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Old 08-02-2007, 10:48 AM
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Painted Wilwood Calipers

Well, my car will finally be finished by the end of next week so I thought I would post a teaser pic of the 4 POT Wilwood calipers that are going on the front. I had the body shop spray them red to match the 4 POT rear calipers that are coming in on Monday. Let em know what you think. I will post more pics next week after I get the car back. Sorry for pic quality I took it with my cell phone.
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looks nice man where did ya pick them up from and how much ???
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looks nice man where did ya pick them up from and how much ???
Got them from Fastbrakes for 650.00 + 100.00 to paint them.
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nice man cant wait to see them opn the ride... and hear how they run... WELL STOP haha lol
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So you painted them that color? Were they black?


I would have done body color... Especially for $100.
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Originally Posted by KCmaxx
So you painted them that color? Were they black?


I would have done body color... Especially for $100.
They were originally black, had them painted the color they are to match the 4 POT set that is going on the back.
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U really need 4 pots on the rear??? I think 2 pots are plenty. Careful of premature lock up.
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I know a while back I said Wilwood's are overkill but...

Somebody else might be getting those. lol
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Originally Posted by JoesRedMax
They were originally black, had them painted the color they are to match the 4 POT set that is going on the back.
Why in the world do you need 4 pots in the rear? Do you road race? Show?

What are you doing for rotors?
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
Why in the world do you need 4 pots in the rear? Do you road race? Show?

What are you doing for rotors?
What can I say, more for show than anything. Some people like 12 video screens in their car, what for? I happen to like the look of big brakes on a car.
As far as rotors I am putting on 2 piece 13" ones.
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NICE! And like I said in the PM's, you better show more pics!
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
U really need 4 pots on the rear??? I think 2 pots are plenty. Careful of premature lock up.
Premature lockup? What would cause that? There are plenty of cars out there with 4 POTS all the way around. I talked to the brake tech and there are no problems as long as the piston bore sizes are all the same which they are at 1.38". There should be no brake bias or any other issues that I know of.
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Which calipers are you using in the rear? I'm using the Wilwood 4 Piston superliteweights in the front. But I can't source a proper Wilwood rear caliper that will keep my parking brake. What are you using? Any pictures of your rear calipers. I current am driving a 4th gen, but using 6th gen 2pc rotors. So I'm sure I can fabricate a relocation braket so I can use the same calipers you are using in the rear
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lookin' good. Hope to see pics real soon.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:03 PM
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nah 4 pots are great i put them on a buddys s2000 they are awesome. when used proper they will sling snot though
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Originally Posted by JoesRedMax
Premature lockup? What would cause that? There are plenty of cars out there with 4 POTS all the way around. I talked to the brake tech and there are no problems as long as the piston bore sizes are all the same which they are at 1.38". There should be no brake bias or any other issues that I know of.

Joe PM ill give you my phone number or i can call you..... I hope your not putting 1.38 calipers up front because i just sent mine back.... and I ended up getting the 1.75 front 4 pot calipers which are also going back.... (to much pedal travel) to get replaced with the 1.62 fronts.

As for the rear...... man with 1.38 pots up front my bias shifted to the rear and my car became the white knuckle ride of the century.

Brian at fastbrakes is taking care of everything, but its very very dangerous to put the 1.38 calipers up front.

Matt Blhem can chime in here for this one.... he solved the problem on my car.

Call me we need to talk.

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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Joe PM ill give you my phone number or i can call you..... I hope your not putting 1.38 calipers up front because i just sent mine back.... and I ended up getting the 1.75 front 4 pot calipers which are also going back.... (to much pedal travel) to get replaced with the 1.62 fronts.

As for the rear...... man with 1.38 pots up front my bias shifted to the rear and my car became the white knuckle ride of the century.

Brian at fastbrakes is taking care of everything, but its very very dangerous to put the 1.38 calipers up front.

Matt Blhem can chime in here for this one.... he solved the problem on my car.

Call me we need to talk.

Kam
I'd be very interested in learning what the outcome of this conversation is.
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Kamski-please PM me with more info on your situation

thanks,
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Joe PM ill give you my phone number or i can call you..... I hope your not putting 1.38 calipers up front because i just sent mine back.... and I ended up getting the 1.75 front 4 pot calipers which are also going back.... (to much pedal travel) to get replaced with the 1.62 fronts.

As for the rear...... man with 1.38 pots up front my bias shifted to the rear and my car became the white knuckle ride of the century.

Brian at fastbrakes is taking care of everything, but its very very dangerous to put the 1.38 calipers up front.

Matt Blhem can chime in here for this one.... he solved the problem on my car.

Call me we need to talk.

Kam
Kam, I just got off the phone with Brian I am sending the 1.38" back for the 1.62", it sucks that I painted them already but he is going to reimburse me for it. He told me that he has had no other complaints about the 1.38" pistons except for you. Maybe Xoomer can chime in here, didn't he put them on one of his relatives cars? Anyway as you know I have a set of Rotora's going on the back, those piston sizes are 1.06". I talked to the Rotora tech today about the issue and he said that the 1.38" would work but that if I could then I should swap them for the 1.62" so that is what I am doing. Rotora's 4 POT fronts have staggered size pistons of 1.49" X 1.65". Hopefully this will solve all the problems.
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The calipers we put on my brother's car are 6-POT Wilwoods with 13.6" rotors and they are great. I never expirienced any of the symptoms Kam was describing.
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Originally Posted by xoomer.com
The calipers we put on my brother's car are 6-POT Wilwoods with 13.6" rotors and they are great. I never expirienced any of the symptoms Kam was describing.
OK so I just got off the phone with Wilwood as well. Xoomer your brother's calipers are not an issue because the 6 POT have staggered size pistons that are 1.62" x 1.12" x 1.12". He said that the 1.38" are too small for the size of our car which I guessed weighed around 3500 lbs. So Kam the 1.62" are the way to go it seems. Mine are being mailed tomorrow. Thanks for the foresight, I just wish it came a few weeks earlier before I painted them. Anyway I sure Brian will be able to sell them.
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i would like to see how these are gonna look on the car
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Originally Posted by yellowfellow90
i would like to see how these are gonna look on the car

Like this

LOOK AT THE 3rd PICTURE DOWN.
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
DAMN!!! Few pics had you almost up on 3 wheels! What's with the picture of all cars not having plates, is that some sort of auto-x rule?

at the cop car picture!
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
DAMN!!! Few pics had you almost up on 3 wheels!
I did have her on 2 at one point and thought it was gona be a mess to clean up, but the swaybars saved my ****.

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DAMN!!! What's with the picture of all cars not having plates, is that some sort of auto-x rule?
We take them off for anonimyty with regards to photos.

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at the cop car picture!
I felt like that at work today.

FAKKIN people.

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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
I felt like that at work today.

FAKKIN people.

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That's a real cop car? I thought that was photo-shopped
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
That's a real cop car? I thought that was photo-shopped
no no, its a photoshop, but i feel like that at work sometimes.

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Premature lockup? What would cause that? There are plenty of cars out there with 4 POTS all the way around. I talked to the brake tech and there are no problems as long as the piston bore sizes are all the same which they are at 1.38". There should be no brake bias or any other issues that I know of.
I couldn't think of one good reason why anyone would want to have brakes with the same sized pistons front AND back. Beacause if you do that, you don't get a well balanced brake system. Most likely you will have rear-biased brakes. Unless... your rear brake rotors are way smaller then front ones, which isn't really the case with maxima. I'm really curious to see how this idea works out.
 
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Originally Posted by JoesRedMax
OK so I just got off the phone with Wilwood as well. Xoomer your brother's calipers are not an issue because the 6 POT have staggered size pistons that are 1.62" x 1.12" x 1.12". He said that the 1.38" are too small for the size of our car which I guessed weighed around 3500 lbs. So Kam the 1.62" are the way to go it seems. Mine are being mailed tomorrow. Thanks for the foresight, I just wish it came a few weeks earlier before I painted them. Anyway I sure Brian will be able to sell them.
Piston size is related to weigh / size of car? This kind of reasoning seems to be a little strange.. 5.5th/6th gens have single piston brake caliper with 2.25" bore which translates into 3.976 sq inches area of said piston. So... 4 pot caliper with 4 x 1.38" pistons will have a total of 5.983 sq inches of area. How is that not enough? I mean, sure, it will work, but.. Besides, those 6 pot calipers that are used in g35/z willwood bbk, with 1.62x1.12x1.12 pistons, they will give you about 8.06 sq in, but 4 pot with 1.62" bore are 8.245! Does not seem to be right.
 
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One more thing about Fastbrakes... IF they are using real wilwood rotors in their kits.. Those 13.6" rotors! Man, that's almost, like, 14! Guess what... wilwood does not offer 13.6 rotors. It's actually 13.06" (wich is still good, no doubt). It's just not what they say it is. Of course, if it's not wilwood rotors that they sell, then don't mind what I just said.
 
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They look sweet, whats the rim look like?
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very nice.

now, next investment needs to be a camera.
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Originally Posted by irish44j
very nice.

now, next investment needs to be a camera.
i <3 you! ahaha what type would u say to go w/ if u were spending AROUND 500??
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Kam Yuor ride is sick man... im going to get my lip painted this week... we will look pretttttttttttttttttttttty close .... obvioulsly w/ me being 2nd behind you
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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
i <3 you! ahaha what type would u say to go w/ if u were spending AROUND 500??
um.... I <3 you too?

you're a donating member...go ask about cameras in OT where you can get a good answer.
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Originally Posted by L.M.L.
One more thing about Fastbrakes... IF they are using real wilwood rotors in their kits.. Those 13.6" rotors! Man, that's almost, like, 14! Guess what... wilwood does not offer 13.6 rotors. It's actually 13.06" (wich is still good, no doubt). It's just not what they say it is. Of course, if it's not wilwood rotors that they sell, then don't mind what I just said.
They are not wilwood rotors.

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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
Kam Yuor ride is sick man... im going to get my lip painted this week... we will look pretttttttttttttttttttttty close .... obvioulsly w/ me being 2nd behind you
Cant wait to see your ride when shes done up too.

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an update. I ordered the maxima kit from fastbrakes. What shows up via fedex? No other than THESE red calipers (the ones he had painted and then returned)

Got a call from fastbrakes the next day telling me that those are the wrong ones and were sent erroneously. They're overnighting the (black) 1.62 bore - the "updated kit" to me.

Kind of funny that I got the calipers that you painted
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OT: Kam, Ive seen these pics dozens of times...




Never noticed the plate...

Fits the pic nicely.


Edit: why plate here and not others?
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OT: Kam, Ive seen these pics dozens of times...




Never noticed the plate...

Fits the pic nicely.


Edit: why plate here and not others?
Those are the pics i sent to my insurance broker when a truck tire smashed my front end. I only posted them to show the damage to my car after a truck tire. plate had to be there for insurance.

But that got resolved and I got a new lip and grill out of it.

On autox days, we take our plates off, in case our car ends up on the front page of some magazine or newspaper and your insurance guy goes WTF!!

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