Suspension Update...cattman vs Eibach
02-05-2006, 07:51 PM
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Suspension Update...cattman vs Eibach
Hey guys reporting back after 3.5 months of having my Cattman installed.
Previously I has used Eibach springs to lower my car, after 1000 miles I develoved clicking and clunking over bumps and accelerating. Removed springs went back to stock....how ugly i know!!. for about 8000k miles...then Deus introduced my to Cattman....thnx by the way. And now with 15k miles I have the best.
I have had the Cattman springs and rear sway bar on my 05 for since a week before thanksgiving. And all is good! no noises, no clicking just a perfectly smooth ride that handles as good as it looks.
I highly recommed the Cattmans spring to everyone. No more gap, no swaying over bumps either.....stiff w/o being harsh.
The only thing that bugs me is why they wont provide zerk fittings to lube the rear bushings of the sway bar, mine tend to squeak a bit over speed bumps and stuff like that. Just an idea??? I have lubed mine 2x.BTW if that is all its fine by me...just turn up the music!
check my cardmain page for pix of both.
Cattman page 1
Eibach Page 2
Thanks
VQMAX05
Previously I has used Eibach springs to lower my car, after 1000 miles I develoved clicking and clunking over bumps and accelerating. Removed springs went back to stock....how ugly i know!!. for about 8000k miles...then Deus introduced my to Cattman....thnx by the way. And now with 15k miles I have the best.
I have had the Cattman springs and rear sway bar on my 05 for since a week before thanksgiving. And all is good! no noises, no clicking just a perfectly smooth ride that handles as good as it looks.
I highly recommed the Cattmans spring to everyone. No more gap, no swaying over bumps either.....stiff w/o being harsh.
The only thing that bugs me is why they wont provide zerk fittings to lube the rear bushings of the sway bar, mine tend to squeak a bit over speed bumps and stuff like that. Just an idea??? I have lubed mine 2x.BTW if that is all its fine by me...just turn up the music!
check my cardmain page for pix of both.
Cattman page 1
Eibach Page 2
Thanks
VQMAX05
02-05-2006, 08:22 PM
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[QUOTE=VQMAX05]
The only thing that bugs me is why they wont provide zerk fittings to lube the rear bushings of the sway bar, mine tend to squeak a bit over speed bumps and stuff like that. Just an idea??? I have lubed mine 2x.BTW if that is all its fine by me...just turn up the music!
[QUOTE]
Thanks for the quick review there. I'm 90% sure I'm about to buy the same setup.
In regards to zerk fittings. Why not install your own? I've done that before. Just pop a hole in the bushing mount, and put in a fitting. Then drill a corresponding hole in the rubber bushing.
Using the correct lube may also be an issue. I scored some Ford bushing lube from the dealership SA. The damn stuff was like $80 for a 4oz tube. Worked like a charm and stopped the squeaks for about 6mos.
Other than the effort and tools required to put in your own zerk fittings is there anything else to prevent their installation?
CM
The only thing that bugs me is why they wont provide zerk fittings to lube the rear bushings of the sway bar, mine tend to squeak a bit over speed bumps and stuff like that. Just an idea??? I have lubed mine 2x.BTW if that is all its fine by me...just turn up the music!
[QUOTE]
Thanks for the quick review there. I'm 90% sure I'm about to buy the same setup.
In regards to zerk fittings. Why not install your own? I've done that before. Just pop a hole in the bushing mount, and put in a fitting. Then drill a corresponding hole in the rubber bushing.
Using the correct lube may also be an issue. I scored some Ford bushing lube from the dealership SA. The damn stuff was like $80 for a 4oz tube. Worked like a charm and stopped the squeaks for about 6mos.
Other than the effort and tools required to put in your own zerk fittings is there anything else to prevent their installation?
CM
02-06-2006, 02:53 AM
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there's a GD on these right now. waiting for my paycheck to get in so i can hop on this. 
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=450276
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=450276
02-06-2006, 07:55 PM
#8
I've had the cattman/progress setup for about a month now, and I love them. Handles great, no strange noises, looks great. If you have any questions or comments, let Brian (cattman) know. Just my 2 cents...
02-06-2006, 08:58 PM
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Iclrod - Can you compare the ride with your SL - I wanted to see someone how recently has change the springs - since they may remember the difference in the ride.
(Stock) vs. with Progress Springs.
I am looking to make this conversion here in the next few months and I can concerned the ride is going to be rougher. I drive a ton of miles (Approx. 30K) a year and I bought the SL because the ride was smoother.
(Stock) vs. with Progress Springs.
I am looking to make this conversion here in the next few months and I can concerned the ride is going to be rougher. I drive a ton of miles (Approx. 30K) a year and I bought the SL because the ride was smoother.
02-06-2006, 09:39 PM
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Here's the prices from the Group Deal thread:
PROGRESS 24mm REAR SWAY BAR: MAXIMA 04-05 Item # PRG-621522
$130 shipped (Progress 22mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar For Nissan Maxima 04-05)
PROGRESS SPORT SPRINGS: MAXIMA 04-05 Item # PRG-401522
$169 shipped (Progress Technology Springs -1.8" Drop (FR) & -.75" Drop (RR) For Nissan Maxima 04-05)
Now the question I have is, according to this website:
http://www.coximport.com/progress/apps.html
The drop is 1.7in in the front and 1.5 in the rear? According the GD
The drop is 1.8in in the front and .8 in the rear?
I was just shopping the price and ran accross those specs. I emailed Progress on Sunday but haven't heard back from them yet.
Dues, VQ can either of you vouch for the drop in the rear?
And who installed the springs/bar on your cars.
Thanks guys.
PROGRESS 24mm REAR SWAY BAR: MAXIMA 04-05 Item # PRG-621522
$130 shipped (Progress 22mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar For Nissan Maxima 04-05)
PROGRESS SPORT SPRINGS: MAXIMA 04-05 Item # PRG-401522
$169 shipped (Progress Technology Springs -1.8" Drop (FR) & -.75" Drop (RR) For Nissan Maxima 04-05)
Now the question I have is, according to this website:
http://www.coximport.com/progress/apps.html
The drop is 1.7in in the front and 1.5 in the rear? According the GD
The drop is 1.8in in the front and .8 in the rear?
I was just shopping the price and ran accross those specs. I emailed Progress on Sunday but haven't heard back from them yet.
Dues, VQ can either of you vouch for the drop in the rear?
And who installed the springs/bar on your cars.
Thanks guys.
02-06-2006, 10:06 PM
#13
OK wait VQMAX05, in one thread you say you have the PROGRESS springs, and in this one your say you have the CATTMAN?? Whats the deal bro? I am about to order the CATTMAN's but i just remembered about the GD on the PROGRESS and PROGRESS RSB?? Cheaper for the Progress.. I need to know which one to get ASAP... I am making my decision tommorrow, someone please clearify this for me... Thanks...
here is the thread that is in question...
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...7&postcount=34
here is the thread that is in question...
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...7&postcount=34
02-06-2006, 10:27 PM
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I was there at Progress for the design phase and I know for a fact that the drop in the rear for Progress/Cattman springs is .75-.8". We determined that this was the BESt drop to match the drop in the front since OEM ride height is lower in the rear than the front. if you go 1.5" in back, than ur back to ur uneven gap and it throw the suspension geometry off too much. Go with Progress/Cattman springs.
02-06-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
I was there at Progress for the design phase and I know for a fact that the drop in the rear for Progress/Cattman springs is .75-.8". We determined that this was the BESt drop to match the drop in the front since OEM ride height is lower in the rear than the front. if you go 1.5" in back, than ur back to ur uneven gap and it throw the suspension geometry off too much. Go with Progress/Cattman springs.
Ghost, I think the Progress and Cattman springs are the same. Maybe some can explain why the are called by two names.
02-06-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Apollos2
Thanks Dues, appreciate it.
Ghost, I think the Progress and Cattman springs are the same. Maybe some can explain why the are called by two names.
Ghost, I think the Progress and Cattman springs are the same. Maybe some can explain why the are called by two names.
thanks that cleared it up for me, i am going with the group deal.. thanks....
02-07-2006, 05:18 AM
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Cattman and Progress are 1 in the same, Progress suspension makes the springs and rear sway bar for Cattman Performance. So cattman is progress. And progress is cattman sort of (when it comes to our 6th gens)
You will not be disappointed with the Cattman/Progress stuff.
Jon
You will not be disappointed with the Cattman/Progress stuff.
Jon
02-07-2006, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamy
Can anyone else confirm that the Cattman/Progress springs have no noise? I'd like to swap out my eibachs. My wife hates the noise.
7K miles on C/P, and no noise so far. I do check the seating evertime the car is lifted (oil change, tire rotation) and haven't needed to adjust yet.
02-07-2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamy
Can anyone else confirm that the Cattman/Progress springs have no noise? I'd like to swap out my eibachs. My wife hates the noise.
02-07-2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalMax05
Iclrod - Can you compare the ride with your SL - I wanted to see someone how recently has change the springs - since they may remember the difference in the ride.
(Stock) vs. with Progress Springs.
I am looking to make this conversion here in the next few months and I can concerned the ride is going to be rougher. I drive a ton of miles (Approx. 30K) a year and I bought the SL because the ride was smoother.
(Stock) vs. with Progress Springs.
I am looking to make this conversion here in the next few months and I can concerned the ride is going to be rougher. I drive a ton of miles (Approx. 30K) a year and I bought the SL because the ride was smoother.
02-07-2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by greg hazlett
So the Cattman/Progress RSB is the same? Wish I would have known that as I just spent $175 for a Cattman RSB.....
02-09-2006, 03:40 PM
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Hi guys,
I want to install the springs and RSB for my Max. Do I need to change struts too? Anybody have installed the GR2 struts? Will I notice any differences? How much did you guys get charge for installing springs and RSB?
I want to install the springs and RSB for my Max. Do I need to change struts too? Anybody have installed the GR2 struts? Will I notice any differences? How much did you guys get charge for installing springs and RSB?
02-09-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kidd4l
Hi guys,
I want to install the springs and RSB for my Max. Do I need to change struts too? Anybody have installed the GR2 struts? Will I notice any differences? How much did you guys get charge for installing springs and RSB?
I want to install the springs and RSB for my Max. Do I need to change struts too? Anybody have installed the GR2 struts? Will I notice any differences? How much did you guys get charge for installing springs and RSB?
2. Some has.
3. Yes.
4. DIY or $200-300.
02-09-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalMax05
Thanks for the response - Looks like a done deal. - Cattman/Progress for me....
Oh I paid more, must be better...
02-09-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chernmax
Enjoy the higher price for something that no one can provide proof handles or give enhance performance over GReddy or Stillen.
Oh I paid more, must be better...
Oh I paid more, must be better...
02-09-2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lclrod
When I was looking around for mine, I paid less for the Cattman setup. The other two were atleast $100 more. Could be luck of the draw though. I'm happy with my setup.
I'm referring to a system that removes the entire OEM just after the resonator. Everything is light stainless steel and new.
02-09-2006, 07:35 PM
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The Cattman is a well-thought out system that entirely replaces the exhaust from the y-pipe back. I was there for the development so Im speaking first-hand. There are several significant crimps in the stock exhaust that are eliminated by the Cattman system. The bends are mandrel, the correct way, so they are smooth. The Cattman also has the option of an additional resonator to quiet it for those who desire a quieter system. It is also much lighter and I know this cuz I picked up the stock system with teh heavy mufflers, and then I picked up the Cattman system.
02-09-2006, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Oh, and by the way, the Cattman comes with flanges so u can take it apart easily.
Again, I'm not busting on cattman, just no data to support it's better than GReddy and cattman cost more and the audience is mixed on which sound better...
02-18-2006, 05:00 PM
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Before I take the plunge and buy springs, I was also checking on strut prices since I was told struts were recommended. I thought it might be cheaper to have it all installed at once. Then..........one shop told me I may need a camber kit as well. Does that sound correct?
02-18-2006, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Apollos2
Before I take the plunge and buy springs, I was also checking on strut prices since I was told struts were recommended. I thought it might be cheaper to have it all installed at once. Then..........one shop told me I may need a camber kit as well. Does that sound correct?