rim offset and 6th generation.
#1
rim offset and 6th generation.
I posted similar question in the right section and nobody even tried helping so here it is.
I was reading that decreasing size of the offset on the rims, moves the outer part and tire out towards outter edge of the car. Our SE comes with 18" rims with 40mm offset which means if the offset was 35mm the edge of the tire would move out by 5mm. If the offset was 30mm then endge of the tire would move 10mm out.
My question is how far can I go with my 04 max SE before I run into trouble. Please take into consideration that it is dropped on progress.
You guys out there with wheel spacers, how big of a wheel spacer did you get away with. The reason I ask about the offset is because making the offset smaller would make the lip on the rim bigger without going in rim/tire size/width.
Any help is appreciated.
I was reading that decreasing size of the offset on the rims, moves the outer part and tire out towards outter edge of the car. Our SE comes with 18" rims with 40mm offset which means if the offset was 35mm the edge of the tire would move out by 5mm. If the offset was 30mm then endge of the tire would move 10mm out.
My question is how far can I go with my 04 max SE before I run into trouble. Please take into consideration that it is dropped on progress.
You guys out there with wheel spacers, how big of a wheel spacer did you get away with. The reason I ask about the offset is because making the offset smaller would make the lip on the rim bigger without going in rim/tire size/width.
Any help is appreciated.
#2
Width of rims come into play too. I think 40mm offset will be almost flushed if the rim is 8.5" wide, 1" wider than stock.
What are the sizes some of you have? I'm about to have an excuse to get some new wheels...
What are the sizes some of you have? I'm about to have an excuse to get some new wheels...
#3
I want to keep the size to 18/7.5 because I just bought the tires about 2 months ago. I am not going to spend another 800-900 because I want to get a different rim. I know it should be the other way around where you get the rims and dress them in tires....well, I have the tires already so now I need the rims.
#4
Originally Posted by RHMax
Width of rims come into play too. I think 40mm offset will be almost flushed if the rim is 8.5" wide, 1" wider than stock.
What are the sizes some of you have? I'm about to have an excuse to get some new wheels...
What are the sizes some of you have? I'm about to have an excuse to get some new wheels...
#5
Originally Posted by xoomer.com
If 8.5" would be almost flush then we are proly talking about 12-13mm difference. With 40mm offset (same as stock) going from 7.5 to 8.5 would add about 13mm on each side of the tire. Is 12mm the farthest you can go without the tires sticking out/rubbing????
I think we have more than 1/2 inch to play with. That's whay I'm curious on what size rims some 6th genners are running.
About your tires, 245-45 will fit 8.5" wide wheel.
#6
One way to tell what will fit: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...tegoryId=11615
#7
Originally Posted by Pronto
One way to tell what will fit: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...tegoryId=11615
Come on you guys, share the knowledge.
#8
I have a 9.5" wide on a 35mm offset, 3-4" lip and I'm flush.
this is a weird subject, lots of people have opinions on how this works. my rims are 35mm on a 9.5" width, but thats cause my spokes are deep inside the rim giving me that 3-4" lip. on a 7.5" rim it just might be around 30mm with a small lip if the spokes were pushed back some towards the center.
the offset isn't calculated by how wide the rim is, but were the center (lugs) is located inside the the cilinder. its different with wheels that have no lip vs wheels that do.
is that what your asking?
this is a weird subject, lots of people have opinions on how this works. my rims are 35mm on a 9.5" width, but thats cause my spokes are deep inside the rim giving me that 3-4" lip. on a 7.5" rim it just might be around 30mm with a small lip if the spokes were pushed back some towards the center.
the offset isn't calculated by how wide the rim is, but were the center (lugs) is located inside the the cilinder. its different with wheels that have no lip vs wheels that do.
is that what your asking?
#9
[QUOTE=Tek-Niq]I have a 9.5" wide on a 35mm offset, 3-4" lip and I'm flush.
...offset isn't calculated by how wide the rim is, but were the center (lugs) is located inside the the cilinder. its different with wheels that have no lip vs wheels that do.
QUOTE]
Thanks tek-niq ....The offset is the distance from the center of the rim's width to the center hub. The deeper the spokes into the hub the smaller the offset and larger the lip. With that in mind if you take a rim that is 7' wide with 40mm offset and same type of rim 8' wide also with 40mm offset your lip will be about 12mm wider. Now decreasin the offset to 30mm would push the spokes deeper into the rim by 10mm effectively increasing the lip by 10mm. Since the rotor/wheel hub doesn't go deeper it is the rim that moves out.
So my question is how much can I move out untill I am flush without rubbing issues? Can I go as far as 20mm?????
...offset isn't calculated by how wide the rim is, but were the center (lugs) is located inside the the cilinder. its different with wheels that have no lip vs wheels that do.
QUOTE]
Thanks tek-niq ....The offset is the distance from the center of the rim's width to the center hub. The deeper the spokes into the hub the smaller the offset and larger the lip. With that in mind if you take a rim that is 7' wide with 40mm offset and same type of rim 8' wide also with 40mm offset your lip will be about 12mm wider. Now decreasin the offset to 30mm would push the spokes deeper into the rim by 10mm effectively increasing the lip by 10mm. Since the rotor/wheel hub doesn't go deeper it is the rim that moves out.
So my question is how much can I move out untill I am flush without rubbing issues? Can I go as far as 20mm?????
#10
[QUOTE=Tek-Niq]I have a 9.5" wide on a 35mm offset, 3-4" lip and I'm flush.
QUOTE]
Do you have a picture somewhere? What type of rims do you have and size tire you use.
Thanks for your help.
QUOTE]
Do you have a picture somewhere? What type of rims do you have and size tire you use.
Thanks for your help.
#13
OK TEK
According to the offset calculator swapping the OEM rims you had
18" x 7.5" wide with 40mm offset (stock)
with
18" x 9.5" wide with 30mm offset
would result in 20mm less clerance on the inner side and 30mm push-out on the outher edge.
With that in mind you just moved it out 30mm and now you're flush. Thats a good news for me but a bit unbelievable.
TEK, please supply some pics
According to the offset calculator swapping the OEM rims you had
18" x 7.5" wide with 40mm offset (stock)
with
18" x 9.5" wide with 30mm offset
would result in 20mm less clerance on the inner side and 30mm push-out on the outher edge.
With that in mind you just moved it out 30mm and now you're flush. Thats a good news for me but a bit unbelievable.
TEK, please supply some pics
#14
Originally Posted by xoomer.com
So my question is how much can I move out untill I am flush without rubbing issues? Can I go as far as 20mm?????
cause if you are looking for an 18" with a 1" lip or so, the offset might still be 40mm with a style thats made for that.
you don't necessarily have to lessen the offset to get a lip.
#15
Thank for the pic. WOW you're flush. Do you have any rubbing?
OK here is why I started this tread. I saw these great rims and they come standard 18" 7.5" wide with 20mm offset. Plugging the numbers into the calculator shows that the rim would have 20mm more clerance on the inner wall and will move out 20mm. If your rims move out 30mm according to the calculator I should be very fine with these rims and a nice fat lip.
Come one everybody else, chime in before I don't want to spend $$$ and find out its impossible.
OK here is why I started this tread. I saw these great rims and they come standard 18" 7.5" wide with 20mm offset. Plugging the numbers into the calculator shows that the rim would have 20mm more clerance on the inner wall and will move out 20mm. If your rims move out 30mm according to the calculator I should be very fine with these rims and a nice fat lip.
Come one everybody else, chime in before I don't want to spend $$$ and find out its impossible.
#16
Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
this is where it gets tricky, I don't think there is an definate answer to this. it all depends on the style of wheel and such.
cause if you are looking for an 18" with a 1" lip or so, the offset might still be 40mm with a style thats made for that.
you don't necessarily have to lessen the offset to get a lip.
cause if you are looking for an 18" with a 1" lip or so, the offset might still be 40mm with a style thats made for that.
you don't necessarily have to lessen the offset to get a lip.
#17
Originally Posted by xoomer.com
Thank for the pic. WOW you're flush. Do you have any rubbing?
OK here is why I started this tread. I saw these great rims and they come standard 18" 7.5" wide with 20mm offset. Plugging the numbers into the calculator shows that the rim would have 20mm more clerance on the inner wall and will move out 20mm. If your rims move out 30mm according to the calculator I should be very fine with these rims and a nice fat lip.
Come one everybody else, chime in before I don't want to spend $$$ and find out its impossible.
OK here is why I started this tread. I saw these great rims and they come standard 18" 7.5" wide with 20mm offset. Plugging the numbers into the calculator shows that the rim would have 20mm more clerance on the inner wall and will move out 20mm. If your rims move out 30mm according to the calculator I should be very fine with these rims and a nice fat lip.
Come one everybody else, chime in before I don't want to spend $$$ and find out its impossible.
I know low offsets like that are usually for RWD cars, they are the rear set so it gives it that deep look.
this is why i don't ever order rims online, I go to a shop try some rims on and judge by that.
offset can be really tough when theres lots of styles that measure differently.
wait it out, or go to a shop and learn more..
#18
Tek I appreciate your help man. I 've done a lot of research and theoretically it should work. Even pluggin in your rim size into the calculator show that it would work. I just want to hear that somebody tried it and it didn't and why - or - yeah I have it and its great.
BTW if someone needs the calculator it is here.
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
BTW if someone needs the calculator it is here.
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
#19
yea, this one is tough to get a deffinate answer on since all wheels designs are different. I wish I could tell you exact, but thats my experience with that.
good luck with your search..
good luck with your search..
#21
Originally Posted by Outlawd
Hey, quick question to everyone, What would the correct offset be for 19x9 fronts and 19x10 rears for 6th gen maximas. Thanks
19x10 should be 42mm
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