took them...

My HOPE is that they'll have a turbo/SC for the 6th gen by the end of the year... my GUESS is that it's gonna be a while. If any enterprising soul here would try and get that A33 turbo kit to fit into the 04-05s somehow (without blowing it up), there'd be money in there for them... of that I'm sure.

Originally Posted by NmexMAX
A lot of the 5.5 genners do custom work, as the headers are the units mde for the 4g, and but with a few customizations fit nicely on the 3.5 and then there's the secret manifold deal, a lot of custom work on our 4-5.5 arena. Such as retrofitting a 2k Manifold on the 4g, now we're starting to see people swap the 3.5 into the 4th gen.
I think it just takes time... you don't drop $30k and start modding a car HARD until you're almost to the end of the warranty, just in case... But yeah, I'm hoping that as the 6th gen becomes more and more widely adopted, we'll see a lot of custom work from the enthusiast crowd... stuff that will trickle down to those of us that are not too mechanically inclined but would still like to mod the hell out of the car...
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you said the torque is low (193), but that is at 6000RPM where the HP peaks. the Tq peak is about 202lbs/ft.
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That is true too, too a bit of a while, but it's quality stuff.

What seems to be the deal is that the price of the Maxima went up in 04, which may have attracted a different crowd all together.

It took us 5 genners almost 5 years to find out that the 2k manifold fit 95-99 with a little modification.

Truth be knows, those 6gs have a lot of potential.

Also with a little work the Alti/Max 3.5 turbo will probably go in w/o too much hassle.

Me myself am an all motor junkie, and all VQ3.5 people have cams available for us.
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Still torque is low for even when compared to a 5.5g. Are those SAE corrected? Was it on a dynojet? Do they, you or anyone have the run files if it was on a dynojet?

220.487 hp @ 6k RPM. Nice. Our power dropes off a bit after about 5.5-5.7
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Where you been RedOP? Haven't seen a post from you in a loooong time.
I've been around, just quietly "lurking". I am currently working on a couple of custom "cosmetic" mods that I think are gonna be pretty cool. Will post pix when I'm done.
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Have to say RedOpMax, I like your car A Lot, and I;m not, or was not a fan of the 6g body style..
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Was it on a dynojet?
What are my other choices? I really don't know what it was. All i know is this put my car on a lift, 2 front wheels on the rolly thing and let it lose. Yeah i know i'm technical with that explination. But i have no clue what a dynojet is compared to something else.
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From the looks of it odds are it was a dynojet because of the #'s, there are different devices such that give lower readings than the dynojet model 248c, even within dynojet there are differnt models, but this is the more common one, there are otehr brands as well, such as a Mustang dyno which use differnt data aquistion techniques taht's also related to the different dynamics of the system. Dynojet is essentially the norm for us here on this forum.


Always want to emilinate any room for error/deviation so it's as near a comparison as possible.

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