Letter from Nissan: Rear subframe recall
Got my letter several weeks ago, and, like chernmax, got the sticker.
I didn't bother to post immediately because I consider this to be a virtual 'non-event'.
For those cars on which the parts actually need replacing, this will require a nice block of time by the dealer's service department. Those suggesting Nissan automatically replace these parts on all covered vehicles are not thinking straight. There is no way the dealers could find the time to actually replace these parts on hundreds of thousands of vehicles.
Why would anyone have the slightest concern or worry about this? Think about it:
1. - Nissan dealers have been informed what to look for when doing regular service.
2. - All Owners are being informed by letter. 400,000 letters do not all get processed and mailed at the same time. This will take a month or so.
3. - Should replacement parts be necessary, Nissan has parts that do not have the problem.
4. - No effect on driving or safety.
5. - Should it actually happen, it is at Nissan's expense for the next thirteen (13!) years.
The unfixable TL tranny problem is an example of something for owners to sweat. The Nissan undercarriage situation is not.
I didn't bother to post immediately because I consider this to be a virtual 'non-event'.
For those cars on which the parts actually need replacing, this will require a nice block of time by the dealer's service department. Those suggesting Nissan automatically replace these parts on all covered vehicles are not thinking straight. There is no way the dealers could find the time to actually replace these parts on hundreds of thousands of vehicles.
Why would anyone have the slightest concern or worry about this? Think about it:
1. - Nissan dealers have been informed what to look for when doing regular service.
2. - All Owners are being informed by letter. 400,000 letters do not all get processed and mailed at the same time. This will take a month or so.
3. - Should replacement parts be necessary, Nissan has parts that do not have the problem.
4. - No effect on driving or safety.
5. - Should it actually happen, it is at Nissan's expense for the next thirteen (13!) years.
The unfixable TL tranny problem is an example of something for owners to sweat. The Nissan undercarriage situation is not.
Received my initial letter yesterday.
Have my 13 year Sticker and will wait for "my turn" letter.
Like stated, even if replacement is needed, it is still safe to drive. Listen for knocking in the rear. If any tech under your car notices problems there, contact your dealer. Otherwise, wait your turn.
Even the recent $$$$$$ Ford GT had a frame defect. Now they went to everyone's home to fix it, but Ford also got $$$$$$$$ for a limited run of cars.
Have my 13 year Sticker and will wait for "my turn" letter.
Like stated, even if replacement is needed, it is still safe to drive. Listen for knocking in the rear. If any tech under your car notices problems there, contact your dealer. Otherwise, wait your turn.
Even the recent $$$$$$ Ford GT had a frame defect. Now they went to everyone's home to fix it, but Ford also got $$$$$$$$ for a limited run of cars.
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
Got my letter several weeks ago, and, like chernmax, got the sticker.
I didn't bother to post immediately because I consider this to be a virtual 'non-event'.
For those cars on which the parts actually need replacing, this will require a nice block of time by the dealer's service department. Those suggesting Nissan automatically replace these parts on all covered vehicles are not thinking straight. There is no way the dealers could find the time to actually replace these parts on hundreds of thousands of vehicles.
Why would anyone have the slightest concern or worry about this? Think about it:
1. - Nissan dealers have been informed what to look for when doing regular service.
2. - All Owners are being informed by letter. 400,000 letters do not all get processed and mailed at the same time. This will take a month or so.
3. - Should replacement parts be necessary, Nissan has parts that do not have the problem.
4. - No effect on driving or safety.
5. - Should it actually happen, it is at Nissan's expense for the next thirteen (13!) years.
The unfixable TL tranny problem is an example of something for owners to sweat. The Nissan undercarriage situation is not.
I didn't bother to post immediately because I consider this to be a virtual 'non-event'.
For those cars on which the parts actually need replacing, this will require a nice block of time by the dealer's service department. Those suggesting Nissan automatically replace these parts on all covered vehicles are not thinking straight. There is no way the dealers could find the time to actually replace these parts on hundreds of thousands of vehicles.
Why would anyone have the slightest concern or worry about this? Think about it:
1. - Nissan dealers have been informed what to look for when doing regular service.
2. - All Owners are being informed by letter. 400,000 letters do not all get processed and mailed at the same time. This will take a month or so.
3. - Should replacement parts be necessary, Nissan has parts that do not have the problem.
4. - No effect on driving or safety.
5. - Should it actually happen, it is at Nissan's expense for the next thirteen (13!) years.
The unfixable TL tranny problem is an example of something for owners to sweat. The Nissan undercarriage situation is not.
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by NismoMax80
Received my initial letter yesterday.
Have my 13 year Sticker and will wait for "my turn" letter.
Like stated, even if replacement is needed, it is still safe to drive. Listen for knocking in the rear. If any tech under your car notices problems there, contact your dealer. Otherwise, wait your turn.
Even the recent $$$$$$ Ford GT had a frame defect. Now they went to everyone's home to fix it, but Ford also got $$$$$$$$ for a limited run of cars.
Have my 13 year Sticker and will wait for "my turn" letter.
Like stated, even if replacement is needed, it is still safe to drive. Listen for knocking in the rear. If any tech under your car notices problems there, contact your dealer. Otherwise, wait your turn.
Even the recent $$$$$$ Ford GT had a frame defect. Now they went to everyone's home to fix it, but Ford also got $$$$$$$$ for a limited run of cars.
My first post here on the board. I picked up an 04 SL w/24k miles last week. I'm the Used Car Manager at a Toyota/Lexus dealership and have always thought these cars represent great value on the used market. I sent it down to the local Nissan dealership with a rattle in the front and they put in a new strut, and a beautiful new subframe that looked to have tons of aluminum parts. So no worries about the car as an alignment was done. This is in Southern Ontario where tons of salt is dropped.
Maxima Rear end `Recall' and Dealer `Help' PLEASE
Hey all,
Just registered so no crap from Sticky please! Dealer informed me of voluntary recall to replace rear end sub frame.... Fine....BUT also said sometime the alignment goes off and I should pay $100 for an alignment! JC they are redoing the rear end and want me to pay....give your head a shake! Any experience of others getting this job done and alignment `costs' and how they resolve would be appreciated!
BYW - also doing the `lumber support' recall. Although they did NOT mention the risk of fire `minor' issue!! Thanks all!
I'm in Toronto Canada if that helps anyone out there!
Just registered so no crap from Sticky please! Dealer informed me of voluntary recall to replace rear end sub frame.... Fine....BUT also said sometime the alignment goes off and I should pay $100 for an alignment! JC they are redoing the rear end and want me to pay....give your head a shake! Any experience of others getting this job done and alignment `costs' and how they resolve would be appreciated!
BYW - also doing the `lumber support' recall. Although they did NOT mention the risk of fire `minor' issue!! Thanks all!
I'm in Toronto Canada if that helps anyone out there!
So I haven't been scheduled yet, but I ran across thishttp://nissanhelp.com/Ownership/Bull.../NTB06-018.htm and now I am really worried. This TSB is really serious. For those of you who had the subframe replaced do you know if this happened? I am going to hold back on my comments, but what does everyone else think?
Now that's a tsb! Did you all take a look at the second page? Can you imagine being the mechanic performing the recall and you break the bolt that holds the rear suspension member
and now you have to perform this tsb.

ramberg,
If I understand this correctly, the recall is for rear suspension member replacement and that has the 13 year warranty. The other one is a tsb and don’t they fall under basic vehicle warranty?
and now you have to perform this tsb.

Originally Posted by ramberg
Damn. Thats alot of work. Didn't they extend that part of the warranty to 13 years?
If I understand this correctly, the recall is for rear suspension member replacement and that has the 13 year warranty. The other one is a tsb and don’t they fall under basic vehicle warranty?
alignment
I had the seat wiring replaced on Wednesday. I just scheduled the subframe assembly repair for April 3. They only do one subframe per day. My RSB should be in before then and will save myself some work and negotiate to have the stealership install it. I too was concerned about rear alignment. Thanks for the note. I printed the doc and will show it to the dealer.
After looking at all those TSB's for our MAX's, it makes you think. Was Nissan trying to save a buck and rushed the car out of production? They want this car to compete with the TL but you don't hear to much about them having all these recalls. Might explain why I got mines for $27500 last FEB.
MIKEDINERO - You must not own a TL.
My son has owned a TL Type 'S' almost two years, and, although he drives very carefully (always has his now 3 year old daughter with him), he has gone through three trannys, and Acura's extended warranty (resulting from thousands of TL tranny problems) does not cover his VIN number. Compare that service with what Nissan is doing for us Maxima owners.
He has wasted many hours on the phone with Acura folks, to no avail. He loved his car, but now is afraid to keep it. It has lowered the quality of his life over the last two years.
He has always 'poo-pooed' my Maximas (I've owned nothing else for over twenty years), but last week, he test-drove an '06 SE.
So please don't bring that TL garbage here. I know better.
My son has owned a TL Type 'S' almost two years, and, although he drives very carefully (always has his now 3 year old daughter with him), he has gone through three trannys, and Acura's extended warranty (resulting from thousands of TL tranny problems) does not cover his VIN number. Compare that service with what Nissan is doing for us Maxima owners.
He has wasted many hours on the phone with Acura folks, to no avail. He loved his car, but now is afraid to keep it. It has lowered the quality of his life over the last two years.
He has always 'poo-pooed' my Maximas (I've owned nothing else for over twenty years), but last week, he test-drove an '06 SE.
So please don't bring that TL garbage here. I know better.
[QUOTE=lightonthehill]
Wouldn't those tranny problems be covered by the lemon law.
I would say all makes of cars have problems, some more than others. I am surprised by Acura. I brought a Integra in 1987 and had it for 13 years and had no major problems.
Wouldn't those tranny problems be covered by the lemon law.
I would say all makes of cars have problems, some more than others. I am surprised by Acura. I brought a Integra in 1987 and had it for 13 years and had no major problems.
I bouht my '06 Max in the last day of November 2005. I have never received a letter regarding the rust problem nor the heated seats issue. I brought the car to two dealerships regarding the heated seats -- both have said there is no problem despite the fact hey do not really work.
So my questions are:
What can I do about the heated seats issue?
Am I coverd by the 13 year warrenty even though I have not received a letter to indicate this?
Thanks
So my questions are:
What can I do about the heated seats issue?
Am I coverd by the 13 year warrenty even though I have not received a letter to indicate this?
Thanks
As for the heated seat issue, look through the other threads. Some say they take too long to heat up, other might have too many clothes on to feel much heat. Remember the recall states "...some 2004-2006 model year..." so your ride might not be on the list. Check your vin:
http://www.nissanhelp.com/Ownership/.../NTB05-116.htm
Back on the topic of this thread - - rear subframe recall. Again your ride is an '06 and this is a very extensive recall that can not be done over night for all vehicles (including '02-'05 Altimas and '04-'05 Maximas). Currently Nissan has not added the '06 Maxima to the recall list so no surprise you didn't get a letter. Two different dealers tell you there is not an issue, they might be correct. If you are still concerned, call 1-800-NISSAN-1 see if they can help, and have your vin ready.
http://www.nissanhelp.com/Ownership/.../NTB05-116.htm
Back on the topic of this thread - - rear subframe recall. Again your ride is an '06 and this is a very extensive recall that can not be done over night for all vehicles (including '02-'05 Altimas and '04-'05 Maximas). Currently Nissan has not added the '06 Maxima to the recall list so no surprise you didn't get a letter. Two different dealers tell you there is not an issue, they might be correct. If you are still concerned, call 1-800-NISSAN-1 see if they can help, and have your vin ready.
Originally Posted by BlueEyedPanther
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So my questions are:
What can I do about the heated seats issue?
Am I coverd by the 13 year warrenty even though I have not received a letter to indicate this?
Thanks
So my questions are:
What can I do about the heated seats issue?
Am I coverd by the 13 year warrenty even though I have not received a letter to indicate this?
Thanks
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO HELLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
**** THAT SHIZT!!!!
I have my recall schedulled for May 1st. But it looks like I aint doin it. I would rather rust check my car every year until it dies then have friggin parts welded back on to her. !!!
HELL NO NO NO
Kam
**** THAT SHIZT!!!!
I have my recall schedulled for May 1st. But it looks like I aint doin it. I would rather rust check my car every year until it dies then have friggin parts welded back on to her. !!!
HELL NO NO NO
Kam
Just had my subframe recall done april 3. The dealer had told me they do only one per day. I felt safe that the mechanics had enough practice. Note: I havent driven my 05 much in road salt (N.Virginia). Probably made it easier.
Drove about 1600 miles a few days later (including 500 miles of canyon run
). No difference in handling. Installed my RSB and rear SS brake lines this week-end. Could barely tell they did any work except for some thin shims under 'member stopper' of subframe.
If they break those studs and need to do welding, you are not getting the same car back. But, IMO, the longer you wait, the more corrosion the studs will have, and the higher the risk of breakage.
Drove about 1600 miles a few days later (including 500 miles of canyon run
). No difference in handling. Installed my RSB and rear SS brake lines this week-end. Could barely tell they did any work except for some thin shims under 'member stopper' of subframe. If they break those studs and need to do welding, you are not getting the same car back. But, IMO, the longer you wait, the more corrosion the studs will have, and the higher the risk of breakage.
Am I on the list?
How do I know if I am on the recall list. The reason I ask is because I recently purchased a used Maxima and have been reading the FAQs and recalls. Should I contact the local Nissan dealership and trust them on what they say or does Nissan itself have a master list?
Thanks xoxo
Thanks xoxo
got my subframe done today. Mechanic claimed an extra hour on his job sheet for "extreme corrosion"
i did not have to pay .. covered by warranty/recall ... (am 500 KM from my warranty expiring, had my grill replaced again for peeling..)
drove car for abt 40 Km and it feels like new!! (maybe in my mind). but I believe he has done a good job.... reallignment all done ....
i did not have to pay .. covered by warranty/recall ... (am 500 KM from my warranty expiring, had my grill replaced again for peeling..)
drove car for abt 40 Km and it feels like new!! (maybe in my mind). but I believe he has done a good job.... reallignment all done ....
Originally Posted by jsuggs
It is worth the swapout .. The car rides SOOOO much better !!
John ..
John ..
O well that happens time to bust out the lawyers.
Kam
Ok, so it seems that the TSB that applies to the recall is absolutely the worst case scenario. I took the car in today and things went off with out a hitch. That makes me feel good. Speaking with one of the service guys I was informed it's a combination of the bushings and frame. As the recall states...the 05's get new bushings only while the 04's get a new frame and bushing. Who ever makes the subframe for Nissan messed up. My guess is that the aluminum wasn't properly heat treated. Not to mention that the bushings wear too easily especially when subject to salty conditions. The front bushings are less thick than the rear bushings. This is where the wear happens first. It's too early to tell if everything will hold up...wait till winter and salt i guess.
It could be purely in my head, but the car feels a little stiffer and more responsive, but I did get a kia as a loaner so the butt dyno was happy to be back in the max. The rear of the car did seem to be stiffer on acceleration.
So for all of you who were scared like me...more than likely it will go smooth. I hope this helps you guys out.
It could be purely in my head, but the car feels a little stiffer and more responsive, but I did get a kia as a loaner so the butt dyno was happy to be back in the max. The rear of the car did seem to be stiffer on acceleration.
So for all of you who were scared like me...more than likely it will go smooth. I hope this helps you guys out.
I took mine in here and they said that they only do it if the bushings are cracked. Otherwise they just replaced the bushings and that's it. They said I had no rust or corrosion. Is this correct? Ny the way, my car was making a creaking sound that just started this winter and I hardly drive it in winter as we have two cars. The creeking sound occured when ever I drove over a big bump in the road or a speed bump at a certain speed.
I just got off the phone with my dealer and they said it is not an inspection, but a complete replacement. They are waiting on parts which he said were on national backorder. It's going in next Friday for the lumbar switch and to have the exhaust bracket replaced, again. Maybe they'll have all the parts by then.
Got my letter to have the recall done. I am scheduled to have the complete subframe replacement on June 8th. They will also do my cracked windshield replacement at the same time. My poor Max will be sore from all of the surgery it will undergo that day.
Originally Posted by andymax95
Good damn nissan. First its a heated seat thing and now my car is gonna rot like a 67 chevy
http://www.shonetonline.com/joesss/index.htm
37 years strong
Just a head's up for those who haven't had the subframe recall done yet (or even those who have). I had mine done last month. About 2 or so weeks after having it done (at a dealership who said they do the most of these recalls of any other dealer in the area), it sounded like the whole back end of my car was falling off when I went over any uneven pavement or bump. I took it back in and it was the bolts they used for the subframe replacement weren't torqued properly (or tight enough?) and they needed re-torqued. Just and FYI in case it happens to you.
Jane
Jane
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by missjane
Just a head's up for those who haven't had the subframe recall done yet (or even those who have). I had mine done last month. About 2 or so weeks after having it done (at a dealership who said they do the most of these recalls of any other dealer in the area), it sounded like the whole back end of my car was falling off when I went over any uneven pavement or bump. I took it back in and it was the bolts they used for the subframe replacement weren't torqued properly (or tight enough?) and they needed re-torqued. Just and FYI in case it happens to you.
Jane
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