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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Dyno done on dynojet while in Florida

http://www.jrdesigns2003.com/warrendyno.pdf

http://www.jrdesigns2003.com/warrendyno2.pdf

http://www.jrdesigns2003.com/warrendyno3.pdf

I had to do pdf because of my granddaughters PC down here in Florida. I promised to a few people that I would do it on a dynojet. These are the results. I was told these were good numbers despite the heat. It was hot as hell down here when I had it done. I will have a new dyno done in Oct. in NYC when the temp. is cooler. This is a question for the members. If the whp is 221 what is the hp at the crank? Thanks in advance Warren
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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I think is around 271hp Warren..
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
I think is around 271hp Warren..
So I guess that's assuming an 18.5% drivetrain loss... is that what the 6th Gen ATs are seeing? Seems low to me... I woulda thought it'd have been around 20-22%.

221 x 1/(1-.185) = 271
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Looks good Warren!! It does look like it was pretty hot during the Dyno, the readout says 100+ degrees as the temperature. Gotta love Florida! Anyway, way to go! PEACE
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
So I guess that's assuming an 18.5% drivetrain loss... is that what the 6th Gen ATs are seeing? Seems low to me... I woulda thought it'd have been around 20-22%.

221 x 1/(1-.185) = 271
I did it with 23% loss....


221x 18%= 260............. 221x 23%= 271
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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your math is wrong. crank would be around 290 b/c 287 - 23% = 219.99

you have to take the 23% off the crank not add 23% to the wheels.

Warren, you should post your mods so people know this insn't stock.
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
your math is wrong. crank would be around 290 b/c 287 - 23% = 219.99

you have to take the 23% off the crank not add 23% to the wheels.

Warren, you should post your mods so people know this insn't stock.
ah I see.... I did add the 23% to the 221hp, and you can't do it like that..

so it is about 288hp at the crank Warren.... my math was way off...
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
your math is wrong. crank would be around 290 b/c 287 - 23% = 219.99

you have to take the 23% off the crank not add 23% to the wheels.

Warren, you should post your mods so people know this insn't stock.
Ok for the members who don't know what my mods are.

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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
I did it with 23% loss....

221x 18%= 260............. 221x 23%= 271
Wait a sec... drivetrain loss is applied to the crank hp isn't it? So you'd take the crank hp number and apply the percentage loss. For example, a stock 6th Gen is advertised at 265, so you'd do:

265 x (100% - 23%) = 204 whp

Working back the other way:

204 / (100% - 23%) = 265 chp

So in Warren's case:

221 / (100% - 23%) = 287 chp
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Do you by any chance have the real dynojet run files?


Also, I noticed you only reved to 6200.
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Okay... I didn't see that NismoMax already responded... haha... the F5 key owns me....
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whats a "warren" mod?

nice numbers for the weather. Is this on stock wheels?
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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wow our numbers look really close. what gear did you do your pulls in. specifically what gear were you in when you pulled a 253 torque?
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He has the 5AT, which IIRC noone has the calculated loss figure for (IE, nissan has not released that info yet). I suspect, however it should be just about the same as the 4at.

and the correct way to derive crank #s from wheel #s is to divide by 1-%loss...so 207/.77 = 268.83chp
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Wait a sec... drivetrain loss is applied to the crank hp isn't it? So you'd take the crank hp number and apply the percentage loss. For example, a stock 6th Gen is advertised at 265, so you'd do:

265 x (100% - 23%) = 204 whp

Working back the other way:

204 / (100% - 23%) = 265 chp

So in Warren's case:

221 / (100% - 23%) = 287 chp
yea, you kinda have to figure out the crank hp, then minus the 23% from that to get the 221 wheel hp...

the math has to equal 221... so its 288- 23%= 221hp..
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Originally Posted by Larrio
whats a "warren" mod?

thats G14 classified.we cant tell you.
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PS: warren, can you email me the runfiles e55amg2@gmail.com
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
whats a "warren" mod?

nice numbers for the weather. Is this on stock wheels?
Thats me stepping on the gas pedal. lol


18" crome wheels.
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
yea, you kinda have to figure out the crank hp, then minus the 23% from that to get the 221 wheel hp...

the math has to equal 221... so its 288- 23%= 221hp..
287/.77 is the correct way
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my algebra is rusty so that's how I did it Tek. I tried the right way how E55 just showed and gave up when my head started to hurt

221/.77=287

So if we get a 5AT dynoed and it's close to oem spec #s then with his above mods he gained 22 hp crank.

I so wished the RedlineMax meet would of had a dyno like originally planned. but w/ 130 maximas, we would have been there all weekend.
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
287/.77 is the correct way
then what is the Max power = 219.xx??

and on the graph 221 is written?

I'd get mine dynoed, but I'm awaiting my JDM nismo hood banner from Japan. It adds 35 to the wheels!
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
my algebra is rusty so that's how I did it Tek. I tried the right way how E55 just showed and gave up when my head started to hurt

221/.77=287

So if we get a 5AT dynoed and it's close to oem spec #s then with his above mods he gained 22 hp crank.

I so wished the RedlineMax meet would of had a dyno like originally planned. but w/ 130 maximas, we would have been there all weekend.
you think the headers will put us over 300 motor hp, not crank..
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
then what is the Max power = 219.xx??

and on the graph 221 is written?

I'd get mine dynoed, but I'm awaiting my JDM nismo hood banner from Japan. It adds 35 to the wheels!

bah, i mistyped it should have read

WHP -> CHP = 221/.77
CHP -> WHP = XXX *1-drivetrain loss %
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
287/.77 is the correct way
Wait, did you mean 287 x .77?
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Wait, did you mean 287 x .77?

Yes....but i managed to type it wrong.
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
bah, i mistyped it should have read

WHP -> CHP = 221/.77
CHP -> WHP = XXX *1-drivetrain loss %
Gotcha... so my post was right...
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ok, now I have a headache........
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
you think the headers will put us over 300 motor hp, not crank..
what do you mean motor hp
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Gotcha... so my post was right...
yes, and we have managed to give tek-niq a headache in the process...Id say we have accomplished our mission
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Originally Posted by maxmale
what do you mean motor hp
without all the losses... I guess that would be crank right.... I'm all f-up


thats why I make my car look good instead of making it fast....
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I threw my caculator into the woods behind my house so all I'll say is, Looks good, Thanks Warren for doing this for us...
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I threw my caculator into the woods behind my house so all I'll say is, Looks good, Thanks Warren for doing this for us...

LOL, did the calculator anger you?
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LOL, did the calculator anger you?
No, these dudes where posting numbers back and forth so fast, I deemed it useless and tossed it...
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Good numbers Warren - thanks for getting the dynojet done
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Yeah, thanx Warren! My car has the same mods yours does, so I would expect similar numbers.
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Well done mate , looks good to me .. what fuel were you running ?

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I want to thank you guys for your comments and the answer to my question. I was running 93 octane.
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
without all the losses... I guess that would be crank right.... I'm all f-up

well if all goes according to plan and fixes my screwed up a/f ratio like i think it will then i should be close to 300 crank horses.
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[QUOTE=SR20DEN]Do you by any chance have the real dynojet run files?
The above are the slips that the tech gave me. So I don't know what you are talking about.


Also, I noticed you only reved to 6200

I quess the tech didn't want to run it higher because of the weather.



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