My B!tch got a new pair of shoes!!!
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by maxchef
No your job is done here...you just made my coffee fly outa my mouth with that comment!!...LOL
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lolololololol
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
Without a TS reprogram? Too bad ya'll are hundreds of miles apart. I would like to see that race.
Currently I'm puttin down 256hp to the wheel...
I piss on Civics.
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Originally Posted by chernmax
You're safe...
your still a b**tard. :[ nice whip.. GAH big tax return coming.. where to spend it... vacation, gifts for the me, or chernmaxxing up the max.. DECISIONS DECISIONS.
did i mention nice whip?
great work as always buddy 
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Looks good, puttin mine on today i think...just wondering why you went with a 255 series tire on an 8" rim (hence the tires bulge out)? I have 245 series on mine and the rim is 8.5" I was suggested by the tire guys to go as narrow as possible with the tire in relation to the rim width.
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
Looks good, puttin mine on today i think...just wondering why you went with a 255 series tire on an 8" rim (hence the tires bulge out)? I have 245 series on mine and the rim is 8.5" I was suggested by the tire guys to go as narrow as possible with the tire in relation to the rim width.
why would u put a narrower tire, unless its for snow or rain?
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Originally Posted by chernmax
Unless I want to mess with my rev limiter, open up the top end and have 100% throttle opening, a T/S reflash works
That's why I said it would be a good race.
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
Looks good, puttin mine on today i think...just wondering why you went with a 255 series tire on an 8" rim (hence the tires bulge out)? I have 245 series on mine and the rim is 8.5" I was suggested by the tire guys to go as narrow as possible with the tire in relation to the rim width.
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
Less sidewall flex and less weight
Bottom line, the more chrome, the more weight...
My rims come in at 19.5lbs, a nice set of chrome bling, bling 20's can come in at 27-32lbs each!!! Sorry, my b!tch is on a diet...
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
That's exactly what you don't get with the AFC. Also without the TS flash you're limited to maybe 145. Plus you're auto he's 6spd. Not matter how fast you move the lever the manual still shifts quicker. That's why I said it would be a good race.
That's why I said it would be a good race.
Originally Posted by chernmax
If a stock 18x7.5 can handle a stock 245/45/ZR 18's than an 18x8 can easily handle a 255/45/ZR 18 and on TireRack.com, the tire specialist report this is a compatable tire, yes slightly more sidewall however now if parking incorrectly, I rub tire, you rub rim. Sorry but IMO, my setup will out perform any 19, 20, 22 setup out there...
The KDW2's in 255/45-18's fit a rim width of 8.0-9.5 inches.
They have a contact pattern of nearly 10 inches touching the ground.
That b!tch has wide feet and pretty blue eyes.
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I recall looking at a new 911 on the lot and I dont know the actual dimentions of the rim or the tire but it looked as though those tires were shoehorned on the rim (i.e. as narrow as possible) I think after seeing that, thats what kept me with the 245 in spite of going an inch wider on the rim. Im not an expert on this though...
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
I recall looking at a new 911 on the lot and I dont know the actual dimentions of the rim or the tire but it looked as though those tires were shoehorned on the rim (i.e. as narrow as possible) I think after seeing that, thats what kept me with the 245 in spite of going an inch wider on the rim. Im not an expert on this though...
I prefer the previous wheels that you had on the max. The new wheels don't fit the lines of the car. It is like it is missing something. I do like the black and red combo that is a nice touch. I wheels are just there and they should say something. I think the others are right you need some go fast with those wheels it looks like it will flat out haul azz. Big ups for being daring and different.
I have the same tires in 245/45/18 on 18x8 and 18x9 respectively. Going from 7.5 oem rims to 9 wide makes the tire really solid and greatly improved handling.
There is a chart at the website showing mounting options and according to that chart KDWs that are 245 wide mount over rims ffrom 7.5-9 and 255 wide on rims 8-9.5 wide. The wider the rim, the less flex and better handling and from own experience, even with the widest of the rim setups the tire still provides rim protection, or so far it did when my girlfriend rubbed the wheels couple of time.
There is a chart at the website showing mounting options and according to that chart KDWs that are 245 wide mount over rims ffrom 7.5-9 and 255 wide on rims 8-9.5 wide. The wider the rim, the less flex and better handling and from own experience, even with the widest of the rim setups the tire still provides rim protection, or so far it did when my girlfriend rubbed the wheels couple of time.
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by KUBLKMAX
I prefer the previous wheels that you had on the max. The new wheels don't fit the lines of the car. It is like it is missing something. I do like the black and red combo that is a nice touch. I wheels are just there and they should say something. I think the others are right you need some go fast with those wheels it looks like it will flat out haul azz. Big ups for being daring and different.
Cool, thanks for the feedback...
Originally Posted by KUBLKMAX
I prefer the previous wheels that you had on the max. The new wheels don't fit the lines of the car. It is like it is missing something. I do like the black and red combo that is a nice touch. I wheels are just there and they should say something. I think the others are right you need some go fast with those wheels it looks like it will flat out haul azz. Big ups for being daring and different.
I agree with the "K" man.
You need to send those black inappropiate wheels to me (I'll pay the shipping). I'm feeling nice today so I'll take them off your hands. You can welcome me later. 
Regarding low profile tires. Mostly at first people were trying to keep thier speedometers true and force the wheels to fit inside the wheel wells.
Then they became the style along with really big wheels. It's true that you get less flex with lower profile tires and bigger wheels (like 20's) but the trade-offs are HUGE. You are much better off performance wise tuning your suspension around 17's or 18's. Another thing I noticed with 20's is you get a lot more torque steer. Feels terrible accelerating around corners. I'm assuming SL's and SE's have the same transmission (limited slip, or no limited slip).
Bling/Looks-go BIG wheel small profile*
Performance-go 17 or 18 wheel along with a more moderate profile*
For a given tire width, a wider wheel will lend itself to better performance (as long as you're within the tolerances of the tire) up to a certain point.
Check out this link and notice the size of the wheel (15inches) and width of the wheel (9.5 inches). Also notice how much tire sidewall the nascar has.
http://www.foytracing.com/_NASCAR/nas_carinfo.html
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by coolmax05
My condolences concerning your late Wife KUBLKMAX.
I agree with the "K" man. You need to send those black inappropiate wheels to me (I'll pay the shipping). I'm feeling nice today so I'll take them off your hands. You can welcome me later.
Regarding low profile tires. Mostly at first people were trying to keep thier speedometers true and force the wheels to fit inside the wheel wells.
Then they became the style along with really big wheels. It's true that you get less flex with lower profile tires and bigger wheels (like 20's) but the trade-offs are HUGE. You are much better off performance wise tuning your suspension around 17's or 18's. Another thing I noticed with 20's is you get a lot more torque steer. Feels terrible accelerating around corners. I'm assuming SL's and SE's have the same transmission (limited slip, or no limited slip).
Bling/Looks-go BIG wheel small profile*
Performance-go 17 or 18 wheel along with a more moderate profile*
For a given tire width, a wider wheel will lend itself to better performance (as long as you're within the tolerances of the tire) up to a certain point.
Check out this link and notice the size of the wheel (15inches) and width of the wheel (9.5 inches). Also notice how much tire sidewall the nascar has.
http://www.foytracing.com/_NASCAR/nas_carinfo.html
I agree with the "K" man.
You need to send those black inappropiate wheels to me (I'll pay the shipping). I'm feeling nice today so I'll take them off your hands. You can welcome me later. Regarding low profile tires. Mostly at first people were trying to keep thier speedometers true and force the wheels to fit inside the wheel wells.
Then they became the style along with really big wheels. It's true that you get less flex with lower profile tires and bigger wheels (like 20's) but the trade-offs are HUGE. You are much better off performance wise tuning your suspension around 17's or 18's. Another thing I noticed with 20's is you get a lot more torque steer. Feels terrible accelerating around corners. I'm assuming SL's and SE's have the same transmission (limited slip, or no limited slip).
Bling/Looks-go BIG wheel small profile*
Performance-go 17 or 18 wheel along with a more moderate profile*
For a given tire width, a wider wheel will lend itself to better performance (as long as you're within the tolerances of the tire) up to a certain point.
Check out this link and notice the size of the wheel (15inches) and width of the wheel (9.5 inches). Also notice how much tire sidewall the nascar has.
http://www.foytracing.com/_NASCAR/nas_carinfo.html
OK, so you made me laugh out loud,
I'll have the tires in the mail ASAP... Thanks for the feedback and info, I'm fairly confident you get it!!! 
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Um...it dosent seem like those articles are really talking about the same thing...i agree about the smaller rims for more performance, but the question I was wondering about was tire width relative to wheel width. My opinion is that as long as the rim is wide, thats where your performance is coming from, therefore putting an even wider tire on an already wide rim isnt going to improve handling; its best to have the tire fit the rim tightly so there is no spongy sidewall buldge. Im going to look into it and see what I can find.
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
Um...it dosent seem like those articles are really talking about the same thing...i agree about the smaller rims for more performance, but the question I was wondering about was tire width relative to wheel width. My opinion is that as long as the rim is wide, thats where your performance is coming from, therefore putting an even wider tire on an already wide rim isnt going to improve handling; its best to have the tire fit the rim tightly so there is no spongy sidewall buldge. Im going to look into it and see what I can find.
Now, in the case of a 255/45 mounted on a 9.5 inch wide will give you maximum handling/faster steering response due to straiter sidewalls. The disadvantage will be ride quality (you will feel bumps more).
Now mount the same tire on a 8.0 inch wheel and your handling will not be quite as precise and fast but your ride quality will improve due to a rounder sidewall. Tire Engineers always recommend a rim width for thier tires to maximize heat resistance and the tires ability to remain on the wheel.
As always it comes down to the owners personal taste in terms of handling, ride quality, looks, cost, and ability to be questioned when he/she does something out of the ordinary.
If you look at the stock wheel/tire combo you'll notice that a 245/45 tire is mounted on a 7.5 inch wheel (the narrowest acceptable rim width). Chermax has done the same thing with his 255/45's. The man is a genuis I tell you.
A wide rim does you no good with too narrow of a tire. As long as you are within spec., it's all good! Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
Taste great, less filling...it all comes down to you-the owner. Me? I like a lot of meat. Bring on the width!
Disclaimer: Use wide tires carefully in the rain/snow because they are more prone to hydroplaning. Also, wide tires are more susceptable to tramlining (The term "tramlining" is being used to describe when directional control is disrupted by the vehicle's tendency to follow the longitudinal ruts and/or grooves in the road. It's name could be compared to the tram or trolley driver who does not steer because his vehicle follows the path established by the tracks.)
Originally Posted by coolmax05
I think we can agree that the more rubber on the ground the more grip (in dry conditions). Another nice aspect is in the looks department. In terms of tire width relative to wheel width it really comes to staying within the manufacturers Specs. In Chermax's case he has a 8 inch wide wheel. His 255/45 tires are made for rim widths from 8.0- 9.5 inches. he is within theses tolerances.
Now, in the case of a 255/45 mounted on a 9.5 inch wide will give you maximum handling/faster steering response due to straiter sidewalls. The disadvantage will be ride quality (you will feel bumps more).
Now mount the same tire on a 8.0 inch wheel and your handling will not be quite as precise and fast but your ride quality will improve due to a rounder sidewall. Tire Engineers always recommend a rim width for thier tires to maximize heat resistance and the tires ability to remain on the wheel.
As always it comes down to the owners personal taste in terms of handling, ride quality, looks, cost, and ability to be questioned when he/she does something out of the ordinary.
If you look at the stock wheel/tire combo you'll notice that a 245/45 tire is mounted on a 7.5 inch wheel (the narrowest acceptable rim width). Chermax has done the same thing with his 255/45's. The man is a genuis I tell you.
A wide rim does you no good with too narrow of a tire. As long as you are within spec., it's all good! Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
Taste great, less filling...it all comes down to you-the owner. Me? I like a lot of meat. Bring on the width!
Disclaimer: Use wide tires carefully in the rain/snow because they are more prone to hydroplaning. Also, wide tires are more susceptable to tramlining (The term "tramlining" is being used to describe when directional control is disrupted by the vehicle's tendency to follow the longitudinal ruts and/or grooves in the road. It's name could be compared to the tram or trolley driver who does not steer because his vehicle follows the path established by the tracks.)
Now, in the case of a 255/45 mounted on a 9.5 inch wide will give you maximum handling/faster steering response due to straiter sidewalls. The disadvantage will be ride quality (you will feel bumps more).
Now mount the same tire on a 8.0 inch wheel and your handling will not be quite as precise and fast but your ride quality will improve due to a rounder sidewall. Tire Engineers always recommend a rim width for thier tires to maximize heat resistance and the tires ability to remain on the wheel.
As always it comes down to the owners personal taste in terms of handling, ride quality, looks, cost, and ability to be questioned when he/she does something out of the ordinary.
If you look at the stock wheel/tire combo you'll notice that a 245/45 tire is mounted on a 7.5 inch wheel (the narrowest acceptable rim width). Chermax has done the same thing with his 255/45's. The man is a genuis I tell you.
A wide rim does you no good with too narrow of a tire. As long as you are within spec., it's all good! Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
Taste great, less filling...it all comes down to you-the owner. Me? I like a lot of meat. Bring on the width!
Disclaimer: Use wide tires carefully in the rain/snow because they are more prone to hydroplaning. Also, wide tires are more susceptable to tramlining (The term "tramlining" is being used to describe when directional control is disrupted by the vehicle's tendency to follow the longitudinal ruts and/or grooves in the road. It's name could be compared to the tram or trolley driver who does not steer because his vehicle follows the path established by the tracks.)
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by coolmax05
I think we can agree that the more rubber on the ground the more grip (in dry conditions). Another nice aspect is in the looks department. In terms of tire width relative to wheel width it really comes to staying within the manufacturers Specs. In Chermax's case he has a 8 inch wide wheel. His 255/45 tires are made for rim widths from 8.0- 9.5 inches. he is within theses tolerances.
Now, in the case of a 255/45 mounted on a 9.5 inch wide will give you maximum handling/faster steering response due to straiter sidewalls. The disadvantage will be ride quality (you will feel bumps more).
Now mount the same tire on a 8.0 inch wheel and your handling will not be quite as precise and fast but your ride quality will improve due to a rounder sidewall. Tire Engineers always recommend a rim width for thier tires to maximize heat resistance and the tires ability to remain on the wheel.
As always it comes down to the owners personal taste in terms of handling, ride quality, looks, cost, and ability to be questioned when he/she does something out of the ordinary.
If you look at the stock wheel/tire combo you'll notice that a 245/45 tire is mounted on a 7.5 inch wheel (the narrowest acceptable rim width). Chermax has done the same thing with his 255/45's. The man is a genuis I tell you.
A wide rim does you no good with too narrow of a tire. As long as you are within spec., it's all good! Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
Taste great, less filling...it all comes down to you-the owner. Me? I like a lot of meat. Bring on the width!
Disclaimer: Use wide tires carefully in the rain/snow because they are more prone to hydroplaning. Also, wide tires are more susceptable to tramlining (The term "tramlining" is being used to describe when directional control is disrupted by the vehicle's tendency to follow the longitudinal ruts and/or grooves in the road. It's name could be compared to the tram or trolley driver who does not steer because his vehicle follows the path established by the tracks.)
Now, in the case of a 255/45 mounted on a 9.5 inch wide will give you maximum handling/faster steering response due to straiter sidewalls. The disadvantage will be ride quality (you will feel bumps more).
Now mount the same tire on a 8.0 inch wheel and your handling will not be quite as precise and fast but your ride quality will improve due to a rounder sidewall. Tire Engineers always recommend a rim width for thier tires to maximize heat resistance and the tires ability to remain on the wheel.
As always it comes down to the owners personal taste in terms of handling, ride quality, looks, cost, and ability to be questioned when he/she does something out of the ordinary.
If you look at the stock wheel/tire combo you'll notice that a 245/45 tire is mounted on a 7.5 inch wheel (the narrowest acceptable rim width). Chermax has done the same thing with his 255/45's. The man is a genuis I tell you.
A wide rim does you no good with too narrow of a tire. As long as you are within spec., it's all good! Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
Taste great, less filling...it all comes down to you-the owner. Me? I like a lot of meat. Bring on the width!
Disclaimer: Use wide tires carefully in the rain/snow because they are more prone to hydroplaning. Also, wide tires are more susceptable to tramlining (The term "tramlining" is being used to describe when directional control is disrupted by the vehicle's tendency to follow the longitudinal ruts and/or grooves in the road. It's name could be compared to the tram or trolley driver who does not steer because his vehicle follows the path established by the tracks.)
Maybe it's picture angle or the black on black perception, but these tires are not bulging in a sense most people are thinking of, in fact they seem more like the ideal fit... 
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