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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Good damn nissan. First its a heated seat thing and now my car is gonna rot like a 67 chevy
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Got my letter several weeks ago, and, like chernmax, got the sticker.

I didn't bother to post immediately because I consider this to be a virtual 'non-event'.

For those cars on which the parts actually need replacing, this will require a nice block of time by the dealer's service department. Those suggesting Nissan automatically replace these parts on all covered vehicles are not thinking straight. There is no way the dealers could find the time to actually replace these parts on hundreds of thousands of vehicles.

Why would anyone have the slightest concern or worry about this? Think about it:

1. - Nissan dealers have been informed what to look for when doing regular service.
2. - All Owners are being informed by letter. 400,000 letters do not all get processed and mailed at the same time. This will take a month or so.
3. - Should replacement parts be necessary, Nissan has parts that do not have the problem.
4. - No effect on driving or safety.
5. - Should it actually happen, it is at Nissan's expense for the next thirteen (13!) years.

The unfixable TL tranny problem is an example of something for owners to sweat. The Nissan undercarriage situation is not.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Received my initial letter yesterday.

Have my 13 year Sticker and will wait for "my turn" letter.

Like stated, even if replacement is needed, it is still safe to drive. Listen for knocking in the rear. If any tech under your car notices problems there, contact your dealer. Otherwise, wait your turn.

Even the recent $$$$$$ Ford GT had a frame defect. Now they went to everyone's home to fix it, but Ford also got $$$$$$$$ for a limited run of cars.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
Got my letter several weeks ago, and, like chernmax, got the sticker.

I didn't bother to post immediately because I consider this to be a virtual 'non-event'.

For those cars on which the parts actually need replacing, this will require a nice block of time by the dealer's service department. Those suggesting Nissan automatically replace these parts on all covered vehicles are not thinking straight. There is no way the dealers could find the time to actually replace these parts on hundreds of thousands of vehicles.

Why would anyone have the slightest concern or worry about this? Think about it:

1. - Nissan dealers have been informed what to look for when doing regular service.
2. - All Owners are being informed by letter. 400,000 letters do not all get processed and mailed at the same time. This will take a month or so.
3. - Should replacement parts be necessary, Nissan has parts that do not have the problem.
4. - No effect on driving or safety.
5. - Should it actually happen, it is at Nissan's expense for the next thirteen (13!) years.

The unfixable TL tranny problem is an example of something for owners to sweat. The Nissan undercarriage situation is not.
Thanks for putting into words exactly what I was thinking, people CHILL...
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
Received my initial letter yesterday.

Have my 13 year Sticker and will wait for "my turn" letter.

Like stated, even if replacement is needed, it is still safe to drive. Listen for knocking in the rear. If any tech under your car notices problems there, contact your dealer. Otherwise, wait your turn.

Even the recent $$$$$$ Ford GT had a frame defect. Now they went to everyone's home to fix it, but Ford also got $$$$$$$$ for a limited run of cars.
I knew from the start, you got it...
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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My first post here on the board. I picked up an 04 SL w/24k miles last week. I'm the Used Car Manager at a Toyota/Lexus dealership and have always thought these cars represent great value on the used market. I sent it down to the local Nissan dealership with a rattle in the front and they put in a new strut, and a beautiful new subframe that looked to have tons of aluminum parts. So no worries about the car as an alignment was done. This is in Southern Ontario where tons of salt is dropped.
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Also just wanted to chime in and say I recived mine in the mail last week, a little behind the rest of you.
Old Jan 25, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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anyone know exactly what the subframe member is? should i be excited knowing i have an 04 and it has to be replaced,(not just the bushing) am i getting new suspension components?
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Maxima Rear end `Recall' and Dealer `Help' PLEASE

Hey all,

Just registered so no crap from Sticky please! Dealer informed me of voluntary recall to replace rear end sub frame.... Fine....BUT also said sometime the alignment goes off and I should pay $100 for an alignment! JC they are redoing the rear end and want me to pay....give your head a shake! Any experience of others getting this job done and alignment `costs' and how they resolve would be appreciated!

BYW - also doing the `lumber support' recall. Although they did NOT mention the risk of fire `minor' issue!! Thanks all!

I'm in Toronto Canada if that helps anyone out there!
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Figured this out - Thanks and Sorry

Printed the recall notice (US version anyhow) and it clearly states that the techie is to do a Rear wheel alignment!. Can't wait to show the dealer this!
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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So I haven't been scheduled yet, but I ran across thishttp://nissanhelp.com/Ownership/Bull.../NTB06-018.htm and now I am really worried. This TSB is really serious. For those of you who had the subframe replaced do you know if this happened? I am going to hold back on my comments, but what does everyone else think?
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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I had no idea it was so extensive. Uhh, maybe I'll have to trade my 04 Max in on one that hasn't gone under major frame surgery. ****!!!!
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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I knew I didn't take her in yet for a reason. way to keep us informed msoemax.
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Damn. Thats alot of work. Didn't they extend that part of the warranty to 13 years?
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Now that's a tsb! Did you all take a look at the second page? Can you imagine being the mechanic performing the recall and you break the bolt that holds the rear suspension member and now you have to perform this tsb.

Originally Posted by ramberg
Damn. Thats alot of work. Didn't they extend that part of the warranty to 13 years?
ramberg,
If I understand this correctly, the recall is for rear suspension member replacement and that has the 13 year warranty. The other one is a tsb and don’t they fall under basic vehicle warranty?
Old Mar 24, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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alignment

I had the seat wiring replaced on Wednesday. I just scheduled the subframe assembly repair for April 3. They only do one subframe per day. My RSB should be in before then and will save myself some work and negotiate to have the stealership install it. I too was concerned about rear alignment. Thanks for the note. I printed the doc and will show it to the dealer.

Old Mar 24, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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After looking at all those TSB's for our MAX's, it makes you think. Was Nissan trying to save a buck and rushed the car out of production? They want this car to compete with the TL but you don't hear to much about them having all these recalls. Might explain why I got mines for $27500 last FEB.
Old Mar 24, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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MIKEDINERO - You must not own a TL.

My son has owned a TL Type 'S' almost two years, and, although he drives very carefully (always has his now 3 year old daughter with him), he has gone through three trannys, and Acura's extended warranty (resulting from thousands of TL tranny problems) does not cover his VIN number. Compare that service with what Nissan is doing for us Maxima owners.

He has wasted many hours on the phone with Acura folks, to no avail. He loved his car, but now is afraid to keep it. It has lowered the quality of his life over the last two years.

He has always 'poo-pooed' my Maximas (I've owned nothing else for over twenty years), but last week, he test-drove an '06 SE.

So please don't bring that TL garbage here. I know better.
Old Mar 24, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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[QUOTE=lightonthehill]

Wouldn't those tranny problems be covered by the lemon law.

I would say all makes of cars have problems, some more than others. I am surprised by Acura. I brought a Integra in 1987 and had it for 13 years and had no major problems.
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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I bouht my '06 Max in the last day of November 2005. I have never received a letter regarding the rust problem nor the heated seats issue. I brought the car to two dealerships regarding the heated seats -- both have said there is no problem despite the fact hey do not really work.

So my questions are:
What can I do about the heated seats issue?

Am I coverd by the 13 year warrenty even though I have not received a letter to indicate this?

Thanks
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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As for the heated seat issue, look through the other threads. Some say they take too long to heat up, other might have too many clothes on to feel much heat. Remember the recall states "...some 2004-2006 model year..." so your ride might not be on the list. Check your vin:

http://www.nissanhelp.com/Ownership/.../NTB05-116.htm

Back on the topic of this thread - - rear subframe recall. Again your ride is an '06 and this is a very extensive recall that can not be done over night for all vehicles (including '02-'05 Altimas and '04-'05 Maximas). Currently Nissan has not added the '06 Maxima to the recall list so no surprise you didn't get a letter. Two different dealers tell you there is not an issue, they might be correct. If you are still concerned, call 1-800-NISSAN-1 see if they can help, and have your vin ready.
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyedPanther
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So my questions are:
What can I do about the heated seats issue?

Am I coverd by the 13 year warrenty even though I have not received a letter to indicate this?

Thanks
The best way to find out is call the nissan 800 number and have your vin number ready. They will let you know.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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The best way to find out is call the nissan 800 number and have your vin number ready. They will let you know.
Thanks -- I will do that.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOO HELLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!


**** THAT SHIZT!!!!


I have my recall schedulled for May 1st. But it looks like I aint doin it. I would rather rust check my car every year until it dies then have friggin parts welded back on to her. !!!
HELL NO NO NO

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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Just had my subframe recall done april 3. The dealer had told me they do only one per day. I felt safe that the mechanics had enough practice. Note: I havent driven my 05 much in road salt (N.Virginia). Probably made it easier.

Drove about 1600 miles a few days later (including 500 miles of canyon run ). No difference in handling. Installed my RSB and rear SS brake lines this week-end. Could barely tell they did any work except for some thin shims under 'member stopper' of subframe.

If they break those studs and need to do welding, you are not getting the same car back. But, IMO, the longer you wait, the more corrosion the studs will have, and the higher the risk of breakage.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Am I on the list?

How do I know if I am on the recall list. The reason I ask is because I recently purchased a used Maxima and have been reading the FAQs and recalls. Should I contact the local Nissan dealership and trust them on what they say or does Nissan itself have a master list?
Thanks xoxo
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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pic up a phone
call Nissan

if you "recently" purchased, it may take some time to get your info processed. none of the recalls are serious safety issues.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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got my subframe done today. Mechanic claimed an extra hour on his job sheet for "extreme corrosion"

i did not have to pay .. covered by warranty/recall ... (am 500 KM from my warranty expiring, had my grill replaced again for peeling..)

drove car for abt 40 Km and it feels like new!! (maybe in my mind). but I believe he has done a good job.... reallignment all done ....
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Had Rear End Done !! 04 Sl ...

It is worth the swapout .. The car rides SOOOO much better !!

John ..
Old Apr 30, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jsuggs
It is worth the swapout .. The car rides SOOOO much better !!

John ..
Fak, gonna go drop her off in a minute. I'm starting to hate this car! Went on a trip to Montreal, it shook the whole way there (after just getting a balancing). After the last TSB (the seat switch) the frigging seat shifts everytime I take a turn. They have look at it 4 times and still cant find WTF is wrong with the seat..... i bet i take her in to get the subframe re-done and it will fall apart as soon as they hoist her up in the air.

O well that happens time to bust out the lawyers.

Kam
Old May 4, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Ok, so it seems that the TSB that applies to the recall is absolutely the worst case scenario. I took the car in today and things went off with out a hitch. That makes me feel good. Speaking with one of the service guys I was informed it's a combination of the bushings and frame. As the recall states...the 05's get new bushings only while the 04's get a new frame and bushing. Who ever makes the subframe for Nissan messed up. My guess is that the aluminum wasn't properly heat treated. Not to mention that the bushings wear too easily especially when subject to salty conditions. The front bushings are less thick than the rear bushings. This is where the wear happens first. It's too early to tell if everything will hold up...wait till winter and salt i guess.

It could be purely in my head, but the car feels a little stiffer and more responsive, but I did get a kia as a loaner so the butt dyno was happy to be back in the max. The rear of the car did seem to be stiffer on acceleration.

So for all of you who were scared like me...more than likely it will go smooth. I hope this helps you guys out.
Old May 4, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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I took mine in here and they said that they only do it if the bushings are cracked. Otherwise they just replaced the bushings and that's it. They said I had no rust or corrosion. Is this correct? Ny the way, my car was making a creaking sound that just started this winter and I hardly drive it in winter as we have two cars. The creeking sound occured when ever I drove over a big bump in the road or a speed bump at a certain speed.
Old May 5, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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The creaking sound you describe sounds like your front struts are going. Check the stickies for more info on that topic.
Old May 5, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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I just got off the phone with my dealer and they said it is not an inspection, but a complete replacement. They are waiting on parts which he said were on national backorder. It's going in next Friday for the lumbar switch and to have the exhaust bracket replaced, again. Maybe they'll have all the parts by then.
Old May 22, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Got my letter to have the recall done. I am scheduled to have the complete subframe replacement on June 8th. They will also do my cracked windshield replacement at the same time. My poor Max will be sore from all of the surgery it will undergo that day.
Old May 22, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by andymax95
Good damn nissan. First its a heated seat thing and now my car is gonna rot like a 67 chevy
Heh. i hope it does as well as my old chevy in the paint department.

http://www.shonetonline.com/joesss/index.htm

37 years strong
Old May 23, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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I'm scheduled for mine tomorrow morning. Geez, I didn't know it was this serious.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Just a head's up for those who haven't had the subframe recall done yet (or even those who have). I had mine done last month. About 2 or so weeks after having it done (at a dealership who said they do the most of these recalls of any other dealer in the area), it sounded like the whole back end of my car was falling off when I went over any uneven pavement or bump. I took it back in and it was the bolts they used for the subframe replacement weren't torqued properly (or tight enough?) and they needed re-torqued. Just and FYI in case it happens to you.

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by missjane
Just a head's up for those who haven't had the subframe recall done yet (or even those who have). I had mine done last month. About 2 or so weeks after having it done (at a dealership who said they do the most of these recalls of any other dealer in the area), it sounded like the whole back end of my car was falling off when I went over any uneven pavement or bump. I took it back in and it was the bolts they used for the subframe replacement weren't torqued properly (or tight enough?) and they needed re-torqued. Just and FYI in case it happens to you.

Jane
Good lookin out.....................................
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Aug 3 was the soonest I could get in. You can bet I'm keeping that appointment.



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